Cesare Borgia: A Restored Rome Timeline
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Look god damn it I was up at 10:30 trying to do thisLooks like the quote on the top is once again accredited to Cesare
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It is just hints that Cesare is not as dead as people think, got a Arthurian legend to it now.
Yeah... Exactly! That's... That's what I meant.
So this is just my prediction
The extent of the Borgian lands at the point which they are recognized by all the old Roman Empire will not be equal to the size of the old. It has to be bigger or smaller. The HRE means that without it not everyone thinks you Emperor, but with it you add nonRoman lands.
The extent of the Borgian lands at the point which they are recognized by all the old Roman Empire will not be equal to the size of the old. It has to be bigger or smaller. The HRE means that without it not everyone thinks you Emperor, but with it you add nonRoman lands.
Well yeah, they already possess non-roman Territory across the Danube. But the HRE would be an issue with the whole Roman reconquista thing.
Your Latin seems to be off.
A better translation would therefore be:
Undae Dei
Nova Carthago (even if "Carthago Nova" was more common) is correct but very weird, as Marcus' Spanish comrades might point out:
The pretty important city of Cartagena in south-western Spain derives its name from Carthago Nova.
Wave is not the most common translation of "fluctus" and the Italian word for wave (onda) is derived from Latin "unda", which would make it all the more appropiate for "unda" to be used by an Italian ITTL.
A better translation would therefore be:
Undae Dei
Besides the oddity of naming the very region the whole continent got its name from for "Nova Africanus", it also translates to "New African" and the grammar is wrong (nova is female, africanus male). New Africa translated to "Nova Africa"/"Africa Nova"
Nova Carthago (even if "Carthago Nova" was more common) is correct but very weird, as Marcus' Spanish comrades might point out:
The pretty important city of Cartagena in south-western Spain derives its name from Carthago Nova.
Thank you. Undae Dei. A colony of Nova Carthago could be established, or simply rename Tunis to New Carthage. Thank you very much!
Edit: Errors were corrected.
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I just had a read of the last two updates... Holy shit man you're getting good!!
tfw you realise you missed a lot of Casere Borgia updates and now you feel underwhelmed by your own TL and its shitty update rate.
tfw you realise you missed a lot of Casere Borgia updates and now you feel underwhelmed by your own TL and its shitty update rate.
I just had a read of the last two updates... Holy shit man you're getting good!!
tfw you realise you missed a lot of Casere Borgia updates and now you feel underwhelmed by your own TL and its shitty update rate.
I worry that I'm overdoing it. I am worried that I'm gonna burn myself out. And yeah, there's now 45 of the buggars. Plus, the TW images help a lot. Have fun catching up!
Cesare Borgia: A Restored Rome Timeline
Cesare Borgia: A Restored Rome Timeline
Cesare Borgia Part 46: The Triumphant Tribune
‘It was a complete success! No one will think to invade us after the events of Tunisia. They either respect or fear our might.' Marcus Borgia-Palaiologos, 1526, talking to Eleanor about Tunisia.
Marcus, after a surprisingly quick and brutal conquest, returned home.
The news spread quickly, with Charles sending him a personal letter of congratulations, as well as some jewels from the Moroccan coast, a symbol of his success.
Soon Italian merchants began preparing for the crossing, and with government aid began the plans of reconstruction and improvements of ‘New Carthage’, with a new trading hall, new and improved harbour, military fortifications based around the triple cannons used to take the city, and a new cathedral for all to see.
By July, he had returned to Ravenna, first doing a grand ‘Triumph’, with small amounts of Tunisians and Romans marching around the city with horses of white and food for all (Marcus had refused to keep the Tunisians in chains, and instead had a small amount who were eager to prove their new loyalty be dressed up and act as doughty warriors, but still defeated by the might of Rome).
After this, he moved across the Marcus road, with some of it still in construction, and arrived back at Ravenna.
Many had gathered to visit as Marcus’s escorts travelled through the now widened streets of Ravenna, onto the grand street towards the CoG. The sun was bright as he rode back to the High District, the sun blinding his eyes.
Eleanor rushed to greet him as he came off his horse, herself slowing down before impact.
‘Marcus! I need to know everything that just happened. Come on, let’s get inside’
‘Wait a minute let me get my equipment off-’ He complained as she dragged him up the steps and into the palace. Marcus looked back in anguish ‘Guards!’ He yelled, ‘Put the supplies in the armoury and the horses in the stables, I’ll be back in a se-’ The door slammed shut behind him as they rushed off.
