henry iv

  1. What if Thomas de Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, dethroned Richard II?

    So this Mowbray character is quite interesting to me. He just basically shuffles off screen in Shakespeare's play and in real life while Bolingbroke basically goes back to England in like two weeks because his father almost immediately falls ill after he is exiled... really self-fulfilling...
  2. Henry IV dead at Shrewsbury, 1403: What's next?

    I have questions about the outcomes for three Houses in the aftermath of a victory for Percy in the Battle of Shrewsbury: Percy: This House rebelled against Henry IV for a laundry list of grievances, among them land promised to them in Cumberland being given to a rival (House Neville?) and...
  3. PolishMagnet

    What would Western Christendom look like if the Gregorian Reforms failed?

    Let's say Pope Gregory VII dies shortly after taking office. HRE Emperor Henry IV is able to seize the day and wins the investiture controversy, and the Gregorian Reforms never happen. Notable effects: -Conciliarism reigns? Pope is not supreme and can even be opposed by Ecumenical Councils...
  4. Euphemios

    WI: Richard II survives longer in captivity

    Historically, after Henry IV's accession, a group of malcontents would revolt in what would be called the Epiphany Rising, intending to rethrone Richard, and killing Henry, King and Prince both, if not for their abject failure to locate either. Richard would die some weeks later, reportedly...
  5. RedKing

    WI: Edward of Lancaster (son of Henry IV and Mary de Bohun) lives?

    Edward of Lancaster (b. 1382), was a son of Henry IV (then the Earl of Derby IIRC), and Mary de Bohun, who died as a child. But what if he had lived? How would things change? Would Edward of Lancaster be exiled alongside his Father? If not, would Richard II still confiscate the Lancastrian lands...
  6. RedKing

    WI: Henry IV married Marie of Berry

    So for those who don’t know, during his exile in 1399, there were negotiations for Henry Bolingbroke (later Henry IV) to marry the widowed Marie of Berry (cousin of Charles VI). However negotiations were abandoned when English diplomats sent by Richard II demanded the talks cease. But what if...
  7. RedKing

    WI: The Epiphany Rising succeeds, who becomes King afterwards?

    I am currently reading Ian Mortimer's biography on Henry IV, and in it he mentions that had the Epiphany Rising succeeded (i.e. all male-line Lancastrians die :(), it is likely that Edmund of York or Edmund Mortimer would have been installed on the English throne, rather than Richard II. So what...
  8. WI: fith son of Henry IV

    Inspired by discission about kids of Henry IV and Joan of Navarre. In this scenario Bolingbroke has one more son, but not with Joan. Instead his second daughter Philippa, OTL Queen of Denmark, Norway and Sweden is born as boy (Edward? William?) So what are effects? Eric of Pomerania would need...
  9. The Professor

    Henry IV has children with Joan of Navarre

    So what are the repercussions if Henry IV of England had sons and/or daughters with his second wife Joan of Navarre, dowager Duchess of Brittany?
  10. Rebels against Henry IV win, split England

    This is inspired by no one lesser than Shakespeare: In a description of Henry IV Part 1 I read what they had planned: Glendower gets all the land along the Severn, Mortimer gets the south of England up to the river Trent, and "Hotspur" Percy gets the north of England. So, if they won - how'd...
  11. GauchoBadger

    WI: Emperor Henry IV dies at Canossa in 1077

    What if Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV of the Salian Dynasty had contracted a fever in the midst of his penitence ritual at Canossa in 1077 AD, which he was doing in order to forfeit his excommunication by Pope Gregory VII, and perished? What effects does this have on... The Investiture...
  12. Mapping the events to unite the Holy Roman Empire

    Hi all, I the aim of this discussion is to map out of all the events in the Holy Roman Empire's history where it could have united and analyse why the plan or event did not materialize in the empire uniting and through this which ones had the best chance by comparing and contrasting them with...
  13. The 'Universal ruler'

    Hi all, I would like someone give some clarity on the text extract from Wikipedia because it does not have any references based on what it is saying. Which sadly does not give it much legitimacy. I have highlighted the crucial aspects. "Emperor Henry was the most powerful monarch in the...
  14. Jeanne d'Albert dies in childbirth

    Jeanne d'Albert, daughter of Henry II, king of Navarre dies few hours after giving birth to her son Henry (OTL Henry IV of France) who still is healthly child in this TL . So the newborn will be heir to the throne of Navarre since his birth, and king of Navarre after his grandfather dies in may...
  15. The Professor

    Henry Bolingbroke dies in exile

    If Henry Bolingbroke dies before or on return to England and thus never imprisons and succeeds Richard II what can we expect? I'll assume Richard still dies childless.
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