It's too cool for him.
Literally no one in Russia knew about Oktan before TNO. Unlike Kaminsky, Vlasov, Bunyachenko, Rodz, Smyslovsky.The New Order: Last Days of Europe Thread II
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Literally no one in Russia knew about Oktan before TNO. Unlike Kaminsky, Vlasov, Bunyachenko, Rodz, Smyslovsky.
Yeah, I am just basing Oktan's portrayal off mod, where he clearly LARPs as Nazi (though not quite to the same extent as Vagner) and cares mostly about the riches.
Salazar and Franco were clearly more moderate than "fascists" also they lacked desire to completely reshape society around their views, which is the core tenet of fascism.
Bunya irl is not a well known figure as far as political views are included, so I'd argue devs could write him as any flavor of right wing they want him to be.
I think the line between ideologies of "despotism" and "fascism" is well-defined and that is *totalitarianism* as core tenet of fascism, so desire to reshape society around the ideas of party
Hitler can't be despot, he had clear set system of beliefs which most despots don't have..
Yet Franco purged fascists from government.
Yes, and Roberto Paxton puts him as a authoritarian conservative
Franco had it's own ideology, one that is on TNO even, National Catholicism
And IMHO that suits him the best and current Bunya is IMHO his Russian counterpart.
To say that Franco did not create a totalitarian regime is strange. It may not have been hysterically demonic like the Nazi regime or Mussolini's colorful populism, but all the elements of totalitarianism - secret police, one party, repression, the title of Caudillo, imitation of the Reich and Italy (Roman salute, one nation-party-leader).
When the Axis lost, of course Franco "liberalized" so as not to follow them and enlist the support of the United States. With an Axis victory, will Franco "liberalized"?
About Bunyachenko. He does everything that the fascist leaders in Europe did. Perhaps he does it without "gamer moments". Carefully, systematically, without hysteria, but he is building a state where all power belongs only to him, the economy is subordinate to the state and is aimed at creating a powerful military machine, and the population follows only one goal - "national revival."
Did you play him?
Bunyachenko has absolute power in Russia. In fact, there is not even a strong ruling party.
In the entire game, he does not have any power struggle after he destroys Octane's supporters. Further, he weakens the military elites of the ROA, creating civilian authorities that are completely subordinate to him.
LMAO, Yazov has less power than Bunya. You can compare Bunya with Rodz or Velimir in terms of absolute power.
I think it is his non-demonstrativeness (Bunyachenko does not yell sig heil with foam on his lips) that misleads people. I would say that Bunyachenko is a "smart fascist".
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Matkovsky is a fascist pretending to not be one.
So, basically what franco was irl.
(Ignore the possibility he was a soviet agent irl)
No, he didn't mean that based on his popularity, but instead as someone who truly believed in NaziismIt's too cool for him.
Well, the imitation of Italy was half-assed and Franco did not want to model himself after the Reich. And also secret police, one party and repression might appear in authoritarianisms too. The core element of totalitarianism is desire to reshape society according to ruling party's desires which Franco didn't do, also he didn't implement full corporatism in economy which is why the members of so-called "old Falange" became opposition to his regime.
And he liberalized in canon TNO, that's why he's listed as despot in pie chart, not as fascist.
He lacks the last part with "national revival" and yes, I did play him. And "gamer moments" aren't necessary here, if I had to rewrite Bunya as fascist I'd list him under "Fascist populist" subideology without many "gamer moments".
I'd say that current Bunya is rightly listed as despot and amount of power doesn't matter as much as it is thought to matter. In Paraguay (TNO) you have one guy who literally hears screams of his opponents being cut in half by chainsaws and the other one who builds bootleg welfare state when he's in power.
The second one is fascist, and the first one is not, despite being more reppresive.
I think Matty works as comparison too, though unlike Franco he started out as member of fascist party.
Ah, that's a shame. From the looks of it, it's extremely interesting. I mean, who doesn't want a syndicalist, Fidel Castro?
@Zygmunt Stary so, I write manga and had a sudden realization
A reworked, sane (still evil) Velimir would be a dark prince version of Rurik II of Kemerovo
basically both want russia to return to a certain era, Rurik to the 1200s and Velimir to the 700s, but with modern tech in both cases. Velimir Slavia versus the Rus of Rurik would be basically an anarchronistic clash of two periods of russian history.
A reworked, sane (still evil) Velimir would be a dark prince version of Rurik II of Kemerovo
basically both want russia to return to a certain era, Rurik to the 1200s and Velimir to the 700s, but with modern tech in both cases. Velimir Slavia versus the Rus of Rurik would be basically an anarchronistic clash of two periods of russian history.
Someone who played KR: Man, I wish syndicalist Cuba was real!
Monkeys paw: Curls a finger
And on that vein, Indonesia after the government wins is National Syndicalist. For five minutes before Suharto takes over.