They both sat on the bed and talked about the experience, the siege, the blockade, the Spanish fleet. Eleanor, while still not masterful at the art of war, was still at least interested for his sake as he continued about the invasion of the city proper.
‘So… you were a complete success?’ She raised her eyebrow and grinned, ‘With no losses or issues at all? That’s a first!’ She laughed and fell back on the bed.
‘It was a complete success! No one will think to invade us after the events of Tunisia. They either respect or fear our might’
‘You know, I kinda like the idea of our might’ she raised herself up to a sitting position, tensing her biceps. ‘Still… are you sure? We seem to be attacked by all except my brother.’
Marcus smiled at her ‘Don’t worry. This is all we need to focus on now.’ He gestured to the people outside in the city, and more broadly to the countryside. ‘And of course…’ he then waved his hand towards her.
She giggled slightly. ‘You know what? I’ll enjoy this… focusing.’
Marcus grinned, and he turned towards the palace windows and closed the blinds behind him.
Byzantine Painting Preserved at Ravenna:
Hope everyone enjoyed! This one was rushed as I had to have some sort of aftermath of the events in Tunisia. Plus a bit of Marcus and Eleanor stuff to tie you guys over.
Thanks for reading!
-Josh
Cesare Borgia Part 46: The Triumphant Tribune
‘It was a complete success! No one will think to invade us after the events of Tunisia. They either respect or fear our might.' Marcus Borgia-Palaiologos, 1526, talking to Eleanor about Tunisia.
Marcus, after a surprisingly quick and brutal conquest, returned home.
The news spread quickly, with Charles sending him a personal letter of congratulations, as well as some jewels from the Moroccan coast, a symbol of his success.
Soon Italian merchants began preparing for the crossing, and with government aid began the plans of reconstruction and improvements of ‘New Carthage’, with a new trading hall, new and improved harbour, military fortifications based around the triple cannons used to take the city, and a new cathedral for all to see.
By July, he had returned to Ravenna, first doing a grand ‘Triumph’, with small amounts of Tunisians and Romans marching around the city with horses of white and food for all (Marcus had refused to keep the Tunisians in chains, and instead had a small amount who were eager to prove their new loyalty be dressed up and act as doughty warriors, but still defeated by the might of Rome).
After this, he moved across the Marcus road, with some of it still in construction, and arrived back at Ravenna.
Many had gathered to visit as Marcus’s escorts travelled through the now widened streets of Ravenna, onto the grand street towards the CoG. The sun was bright as he rode back to the High District, the sun blinding his eyes.
Eleanor rushed to greet him as he came off his horse, herself slowing down before impact.
‘Marcus! I need to know everything that just happened. Come on, let’s get inside’
‘Wait a minute let me get my equipment off-’ He complained as she dragged him up the steps and into the palace. Marcus looked back in anguish ‘Guards!’ He yelled, ‘Put the supplies in the armoury and the horses in the stables, I’ll be back in a se-’ The door slammed shut behind him as they rushed off.
They both sat on the bed and talked about the experience, the siege, the blockade, the Spanish fleet. Eleanor, while still not masterful at the art of war, was still at least interested for his sake as he continued about the invasion of the city proper.
‘So… you were a complete success?’ She raised her eyebrow and grinned, ‘With no losses or issues at all? That’s a first!’ She laughed and fell back on the bed.
‘It was a complete success! No one will think to invade us after the events of Tunisia. They either respect or fear our might’
‘You know, I kinda like the idea of our might’ she raised herself up to a sitting position, tensing her biceps. ‘Still… are you sure? We seem to be attacked by all except my brother.’
Marcus smiled at her ‘Don’t worry. This is all we need to focus on now.’ He gestured to the people outside in the city, and more broadly to the countryside. ‘And of course…’ he then waved his hand towards her.
She giggled slightly. ‘You know what? I’ll enjoy this… focusing.’
Marcus grinned, and he turned towards the palace windows and closed the blinds behind him.
Byzantine Painting Preserved at Ravenna:
Hope everyone enjoyed! This one was rushed as I had to have some sort of aftermath of the events in Tunisia. Plus a bit of Marcus and Eleanor stuff to tie you guys over.
