So what happened to the muslim world in this tl?
Surely the muslims would have wanted to avenge this? Wait does bzyantine now rule hedjaz?Rome sacked Mecca
Maybe, but it actually wouldn't be the first time Mecca has been sacked, though usually by of Islamic states. Also as just demonstrated Rhomania just handily took on the strongest Muslim powers in the east and walked away with a draw while it was distracted by an even bigger war in the west.Surely the muslims would have wanted to avenge this?
When did the muslims all of suddan not become a match for byzantine?It is part of the reason that Arab Muslims have been such a thorn and Rhomania's has decided they have had enough.
Wait does bzyantine now rule hedjaz?
When did the muslims all of suddan not become a match for byzantine?
When did the muslims all of suddan not become a match for byzantine?
There are only two major Muslim realms at this point the Marinids of North and West Africa and the Ottomans in Persia, Mesopotamia, Central Asia and western India, as opposed to OTL's three of the Ottomans, Persians, and Mughals, along with a few minor realms, such as the Idwaits and the Omani. The Marinids were at war with Spain to protect Andalusia, who had rebelled in favor of Spanish takeover pretty much, while the Omani are semi-allied to Rhomania.When did the Muslims all of sudden not become a match for byzantine?
It still doesn't change the fact they don't seem to be a match for byzantine as they sacked mecca. When the sauds did it they destroyed there state in retaliation. They lost the levant and egypt and allowed the holy sites to be sacked thats they are not strong.Interestingly this may ensure that the Ottomans and Marinids
It still doesn't change the fact they don't seem to be a match for byzantine as they sacked mecca. When the sauds did it they destroyed there state in retaliation. They lost the levant and egypt and allowed the holy sites to be sacked thats they are not strong.
Sorry but do you have a point? You're making assertions that don't mean anything for the period of time this is in and don't seem to be listening to information users are providing you. Yes Mecca was sacked, yes the Muslim world isn't as strong as it was IOTL, no they didn't just sit around when the Black Stone was stolen there was a major jihad about it and Rhomania suffered horribly, no it isn't back in Mecca it went to the Marinids in Morocco because the Empress in Constantinople didn't want the Ottomans to be seen as Caliph, it has been a long time since then and borders are currently being pushed back to pre-Mecca sacking days but not without significant difficulty.It still doesn't change the fact they don't seem to be a match for byzantine as they sacked mecca. When the sauds did it they destroyed there state in retaliation. They lost the levant and egypt and allowed the holy sites to be sacked thats they are not strong.
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Sorry yeah looking over what i posted got weird. Sorry for wasting everyone here time, just wanted to know what the muslim world was like in this tl. I was reading too much into the messages (thought they were definite answers). Sorry again didn't mean to offend anyone just literally wanted to know what the muslim world looked like.snip
Eh it’s fine. You’re good.Sorry yeah looking over what i posted got weird. Sorry for wasting everyone here time, just wanted to know what the muslim world was like in this tl. I was reading too much into the messages (thought they were definite answers). Sorry again didn't mean to offend anyone just literally wanted to know what the muslim world looked like.