You are thinking of HMS Reliant from Battlecruiser by Douglas Reeman
Actually I think he ripped off Warspite in that book:
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HMS Warspite went around and was scrapped. The story I recall ended with the ship sinking in deep water, so it can't be her.
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Perhaps...
The Loss of the Battleship Sao Paulo
Anyways, I noticed that today was the anniversary of the sinking, so I thought I'd post something based on reality about it. Enjoy- and watch out for those space aliens.
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The Nachi Class could literally be described as Too Much.
As Japan began its silent gearing up for war in 1930, they discarded the WNT limit on cruisers and designed a massive 15000 ton monstrosity of a heavy cruiser more akin to a underarmed battleship but with some advanced feautures including diesel engines (On Tone and Myoko) and multiple AA turrets plus seaplanes.
Fortunately for the US, the Japanese lacked the experience to make it into a reality.
The Nachi would suffer from multiple problems including the handling of the oxygen torpedo system which is attributed to the disappearance of the Myoko.
At Yap, the cruiser squadron of the 4 remaining ships would be met by Admiral Appletons squadron which would destroy all 4.
Yes, it does sound like that, but thinking about it I think it was a US ship just post WWII?
Yeah, she went aground after breaking her tow rope. Supposedly the guys towing her swore she was making a break for open sea.
You're thinking of Oklahoma then, they raised her and started to tow her back to the states but she snapped her cables in a storm and sank.
There were more such incidents as a decommissioned old Dreadnoughts of Brasil: São Paulo was lost simillary while in tow on the way to the breakers.
The Galveston Class of 1928 was the first sign of the US waking up to increasing Japanese aggression and that the Omaha class was a ultimate failure of a cruiser in its intended role.
In response to the 10 strong Agano class and demands for stronger vessels by business interests in Asia, Congress allocated several million for 10 light cruisers.
Three of them were to be armed with 8 inch cannon (Northampton class) but the remaining seven cruisers were built at the discretion of Admiral Morrison to a cheaper 7500 ton design.
While many criticized the design at the time, it is not known that Morrison had received intelligence that Japan was focusing on more light vessels meaning that in a war the US would need similar vessels to counter and so ordered the 7500 tonners for two reasons.
The first was to create a basic design and so build experience for cruiser commanders and builders.
The second was that if there were any issues, then they could be rectified before the war.
Built with multiple double 5 inch Dual Purpose turrets as a 'Destroyer killer' and a 'Aeroplane destroyer', the vessel was designed to protect the battlefleet from lighter units while using its advanced torpedoes to keep heavier enemies at bay allowing for a quick escape.
Finished in late 1929, Galveston and her sisters would finish working up and proceed to test themselves where flaws caused by its cramped design were noted including a failure to reach the designed 33 knot speed.
Admiral Morrison, who had been hoping for a cheap combatant was disappointed but pleased with the noted strengths (The multiple DP cannons were highly praised along with other modern features) and once funding for a new light cruiser group was received in preparation for war, Morrison and the design bureau would expand a modified design to 8500 tons creating the beloved Phoenix Class.
Of the Galvestons, One (Huron) was patrolling the Panama Canal when the Japanese bomb caused earth to replace the water leaving the ship stuck and eventually scrapped due to damage to the hull once it was freed.
Galveston and Troy were among those escorting the Bonin invasion colony fleet and were both sunk by the intercepting Japanese squadron.
However, their efforts would see the survival of the rest of the convoy as the escorting Japanese destroyers were smashed under the onslaught of 5 inch fire allowing the US heavy cruisers to hold off their opposite numbers until the Saratoga's aircraft arrived.
While their demise was expected, two of their sisters (Chester and Denver) had won glory by finding a niche no one had expected.
Both vessels were escorting the carrier group when Japanese seaplane bombers attacked and while Saratoga was damaged, the cruisers furious 5 inch fire had disrupted bomber attacks on Langely and other vessels along with further attacks.