Thanks for reading!
-Josh
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"Why, that's positively Byzanting of you!"
what you say to a true Greek hero in EUIV when the Purple Phoenix has risen.
EDIT: I got ninja'd on pointing out an error here. Gosh darn it. Thank goodness I updated before I posted...
what you say to a true Greek hero in EUIV when the Purple Phoenix has risen.
EDIT: I got ninja'd on pointing out an error here. Gosh darn it. Thank goodness I updated before I posted...
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Ok, fixed. I literally posted the update, put the threadmark on, then shut my PC down. So I had 0 time to check for errors.
Cesare Borgia: A Restored Rome Timeline
Cesare Borgia: A Restored Rome Timeline
Cesare Borgia Part 47: The Troubles of Africa
'We are the soldiers of God! May we push you infidels back into the sea!' Muhammad IV Hafsid, former ruler of Tunisia, leader of some of the Berber bands.
With a sudden jolt in Mediterranean trading affairs as the Berber pirates had been partially crushed in Tunisia led to a rapid growth in finance, as investments were seen as a far safer due to the decrease in piracy. Thus, the new trading areas of Naples, Taranto, the Aegean and of course Ravanna flourished. Venice, while still weak, benefited from this boost, and had managed to improve itself somewhat from its disorder in the Battle of Venice.
However, while the conquest of Tunisia was indeed powerful and decisive, it failed to silence the largely Muslim population. Only 2% had truly remained loyal to the Christian faith from the days of Rome, and even further they were divided amongst the separate schisms of the East, West and Coptics.
Not long after half of the armies of Rome had departed, much of the Berbers launched into revolts in the interior. The city of Constantine, the city of Marcus’s son, had been sacked by horsemen, disappearing into the night as the small garrison was massacred. They were launched with blinding speed, with increased suspicion that they were being backed by a foreign state.
Marcus, upon hearing of the sack of Constantine, immediately returned his troops, and began to launch campaigns into the heartland of the Sahara, supplied by the port cities, to defeat these horsemen. It would prove to be costly. Many Berber scholars, such as Leo Africanus, an Arab Berber diplomat, author and geographer who had sent time mapping the Nile River and the Maghreb. He had then converted to Catholic Christianity, and been working in the Academy of Leonardo in Ravenna, or Venice, Milan or Genoa. Many other Berber scholars soon followed suit in conversion and migration.
Soon however, men like Leo Africanus moved to New Carthage (or Tunis, as many refused to call it such), and from there moved to Italy. There, they began to inscribe old Muslim texts and knowledge known for decades hidden in the temples of Tunisia’s port cities. Marcus would need to decide on whether to return to Tunis to put down the rebellion.
Marcus lowered the note on his hand as he walked onto the balcony, resting his elbows on the marble railings. He contemplated returning to Tunis, to put down these rebellions. Nico’s notice from the rebellion still hung in the air. It would be easier… but…
He continued to stare off his balcony, watching the evening sun set over his glorious city.
Soon, Eleanor found where he was and walked up from the palace shadows behind and put her arms on the banister.
‘Hey’ she turned to look at him and weakly smiled, saying, ‘You know I’m OK if you wish to go back to Africa. It’s no big deal, really. I know there are Imperial duties to take care of. I have my own local priorities too Marcus.’
‘Well… it would certainly bring the revolt down faster. And no doubt help to gain us some added stability in our realm, which I have been enjoying quite frankly.’
She elbowed his arm, and responded, ‘Then do it! No one is stopping you. Expand our empire for me will you?’ She kissed him on the cheek, and returned inside.’
He continued to ponder this, as the sun continued to set on the nightlife of Ravenna. He then turned around, and wandered inside. Marcus had made his choice.
The sun rose two days later, over the glorious Centre of Government, as the cavalry escort assembled out in the courtyard.
Marcus walked out in his armour, his red and purple cloak billowing as the light winds picked up. He would return to his greatest conquest. He lept on his horse, and the men galloped off to Rome, to be transported to New Carthage.
Eleanor smiled, lightly putting her hands on the window as he smiled at her before departing. She then turned around, looked at her schedule and rushed to the gardens. She had meetings of merchants, civilians and politicians to attend to.
