What if Kim is killed in a coup? With evidence to show that he is indeed dead would that stave off the nukes?
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I suspect so. All in all, I think that China will try their damnedest to get Kim removed before Dubya can launch the nukes, in hopes of some concessions regarding the fate of North Korea
I think from reading the ch, china wouldn’t allow a reunification of korea
What if it’s Putin who removes Kim? As a sort reversal of DOR (in that instead of the DPRK invading the Russian Far East, it’s Russia that invades the DPRK from the far east).
"From Kmart to let us go"
Well that song certainly is a period piece in more ways that one.
God-tier writing. That's what it is.
Hey, at least Japan won't be alone anymore. I guess.
Who knew that someone unrelated to the perpetrators of TTL 9/11, Islam and the Middle East has turned into main antagonist of BVTAOE for breaching the moral event horizon. Many thought Saddam would end up as such but nope, Jong-il genuinely went in to instigate a wannabe apocalypse all due to opportunism and being convinced of his own cult of personality as the truth.
Jong-il will go down in history as Far-left's worst leader alongside Pol Pot and Macias Nguema (if not the cruelest per number 1 for contaminating Pyongyang and imperiling North Koreans with it), whereas Hezbollah and Zarqawi would be remembered the exact way OTL Muslims view ISIS.
I guarantee you, the former's overall acts will turn surviving North Koreans into fiercest Anti-Communists the World has ever seen,making South Koreans' own look meek by comparisson. They'll denounce Socialism day and night and declare that their insane misery and suffering and why South Koreans refuse to regard them as equals is on Communism as a whole, and Jong-il and Jucheism in particular.
I wonder if Bashar would get more radical after watching Zarqawi executing Saddam. As the Iraqi Civil War is unfolding, he could take the opportunity to join the fight against JTJ so as to show that Jihadism deserves no place in the both Arab and Islamic World, to do his father Hafez better.
On this note, OTL ex-Saddamist loyalists have joined ISIS for fighting common enemies whilst being tied with Sunni faith, who then became ISIS' strategists and tactitians ->https://theintercept.com/2015/06/03/isis-forces-exbaathist-saddam-loyalists/. ITTL, as Jihadists themselves have executed Saddam, I assume half of Saddamists who hadn't followed Ibrahim Abd al-Sattar's call for capitulation would proclaim that Saddam's main mistake was that he wasn't a "proper Muslim",and that Ba'athism can coinside with Jihad based on Al-Douri's Faith Campaign, leading them to fight with JTJ in hopes of later backstabbing them for a restored Ba'athist Iraq.
That'd unironically be heroic. Even if the border between Russia and North Korea is tiny, Putin could order his forces plus Spetsnaz to end the Kims once and for all.
That would indeed bring some positive notice for him. But IIRC generally him had yet pretty good reputation anyway.
But Kim is indeed going to be on same list as Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. Damn, he just is not mistreatening his people but too ensuring that his people will surely suffer and is making Pyongyang effectively ghost city and enforcing Bush do something what wasn't done since WW2.
Pyongyang probably will end same way as Berlin on AANW. Chemicals, anthrax and yet lot of radiation. That city is not going to be safe even for cochroaches in many decades.
They just were unfortunate to be on suitable age.
But there would be other famous Youtube stars.
I hear people talk about either China or Russia having Kim assassinated, but do either of them have agents in place to do so? Because by now Kim has truly solidified his grip on power, and I don't think he'll put himself in a position where he thinks he may be killed.
Because they'd be drafted in such a story and give hints as to how culture will develop differently, much like how various manga were brought up in Death of Russia.
I gotta say, I was pretty astonished at Saddam's fate under the hands of Al-Zarqawi, fantastic writing from Sorairo like always.
And despite the tiny DPRK-Russia border, Russia could simply conduct amphibious landings in Korea like how they did against Japanese-controlled Korea in WWII, only that this time the Russian army is repeating history against Kim, instead of Japan.
I also wonder how much popular Brian Reynolds Myers' takes that North Korea's ideology is a repackaged version of Japanese Showa-era Fascism would be ITTL, probably much more, since leftists worldwide would want to completely disown the Kims' North Korea at all costs.
This already happened in The Death of Russia, and ITTL Jang Song-thaek's coup plot was discovered and he was killed, so I do not think that Sorairo will repeat this scenario, a coup against Kim would already have happened after all that occurred even after Jang’s execution.
Good idea indeed! I never seen this be used in a timeline, but I doubt that Russia would be able to occupy almost all of North Korea before China would also step in, so a joint Chinese-Russian occupation of the DPRK seems like the inevitability in a scenario like this.
And despite the tiny DPRK-Russia border, Russia could simply conduct amphibious landings in Korea like how they did against Japanese-controlled Korea in WWII, only that this time the Russian army is repeating history against Kim, instead of Japan.
I also wonder how much popular Brian Reynolds Myers' takes that North Korea's ideology is a repackaged version of Japanese Showa-era Fascism would be ITTL, probably much more, since leftists worldwide would want to completely disown the Kims' North Korea at all costs.
There's all kinds of ways to ensure their loyalty. From food, to hostages, to indoctrination, to being convinced that they'll all die anyways regardless of what they do.
Would Bush really resort to nukes?! That's a really huge decision to make. I assumed he'd resort to chemical weapons.
I don't think an assassination attempt would be very successful but I do think that China or Russia would be in a position to intervene militarily and rush to capture key personnel and positions.
North Korean forces are pretty "occupied" at the moment dealing with the counter invasion and defending the Kim regime which could leave the borders with China and Russia weak.
China might prefer to have a buffer state in the Korean Peninsula even if it's a rump state that they have to govern with a close eye.
The only WMDs the US has are nukes, again owing to the indiscriminate nature of chemical and biological weapons.
Yeah but still, that's a huge risk. And for the record the US technically still had chemical weapons stockpile at the time.