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What if Miguel of Portugal survived to his OTL death, and became adult inheriting Castile from his grandmother, Aragon from his grandfather and Portugal from his father? And if he married a surviving Madeleine of Navarre, who would eventually become heiress of her mother’s kingdom as Ferdinand of Aragon had surely hoped?
 
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    Ferdinand II, King of Aragon and Sicily (1452-1516) married Isabella I, Queen of Castile (1451-1510) in 1469
    1. Isabella, Princess of Asturias and Girona (1470-1498), married a) Alfonso, Prince of Portugal (1475-1491) in 1490 and b) Manuel I, King of Portugal (1469-1519) in 1497
      1. b) Miguel da Paz, King of Spain (b. 1498) married Madeleine, Queen of Navarre (b. 1494) in 1512
        1. John III, King of Spain (b.1515) married a) Madeleine of France (1520-1540) in 1536, b) Beatrice of England (b. 1524) in 1541 with issue by both
        2. Isabella of Spain (1517-1544) married Francis III, Duke of Brittany (1518-1539) in 1533 with issue
        3. Catherine of Spain (b.1519) married John II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b.1518) with issue
        4. stillborn son (1522)
        5. Ferdinand (1524-1530)
        6. Beatrice of Spain (b. 1526), twin of Eleanor, married Charles IX, King of France (b. 1528) in 1542 with issue
        7. Eleanor of Spain (b. 1526), twin of Beatrice, married Henry IX, King of England (b. 1422) in 1540 with issue
        8. Alfonso of Spain (b. 1529) married Isabella of Guimarães (b. 1530)
    2. miscarried son (1472)
    3. Juan, Prince of Asturias and Girona (1478-1497) married Margaret of Austria-Burgundy (b.1480) in 1497
      1. stillborn daughter (1497)​
    4. Juana of Aragon (b.1479) married Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (1478-1503) in 1496 with issue
    5. Beatriz of Aragon (1482) twin of Maria, stillborn
    6. Maria of Aragon (1482-1520) married Vladislaus II, King of Hungary and Bohemia (1469-1517) in 1501
      1. Elizabeth of Bohemia and Hungary (b. 1503) married Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1503) with issue
      2. John of Bohemia and Hungary (1505-1510)
      3. Stephen VI, King of Bohemia and Hungary (1507-1526) married Mary of Savoy (b. 1505) without issue
      4. Hedwig of Bohemia and Hungary (1508-1510)
      5. Casimir of Bohemia and Hungary (1511-1514)
    7. Catalina of Aragon (1485-1518) married a) Arthur Tudor, Prince of Wales (1486-1502) in 1501 and b) Henry VIII, King of England (b.1491) in 1505
      1. b) miscarriage (1508)
      2. b) stillborn son (1509)
      3. b) Henry, Prince of Wales (1511)
      4. b) Isabella (1512)
      5. b) stillborn daughter (1514)
      6. b) Mary (1516-1520)
      7. b) miscarried daughter (1518)

    Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (1459-1519) marry a) Mary, Duchess of Burgundy (1457-1482) in 1477 b) Anne of Brittany (1477-1514) in 1490 (annulled 1492) c) Bianca Maria Sforza (1472-1510) in 1493
    1. a) Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (1478-1503), married Joanna of Aragon (b.1479) in 1496
      1. Eleanor of Austria (b.1498) married Antoine, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1489) in 1512
        1. Nicholas (1514-1520)
        2. miscarriage (1515)
        3. Charles (1516-1520)
        4. Eleanor, Duchess of Lorraine (b.1518) married Ernest I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1520) with issue
        5. Francis (1520)
        6. Mary (1522-1535)
      2. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (1500-1531) married a) Mary Tudor (1496-1523) in 1515 b) Isabella of Portugal (1509-1530) in 1524
        1. a) Philip, Count of Charolais (1518-1520)
        2. a) John of Austria (1520)
        3. a) stillborn daughter (1521)
        4. a) Joanna (1523-1528)
        5. b) Mary (1526)
        6. b) Isabella (1528-1530)
        7. b) Maximilian (1530)
      3. Isabella of Austria (b.1501) married Christian II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b.1481-1521) in 1514
        1. John II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b.1518) married Catherine of Spain (b.1519) with issue
        2. Philip Ferdinand (1419)
        3. Maximilian (1419)
        4. Dorothea (b.1520)
        5. Christina (b.1521) married Francis II, Duke of Milan (b.1518) with issue
      4. Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1503) married Elizabeth of Bohemia and Hungary (b.1503) in 1515
        1. Ernest I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1520) married Eleanor, Duchess of Lorraine (b.1518) with issue
        2. Maximilian I, King of Hungary and Poland (b.1521) married Elizabeth of Poland (b. 1522) with issue
        3. Elizabeth (b. 1524)
        4. Joanna (1525-1532)
        5. Charles (b. 1527), Grandmaster of Teutonic Order
        6. Eleanor (b. 1530)
        7. Frederick (1530-1539)
        8. Philip (1535)
        9. Anna (1538-1546)
        10. Margaret (1540)
        11. Helena (b. 1542)
        12. Rudolf (1545-1554)
        13. Magdalena (b. 1547)
    2. a) Margaret of Austria-Burgundy (b. 1480) married a) John, Prince of Asturias and Girona (1478-1497) in 1497 b) Philibert II, Duke of Savoy (b. 1480) in 1501
      1. a) stillborn daughter (1498)
      2. b) Margaret of Savoy (b. 1502) married Sigismund I, King of Poland (b.1467) in 1516
        1. Hedwig of Poland (1519)
        2. stillborn son (1520)
        3. Elizabeth of Poland (b. 1522) married Maximilian I, King of Poland and Hungary (b. 1521) with issue
        4. Sigismund of Poland (1523-1538) died unmarried
        5. Anna of Poland (1525-1526)
        6. Sofia of Poland (b. 1528)
        7. miscarriage (1530)
      3. b) stillborn son (1503)
      4. b) Mary of Savoy (b. 1505) married a) Stephen VI, King of Bohemia and Hungary (1507-1526) in 1515 (consummated 1522) without issue b) Francis I, King of France (b. 1494) in 1526 with issue
      5. b) Maximilian I, Duke of Savoy (b. 1507) married Beatrice of Portugal (b. 1507) in 1522 with issue
      6. b) Charles of Savoy (b. 1509)
    3. a) Francis of Austria (1481)

    Manuel I, King of Portugal (1469-1521) married a) Isabella, Princess of Asturias and Girona (1470-1498) in 1497, b) Joanna of Aragon-Naples (b. 1479) in 1501
    1. a) Miguel da Paz, King of Spain (b. 1498) married Madeleine, Queen of Navarre (b. 1494) in 1512 with issue
    2. b) Joanna of Portugal (b. 1503) married Henry VIII, King of England (b. 1491) in 1519 with issue
      1. Elizabeth of England (b. 1520) married James V, King of Scotland (b. 1512) in 1536 with issue
      2. Henry IX, King of England (b. 1522) married Eleanor of Spain (b.1526) in 1540 with issue
      3. Joanna of England (b. 1524) married William, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1514) in 1539 with issue
      4. Beatrice of England (b. 1527) married John III, King of Spain (b. 1514) in 1541 with issue
      5. Edward, Duke of York (b. 1531) married Anne Percy (b. 1531) with issue
    3. b) Ferdinand, Duke of Viseu (b. 1505) married Isabella of Braganza, Duchess of Guimarães (b. 1514) with issue
    4. b) Beatrice of Portugal (b. 1507) married Maximilian I, Duke of Savoy (b. 1507) in 1522 with issue
    5. b) Isabella of Portugal (b. 1508) married Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500) in 1524 with issue
    6. b) John, Duke of Beja (b. 1510) married Guiomar Coutinho (b. 1510) with issue
    7. b) Louis of Portugal, Duke of Guarda (1512-1519)
    8. b) Alfonso of Portugal (b. 1513), cardinal
    9. b) Henry of Portugal (1515-1516)
     
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    NOTES:
    Miguel and Madeleine match would be surely in Ferdinand’s plans if both had survived. ATL Madeleine d’Albret and her youngest sister Isabella (who married her OTL husband) were the only child of Catherine of Foix still alive at her death (and Madeleine also was destined to an early grave) so the ATL Spain on which John III ruled included the whole Iberian peninsula plus Naples, Sicily and Sardinia and had all the colonies of both Spain and Portugal.

