...almost certainly
...was operated/owned
A Battle class - yes, quite possibly a Mikado with a Merchant Navy boiler? Were there Maunsell Pacifics as well
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...almost certainly
...was operated/owned
A Battle class - yes, quite possibly a Mikado with a Merchant Navy boiler? Were there Maunsell Pacifics as well
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A Battle class - yes, quite possibly a Mikado with a Merchant Navy boiler? Were there Maunsell Pacifics as well
The Maunsell proposed freight 4-8-0 for the Dover Coal Trains might have been interesting
Would they (either Pacifics or Mikados and the Mikado looked even stranger than the Pacific!) be known as Spamcans ITTL? I know that SPAM was invented in 1937 but would it have reached the UK in 1940? (or at least in such quantities for it to be used as a knickname?).
Perhaps ITTL he has at least fitted three standard sets of Walshaerts (as per BR rebuild) instead of the oil leaking contraption he used OTL. I quite like the design of the casing (although apparently the fitters who repaired the engines would disagree vehemently).
Perhaps ITTL he has at least fitted three standard sets of Walshaerts (as per BR rebuild) instead of the oil leaking contraption he used OTL. I quite like the design of the casing (although apparently the fitters who repaired the engines would disagree vehemently).
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The Maunsell proposed freight 4-8-0 for the Dover Coal Trains might have been interesting
Nice find Iain! Boiler does look a bit stretched though. Presumably from that alternative liveries website? I was tempted to do a GA drawing, but I don't have any drawings of Bullied locos, I mainly do alternative BR standards
Fair point about spam, though it's really too good a nickname not to use
Is Python (or at least, one of their most famous songs) going to be butterflied?
This is superb, Tom.
The New Party, Spartakist Germany, Old Men in France, Young Men in London, there's all sorts of interesting things going on here. And then there's what can only be described as the infrastructure and train porn. Top stuff.
The New Party, Spartakist Germany, Old Men in France, Young Men in London, there's all sorts of interesting things going on here. And then there's what can only be described as the infrastructure and train porn. Top stuff.
You wanted to join the Thousand Mumbies singing.
This is a particularly flattering comment. Thank you very much!
Thanks to everyone who's commented so far, I actually wasn't sure about this one but published it anyway – I think Paul is right that it's a shade too exposition-heavy at times, and I could have explored things a bit differently in hindsight. Perhaps Fuller is on the train in the first half of the story, watching the New Britain flash by on his journey to Dover. Something like that. Still, the whole thing happening on the White Cliffs is something I liked.
On TRAAAIIIINS, blue Mikado Bulleids is exactly what's in mind, eagle-eyed readers may have picked up on the 'almost perfectly straight' track. I hadn't actually seen that mockup Iain posted, but it's essentially dead-on (barring the number/name plate, which would of course be a more AH design, probably a tad more art deco as Mosley seems to be into that sort of thing). BR (or something like it, perhaps with another name) has indeed come about pre-, rather than post-War. I leave further speculation in your capable gricer minds.
As for why Fuller wasn't just made a Peer, well, if he was made a Peer, I wouldn't be able to drop in the fact that by-elections aren't necessary anymore
That's really all it is. A bit cheeky, but there's also the wider implication that the Commons is becoming just as technocratic as the Peers – it's about service to the cabinet, not your constituency, certainly in Fuller's case.There is definitely more fun to be had with Spart Germany, there's really a whole TL waiting to be written about a Moscow-Berlin 'red axis'. One thing I wanted to explore here was how far the reader could be brought along to root for a quasi-fascist, or at least rather undemocratic, 'dynamic' British government versus a vaguely red German one. The French sit in the middle, a bit stuffy and trying to modernise, but too many Petains and not enough de Gaulles (what he is up to, you'll have to imagine – I suspect he was one of the Four Colonels). I probably won't explore this world again, not in vignette form at any rate. Or maybe I will if I can't resist it. I quite like each vignette building a new world from scratch, though.
Anyhoo, thanks again for the feedback. Hope you're all having a tremendous Easter.
It's not explicitly stated to be a dictatorship, is it? She is dead by the time the war breaks out, though, and Nastier Types (though not one single man) are implied to have taken control, perhaps via collective rule. TBH that's all from Fuller's perspective so you could just read it as 'the Sparts genuinely do want to liberate the working classes of Europe, but to the technofascists in London they are Obviously Evil And Up To No Good'.
Sulemain
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Huh, fair enough.
I think the horrors of Stalinism and Nazism and so forth have made the somewhat typical levels of authoritarianism in pre-war Europe less noticeable.
South of Denmark and East of the Rhine, their was only one democracy left in Europe pre-WW1.
...probably a tad more art deco as Mosley seems to be into that sort of thing).
As for why Fuller wasn't just made a Peer, well, if he was made a Peer, I wouldn't be able to drop in the fact that by-elections aren't necessary anymore
Yes - I think the UK would be very art deco/Futurist in appearance. Clive James commented on one of Mosley's TV appearances (possibly the one below, though I've vague memories of one in the mid-'70s - Parkinson? Can't find it, whatever it was) that the man himself seemed art deco.
Famous Frost interview with him here.
Starts off quite reasonable: but at ten minutes the conversation turns to "The Jews", and things go south very rapidly.
Read Skidelsky's biography many years ago: IIRC it stated that the violence at Mosley meetings predated the BUF, and was started at New Party meetings, by the left.
Good point on by-elections: Fuller on the stump for votes, and doing constituency surgeries, is simply something I cannot imagine.
Japhy
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First off, Amazingly fun, it really showcases the way of Vignettes can show AH in unique ways. And I mean a New Party state, and its differences from the BUF is quite fun to imagine, subtle differences but that can make all the fun in the world. It was also interesting to see Blackshirts operating in a different context too. *Takes notes furiously for that TLIAW's endgame*
As others have noted Red Germany offers a *literal shitton* of AH potentialities, and we should absolutely do more with it, be it with 1918, 1923, or 1933 PODs
As The Red Noted it was a bit exposition heavy, but I imagine it would be fairly easy to fix if you'd want to, even while remaining on the White Cliffs.
I can't comment on the Trainporn but that seemed like it would be fun too.
As others have noted Red Germany offers a *literal shitton* of AH potentialities, and we should absolutely do more with it, be it with 1918, 1923, or 1933 PODs
As The Red Noted it was a bit exposition heavy, but I imagine it would be fairly easy to fix if you'd want to, even while remaining on the White Cliffs.
I can't comment on the Trainporn but that seemed like it would be fun too.
Thanks, Japhy. Your feedback always means a great deal. As above, the New Party is intensely fascinating to me (is there anything geekier than a halfway house between two -punks?), and if EdT hadn't basically explored almost all of what they'd probably be like with his Mosleyite Labour in AGB, I'd consider a proper TL on 'em. But this will do for now.