Pictures of the Battles of Batna and El Kef:
Berber Cavalry on the Gallop:
Roman Infantry Regiments crossing the Sahara:
Roman Cavalry sent to hunt down Berbers:
Map of the Western Mediterranean in 1526:
New Green: Berber controlled regions
Hope everyone enjoyed! The main focus was on Africa, and how you can’t just crush a people of different ethnicity and religion, then expect them to fall back in line due to their weak military.
Thanks for reading!
-Josh
Cesare Borgia Part 47: The Troubles of Africa
'We are the soldiers of God! May we push you infidels back into the sea!' Muhammad IV Hafsid, former ruler of Tunisia, leader of some of the Berber bands.
With a sudden jolt in Mediterranean trading affairs as the Berber pirates had been partially crushed in Tunisia led to a rapid growth in finance, as investments were seen as a far safer due to the decrease in piracy. Thus, the new trading areas of Naples, Taranto, the Aegean and of course Ravanna flourished. Venice, while still weak, benefited from this boost, and had managed to improve itself somewhat from its disorder in the Battle of Venice.
However, while the conquest of Tunisia was indeed powerful and decisive, it failed to silence the largely Muslim population. Only 2% had truly remained loyal to the Christian faith from the days of Rome, and even further they were divided amongst the separate schisms of the East, West and Coptics.
Not long after half of the armies of Rome had departed, much of the Berbers launched into revolts in the interior. The city of Constantine, the city of Marcus’s son, had been sacked by horsemen, disappearing into the night as the small garrison was massacred. They were launched with blinding speed, with increased suspicion that they were being backed by a foreign state.
Marcus, upon hearing of the sack of Constantine, immediately returned his troops, and began to launch campaigns into the heartland of the Sahara, supplied by the port cities, to defeat these horsemen. It would prove to be costly. Many Berber scholars, such as Leo Africanus, an Arab Berber diplomat, author and geographer who had sent time mapping the Nile River and the Maghreb. He had then converted to Catholic Christianity, and been working in the Academy of Leonardo in Ravenna, or Venice, Milan or Genoa. Many other Berber scholars soon followed suit in conversion and migration.
Soon however, men like Leo Africanus moved to New Carthage (or Tunis, as many refused to call it such), and from there moved to Italy. There, they began to inscribe old Muslim texts and knowledge known for decades hidden in the temples of Tunisia’s port cities. Marcus would need to decide on whether to return to Tunis to put down the rebellion.
Marcus lowered the note on his hand as he walked onto the balcony, resting his elbows on the marble railings. He contemplated returning to Tunis, to put down these rebellions. Nico’s notice from the rebellion still hung in the air. It would be easier… but…
He continued to stare off his balcony, watching the evening sun set over his glorious city.
Soon, Eleanor found where he was and walked up from the palace shadows behind and put her arms on the banister.
‘Hey’ she turned to look at him and weakly smiled, saying, ‘You know I’m OK if you wish to go back to Africa. It’s no big deal, really. I know there are Imperial duties to take care of. I have my own local priorities too Marcus.’
‘Well… it would certainly bring the revolt down faster. And no doubt help to gain us some added stability in our realm, which I have been enjoying quite frankly.’
She elbowed his arm, and responded, ‘Then do it! No one is stopping you. Expand our empire for me will you?’ She kissed him on the cheek, and returned inside.’
He continued to ponder this, as the sun continued to set on the nightlife of Ravenna. He then turned around, and wandered inside. Marcus had made his choice.
The sun rose two days later, over the glorious Centre of Government, as the cavalry escort assembled out in the courtyard.
Marcus walked out in his armour, his red and purple cloak billowing as the light winds picked up. He would return to his greatest conquest. He lept on his horse, and the men galloped off to Rome, to be transported to New Carthage.
Eleanor smiled, lightly putting her hands on the window as he smiled at her before departing. She then turned around, looked at her schedule and rushed to the gardens. She had meetings of merchants, civilians and politicians to attend to.
Pictures of the Battles of Batna and El Kef:
Berber Cavalry on the Gallop:
Roman Infantry Regiments crossing the Sahara:
Roman Cavalry sent to hunt down Berbers:
Map of the Western Mediterranean in 1526:
New Green: Berber controlled regions
Hope everyone enjoyed! The main focus was on Africa, and how you can’t just crush a people of different ethnicity and religion, then expect them to fall back in line due to their weak military.
Thanks for reading!
-Josh
Borgias really need those National Unrest and Core-Creation cost modifiers...