    Philip of Burgundy choose the weddings for Eleanor of Austria who, without future Henry VIII available, was engaged to the heir of Lorraine and Charles, who was engaged to Mary Tudor (the elder) as OTL, while the weddings of the younger two were arranged by Maximilian, who married off also his granddaughters by Margaret and Philibert (Charles V arranged Mary’s second wedding)
    Charles later remarried to his cousin Isabella of Portugal and was pretty unlucky with both as he had no surviving kids and died months after his second wife, likely consumed more by the guilt (as both Mary and Isabella died in childbirth and he had loved both of them) than the illness.
    While his wedding to Catherine was more frustrating than his OTL one, the fact who Austria/Burgundy and Spain were NOT destined to be unite prevented Henry VIII to broke his sister‘s engagement to Charles II of Burgundy after his father-in-law’s betrayal (as he had no direct tie to the Habsburgs). Catherine’s death after a miscarriage was a blessing for Henry, whose successive wedding to another Spanish princess (Joanna of Portugal) was much happier with four of their five kids surviving (and among them an heir and a spare with good health).
    Henry VIII’s heir married a Spanish cousin (when his third sister become the second wife of John III of Spain), while his younger brother, well, scandalised court eloping with the eldest daughter of the Earl of Northumberland (by his second wife) in a wedding much more scandalous than the contrasted one of her parents (and both are remembered among the great love stories of that age). The fact who lady Anne was niece of one of the tree long time mistresses of King Henry VIII (who were all blondes) only added to the scandal but was the reason for which they were pardoned rather quickly (like the King’s great friend Charles Brandon had been pardoned by the King after seducing and secretly marring his widowed sister once sent in Scotland as ambassador). James V of Scotland married Henry VIII’s eldest daughter while his full brother Alexander married their relative Madeleine of Albany (they had an half-brother and three half-sisters by Margaret’s second wedding).
    Eleanor of Austria had an horrible 1520 as all her kids caught an illness who killed the three boys (the youngest only few months old) and to which only her daughter survived. She became deeply attacked to her daughter after this, specially after another illness killed her only other child years later.
    The Francis II of Milan who married Christina of Denmark (who ATL was born 7 months after her father’s death) is NOT her OTL husband, but his nephew (Maximilian I of Milan married his cousin Bona and they had five children: Francesco, Isabella, Beatrice, Bianca Maria and Ludovico (who inherited his mother’s Duchy of Bari) while his brother died unmarried and childless).
    Maximilian and his sons Ernest and Maximilian were able (and lucky as all three in the end married heiresses) rulers who were able to create and consolidate their Kingdoms, reducing a lot the power of the nobility in all their lands
    France well will be pretty screwed as Francis I’s eldest son died leaving only a daughter as heiress of Brittany and his younger sons by Claude died childless, so the French crown was inherited by his eldest son by Mary of Savoy (Francis himself will arrange the wedding of his last Dauphin to another Spanish infanta, for securing his borders and hoping to have early a grandson of a good age to be married to his infant granddaughter, the next Duchess of Brittany, but Brittany will fall outside the hands of the King of France).

    Joanna and Margaret will have much happier lives than their OTL ones, Margaret in Savoy with her beloved Philibert and children, while Joanna, Regent of Burgundy for her son will be know as the grieving Duchess as she would never dismiss the mourning for her beloved Philip (as after his early death she will remember only their love and not his cruelty).
     
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    Very nice, I love the amount of changes that you have made here... Poor Catherine of Aragon and Eleanor of Austria though... I guess their fates here are a little better than OTL..
     

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    Awkwardvulture said:
    Very nice, I love the amount of changes that you have made here... Poor Catherine of Aragon and Eleanor of Austria though... I guess their fates here are a little better than OTL..
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    Yes, they are still better fates than their OTL ones, as Catherine will die childless but still loved by Henry while Eleanor’s life, while sad, is a much better than OTL: she would be always loved in Burgundy and Lorraine, never away from her home, and she will be able to stay always near to her beloved daughter (as Burgundy will be Ernest’s main set from his wedding to Eleanor of Lorraine until his father’s death) and will be also the one to take over the regency in Burgundy between Charles’ death and Ernest being able to rule in his own right).

