You know, up until this post, you were the only person I knew with actual experience of Nigeria who had not made some reference to frauds or scams. I had been finding it quite refreshing.
Is it really a thing? I'd been assuming it was just a stereotype coming out of those email scams.
Congrats on your Turtledove victory and making AH.com finally appreciate the beauty of Africa instead of what European empire will claim the Congo.
I was hoping to eventually do the same with my own goofy TL, but still need to do a lot of research.
Congratulations on the win, Jonathan. You deserve it. Thank you for Malê Rising and all your other fantastic work.
My West Indian family claims descent (with mimimal evidence that I'm aware of) from Jaja of Opobo. My mother didn't think much of the family stories since he is not much remembered in the Caribbean but she mentioned this to a friend who belongs to a minor Nigerian royal house (I don't know which one) and he has not failed to call her queen in every interaction since. Clearly Jaja's fame has been better preserved in the land of his birth than in that of his exile.
And thanks to both of you for reading. Othyrsyde, if you have any questions about Africa or about where to take an African plot in your story (which I now need to read), don't hesitate to ask.
I'm sure Tall wouldn't appreciate Abacar fomenting dissent in his 'pure' empire, though of course Usman wouldn't say that what he's doing.
The Toucouleur Sultan comes off as incredibly naïve, or perhaps just incredibly arrogant, in this update, but I have a sneaking suspecision he's actually even more shrewd than either his Malê or British counterpart - joining the war would obviously bring the French hammer down on him, but openly consorting with the Niger successor states would do the same. Allowing for an embassy to be opened, unofficial trade with Ilorin, these things leave options open for Aguibou; after all he didn't say no, and "sometimes the truth that isn’t told is the most important."
I find it interesting that the word Nigeria here causes people to think of an ancient Egyptian civilization. Was that the case in OTL?
Intrigue in Timbuktu... I like it. I was wondering what was happening in the Toucouleur Empire. I'm so glad it's still around!
Congratulations on the well-deserved Turtledove Johnathan- I knew you were going to sneak it eventually but I wasn't expecting it to be quite so close!
I think it's brilliant that something focusing on Africa, a really neglected area in alternative history, gets the award; I know I've learned a hell of a lot from this thread, and really need to start afresh from the beginning so I can comment meaningfully.
I've finally caught up with this fantastic timeline. What a stupendously fascinating read! I was wondering if you could say something about the intellectual currents in Bosnia. Sufism and tolerance have deep roots in the region, including one of the oldest extant documents for religious freedom, Mehmet's ferman on the freedom of the Bosnian Franciscans. I could see the reformist movements gaining much popularity among the Sarajevo cognoscenti. Furthermore, how are the internecine relations in the region? OTL had the growth of the Great Serb/Croat mentalities and the unfortunately-unsuccessful effort for a unified national identity under the Austro-Hungarian aegis; is the pan-Ottomanism a more successful unifier in TTL?
Now when are we going to start seeing slashfic for Smuts and Abacar?
(For the record, I am happy if we don't!)
1. I wonder how Django Unchained (have you seen that movie, BTW) will look in TTL?
2. When's the next update of this excellent timeline coming?
Thanks and good to see you here! I'll admit that I haven't thought through the urban intellectual culture in Bosnia. I'd thought of Bosnia and Albania in terms of the relations between peasants and absentee landlords, which led to rebellion in the later 19th century both in OTL and TTL, but you're certainly correct that Sarajevo will be another world.
I agree that Islamic reformism would do well there - the Constitutionalist Party's paternalistic liberalism would be widespread, and the Sufi roots would also make Abacarism or Belloism attractive to many. I could also see Sarajevo as a transfer point somewhat like the Levant or the Central Asian borderlands where Islamic and Christian liberalism meet and synthesize. Maybe Abay Qunanbaiuli's notions of inter-religious relations (see post 963) could help to mediate tensions between the millets, although pan-Serb and pan-Croat sentiment will also be present and will be encouraged by the Austrians.
Your comment is actually very timely, because Sarajevo is now under siege, cut off from the main Ottoman lines on the Vardar. The next series of BOG vignettes, which should be up in a few days, will contain a scene there - I'll review more of the city's history in the meantime.
Would the TTL Great War popularize the automobile in the same way that OTL Great War did with the airplane?
Things in Europe started good for the FAR and are getting better for the FAR. I'm curious to see the conclusion of the War.
The narratives turns the War into a more 'human' thing - full of good and bad emotions, relationships built and broken, dangers and victories -, and we can easily imagine the events that you describe. They are worthy of the best bookshelves.
If I could be of any help, please feel free to ask! I am always happy to see my hometown pop up in alternate history in a non-Franz-Ferdinandian-context! Sarajevo as a place of synthesis is already the essence of the city, so it would certainly work. I think the Franciscans would be a good group for the propagation of Christian liberalism. Since the ferman, the Franciscans have been seen and acted as the stewards of Bosnian history, irrespective of tribal affiliation. Indeed, many of the historians of the country and propogators of a unified Bosnian identity in the 19th century were fraters.
Can you recommend an easily-available source (preferably online, given that I don't have access to JSTOR or a university library)? And do you know offhand what the fraters' role was during the peasant rebellions? I'm planning to set the next scene among an urban self-defense militia recruited by the city's notables to defend against the siege, and there will be some uneasy bedfellows in it; I wonder if the Franciscans and the Abacarists might be the glue that knits it together.