An Examination of Extra-Universal Systems of Government
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Oh, I got the Patton reference, I just didn't know why Jontron had anything to do with the Pope, unless he was supposed to actually be Jontron(which would be amazing)
I've been playing around with a couple ideas in my head, but only have time to write one before my next round of tests. Its between a democratic-theocracy successor state to the US that actually manages to combine the two without going full Iran (in theory, at least) and a noble republic US where Hamilton got everything he wanted and then some at the constitutional convention. Any preferences or suggestions?
For the Hamilton wins, you may want to look at Dominion of Southern America for some ideas. Not everything for Hamilton, but seems somewhat toward him...
The general gist is that there's a limited nuclear war in the vein of the Great Bitter Lake entry that causes a relatively mild global meltdown(no nuclear winter or eradication of civilization, but enough to break up all the major countries and economic blocs) that leads to a series of incredibly determined "never again" movements across the globe that attempt to find the reason for why things fell apart and ensure it never arises again. The one that takes hold in most of the US is a new Great Awakening that holds that a lack of conscience and morals led to the decision to launch the nukes, as a truly moral nation would never use such weapons save in absolute last resort, if at all. Said movement rebuilds the government mostly as it was, but with the addition of a third house whose members are apportioned and elected based off of religious demographics. There's limits on how many can be non-Christian, since this is still a Christian theocracy, but the new house is more to ensure that the government doesn't go crazy and back murderous dictatorships or throw nukes around to get the upper hand on other power blocs rather than impose mainstream Christian morality on the nation Prohibition-style(in theory, anyway). I basically just looked at all the various "Christian States of Americas" out there and said "What if this didn't suck?"
An idea for a theocracy: a surviving Anabaptist north German theodictatorship centered on Münster. Think a Millenniarian North Korea, which practices Orwellian historical revisionism whenever the apocalypse doesn’t arrive. The head of state is legally God, who personally speaks to the king of this “new Zion” (no relationship to Judaism or the Jewish people). Communal property ownership, which is de facto state property ownership, collective farms, and other practices that we associate with communism.
Idea: The Technology Movement were able to successfully take over the United States after Federal, socialist and Fascist forces bled each other dry in a Second American Civil War. Eventually expanding across the Americas and finding themselves in a three way cold war with an Imperialistic Anglo-French block and a Berian Soviet Union.
So is New Sparta (still hate the state lines) the most powerful EEUSG put to a map thus far?
Nah. The Pope is. He’s one dude but he lifts and he’s Jesus’ best friend.
I misread this and thought that it meant that whoever ruled was legally God instead of God having the same position as Mary in the Corsica entry. While this is a great idea, I kinda like my misread better, if only for the utter absurdity. Someone please lay claim to this before I re-start my "which one do I focus on" internal debate.
Yeeaaaaah. Its cool and all, but there's not really much left to do with it. I'd rather write something I understand, and Mormonism isn't that. Though since I've now pigeonholed myself into forcing this new US government to attempt the Sisyphean task of actually giving set definitions to the various denominations of American Protestantism, I guess I can't really use the "I write what I know" defense anymore.
You know I actually never even seen this timeline/prompt that actually focused on one of these. They only really exist so they can fill the void on the map really. More of a background event then anything thats actually been done. But it is such a common background event it’s become a cliche.
Try checking out the Catherverse by Chipperback. Its actually kinda similar to my project(post-US successor states) except with no apocalypse. The POD is the anti-FDR coup succeeding and splintering the country in the 30s. The Mormon Republic of Utah is very much in the background, but it and its figures do get some screentime.
Interesting. I think Anabaptist Münster has potential for ISOTs placing them somewhere else. But I guess that an Anabaptist theocracy has almost no chances to survive in the Holy Roman Empire.
Apparently various crazy religious things happened in the "kingdom" of Münster during the siege.
Not on its own, but a more chaotic Reformation could allow Anabaptism to successfully seize control of a region.
In LoRaG, you could get the Ottomans to expand deep into Austria during the Twenty Years' War if Maria Hapsburg had been killed off by marnicha or blue-sleep.
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