Which civil war's outcome do you think would have affected the world more: Chinese or Spanish civil war?
That’s interesting. Tell me how a Republican victory versus a Nationalist victory would have impacted the Chinese Civil War or even the European War?The Spanish Civil War is a butterfly nest and was a warm up for the Second World War. Change the outcome of that and you will alter the biggest war on human history and everything after.
The European war, after France Hitler would have to tackle Spain instead of Britain. That's a would be a waste of resources and buy Britain time.That’s interesting. Tell me how a Republican victory versus a Nationalist victory would have impacted the Chinese Civil War or even the European War?
Why? A Republican Spain would be as divided and weak as Nationalist Spain. The Spaniards wan’t no part of the war.The European war, after France Hitler would have to tackle Spain instead of Britain.
Agreed, so why would the Germans do it? They can still trade with Spain.That's a would be a waste of resources and buy Britain time.
Agreed that Barbarossa would happen but it would be with similar forces-except for the Spanish Blue division.Bobarosa would still happen because of the Nazis were talking about. But it would be delayed or have fewer resources , not a recipe for success.
Probably no change to German defeat. So no change in Pacific.A quicker German defeat would mean more resources directed at Japan.
The Nationalists would advance against a depleted Japan and be welcomed by the liberated population.
Same as OTL for the Soviets and Communist Chinese-and the Nationalists will still lose through their own mistakes regardless of the results of the SCW.The Soviets would advance deeply into northern China. Mao would be a popular local leader in an area under Stalin's control. He might be in a little trouble.
Why? A Republican Spain would be as divided and weak as Nationalist Spain. The Spaniards wan’t no part of the war.
Agreed, so why would the Germans do it? They can still trade with Spain.
Agreed that Barbarossa would happen but it would be with similar forces-except for the Spanish Blue division.
Probably no change to German defeat. So no change in Pacific.
Same as OTL for the Soviets and Communist Chinese-and the Nationalists will still lose through their own mistakes regardless of the results of the SCW.
So why weren't Panzers rolling over the Pyrenees on 24 October 1940 when Franco refused to enter the war? Hitler was vengeful but he could also be pragmatic. A neutral Spain that was able to trade with Germany under any regime was better for Germany than an occupied Spain or a Spain that joined the Axis.Hitler would want payback, he didn't take defeat well had a vengeful streak. Going after Spain is totally in character for Hitler
Think about the German effort in aiding the Nationalists where all of it has gone to waste with the Republican Victory.So why weren't Panzers rolling over the Pyrenees on 24 October 1940 when Franco refused to enter the war? Hitler was vengeful but he could also be pragmatic. A neutral Spain that was able to trade with Germany under any regime was better for Germany than an occupied Spain or a Spain that joined the Axis.
Hitler would want payback, he didn't take defeat well had a vengeful streak. Going after Spain is totally in character for Hitler
Think the Chinese Civil War as it in 1941 became part of World War II.Which civil war's outcome do you think would have affected the world more: Chinese or Spanish civil war?
The Chinese Civil War started in the 1920s which means, by your logic, the CCW would be the most important.The Spainish war will cause butterflies in the Chinese war thereby making it more important.
Since the Spanish civil war was first it is most important, if it was Chinese first then that would be more important.
A different Spanish civil war can cause any change in China that could happen independently
Any event that precedes another will influence it.
I agree. My badThe Chinese Civil War started in the 1920s which means, by your logic, the CCW would be the most important.
Despite the cliches a Republican victory/no civil war doesn't immediately leads to Communist Spain.Whar happens to Red Spain.
This, everything that happened in Spain is several decades old and long gone and overThe outcome of the Chinese Civil War still affects the world to this day