    You have seen what I have done with many prominent characters of the Tudor age in the notes?
     
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    “When Suffolk stole the Queen of France” a fun, but not correct title, as the woman involved was NEVER Queen of France, is a book who narrated the “great betrayal“ who Henry VIII of England received from his best friend (and well known seducer) Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk, when the King sent his best friend as ambassador in Scotland, with the job to persuade his recently widowed sister, Margaret, Dowager Queen of Scotland to leave her two sons (the 2 years old James V, King of Scotland and the newborn Alexander, Duke of Ross) and the regency to Scotland for remarrying to the old King of France, who needed desperately a male heir. The plan of using Margaret for sealing a triple alliance between England, France and Scotland received a lukewarm support by John, Duke of Albany, cousin of the late King, who while pro-French and interested in replacing Margaret as Regent, believed cruel forcing the separation between Margaret and her sons. Margaret had no intention to doing it: she was a rich widow and free, and she had no intention to help her brother to get more benefits from the death of an husband who she had loved and whose death (in battle) was caused by Henry’s men. She had been happy with James, who was more than 15 years older than her, but had no intention to let her younger brother sell her to the old King of France (who was also more than 25 years older than her and in bad health). Historian and experts still today debated on who was really the seducer between Charles Brandon and Margaret Tudor, but what is secure is who three months after his arrival in Scotland the Duke of Suffolk married in secret the Dowager Queen of Scotland, provoking the ire of the King of England and of Cardinal Wolsey (who was the main negotiator of the treaty with France) and totally incensed Queen Catherine of Aragon, giving origin to a feud between the two sisters-in-law who would continue until Catherine’s death.
    Still Charles and Margaret’s wedding was a great love story, passionate and tempestuous as they had both strong characters and conjugal fidelity was know to Suffolk as it had been to the late James IV. Still Charles and Margaret lived a long and happy life together between England and Scotland, with a lot of children: he had been already married twice and had two daughters, she had two surviving sons by the King of Scotland and together they would have four surviving children: Margaret (b. 1515), Elizabeth (b. 1517), Eleanor (b. 1519) and Henry (b. 1520).
     
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    isabella said:
    “When Suffolk stole the Queen of France” a fun, but not correct title, as the woman involved was NEVER Queen of France, is a book who narrated the “great betrayal“ who Henry VIII of England received from his best friend (and well known seducer) Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk,
    when the King sent his best friend as ambassador in Scotland, with the job to persuade his recently widowed sister, Margaret, Dowager Queen of Scotland to leave her two sons (the 4 years old James V, King of Scotland and the newborn Alexander, Duke of Ross) and the regency to Scotland for remarrying to the old King of France, who needed desperately a male heir. The plan of using Margaret for sealing a triple alliance between England, France and Scotland received a lukewarm support by John, Duke of Albany, cousin of the later King, who while pro-French and interested in replacing Margaret as Regent, believed cruel forcing the separation between Margaret and her sons. Margaret had no intention to doing it: she was a rich widow and free, and she had no intention to help her brother to get more benefits from the death of an husband who she had lived and whose death (in battle) was caused by Henry’s men. She had been happy with James, who was more than 15 years older than her, but had no intention to let her younger brother sell her to the old King of France (who was also more than 25 years older than her and in bad health). Historian and experts still today debated on who was really the seducer between Charles Brandon and Margaret Tudor, but what is secure is who three months afterhis arrival in Scotland the Duke of Suffolk married in secret the Dowager Queen of Scotland, provoking the ire of the King of England and of Cardinal Wolsey (who was the main negotiator of the treaty with France) and totally incensed Queen Catherine of Aragon, giving origin to a feud between the two sisters-in-law who would continue until Catherine’s death.
    Still Charles and Margaret’s wedding was a great love story, passionate and tempestuous as they had both strong characters and conjugal fidelity was know to Suffolk as it had been to the late James IV. Still Charles and Margaret lived a long and happy life together between England and Scotland, with a lot of children: he had been already married twice and had two daughters, she had two surviving sons by the King of Scotland and together they would have four surviving children: Margaret (b. 1515), Frances (b. 1517), Eleanor (b. 1519) and Henry (b. 1520).
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