Upon the return of the Bonin invasion fleet to Pearl, the torpedoes were removed and the remaining seven were turned into Anti-Aircraft Cruisers and they were placed with the carrier squadrons.
At Yap, the class would see another loss when Denver was sunk with all hands when struck by four oxygen torpedoes while protecting the USS Serapis.
However, the Saratoga and Lexington's attackers were stopped from accomplishing their strikes by the anti-aircraft fire of the cruisers and carriers.
After the war, the vessels were scrapped almost immediately as a subsection of the Phoenix class (Cleveland) were built to be anti-aircraft cruisers.
While risky to serve on, the cruisers have their fans due to their advanced but workable design that was almost certainly limited by size and the lack of a RADAR system that perhaps could've allowed the Denver to better direct her fire.
So, big 5"/38 fan, I take it!
The Galveston Class of 1928 was the first sign of the US waking up to increasing Japanese aggression and that the Omaha class was a ultimate failure of a cruiser in its intended role.
In response to the 10 strong Agano class and demands for stronger vessels by business interests in Asia, Congress allocated several million for 10 light cruisers.
Three of them were to be armed with 8 inch cannon (Northampton class) but the remaining seven cruisers were built at the discretion of Admiral Morrison to a cheaper 7500 ton design.
While many criticized the design at the time, it is not known that Morrison had received intelligence that Japan was focusing on more light vessels meaning that in a war the US would need similar vessels to counter and so ordered the 7500 tonners for two reasons.
The first was to create a basic design and so build experience for cruiser commanders and builders.
The second was that if there were any issues, then they could be rectified before the war.
Built with multiple double 5 inch Dual Purpose turrets as a 'Destroyer killer' and a 'Aeroplane destroyer', the vessel was designed to protect the battlefleet from lighter units while using its advanced torpedoes to keep heavier enemies at bay allowing for a quick escape.
Finished in late 1929, Galveston and her sisters would finish working up and proceed to test themselves where flaws caused by its cramped design were noted including a failure to reach the designed 33 knot speed.
Admiral Morrison, who had been hoping for a cheap combatant was disappointed but pleased with the noted strengths (The multiple DP cannons were highly praised along with other modern features) and once funding for a new light cruiser group was received in preparation for war, Morrison and the design bureau would expand a modified design to 8500 tons creating the beloved Phoenix Class.
Of the Galvestons, One (Huron) was patrolling the Panama Canal when the Japanese bomb caused earth to replace the water leaving the ship stuck and eventually scrapped due to damage to the hull once it was freed.
Galveston and Troy were among those escorting the Bonin invasion colony fleet and were both sunk by the intercepting Japanese squadron.
However, their efforts would see the survival of the rest of the convoy as the escorting Japanese destroyers were smashed under the onslaught of 5 inch fire allowing the US heavy cruisers to hold off their opposite numbers until the Saratoga's aircraft arrived.
While their demise was expected, two of their sisters (Chester and Denver) had won glory by finding a niche no one had expected.
Both vessels were escorting the carrier group when Japanese seaplane bombers attacked and while Saratoga was damaged, the cruisers furious 5 inch fire had disrupted bomber attacks on Langely and other vessels along with further attacks.
Upon the return of the Bonin invasion fleet to Pearl, the torpedoes were removed and the remaining seven were turned into Anti-Aircraft Cruisers and they were placed with the carrier squadrons.
At Yap, the class would see another loss when Denver was sunk with all hands when struck by four oxygen torpedoes while protecting the USS Serapis.
However, the Saratoga and Lexington's attackers were stopped from accomplishing their strikes by the anti-aircraft fire of the cruisers and carriers.
After the war, the vessels were scrapped almost immediately as a subsection of the Phoenix class (Cleveland) were built to be anti-aircraft cruisers.
While risky to serve on, the cruisers have their fans due to their advanced but workable design that was almost certainly limited by size and the lack of a RADAR system that perhaps could've allowed the Denver to better direct her fire.
I have a question is that a game or what of that image?
The Galveston Class of 1928 was the first sign of the US waking up to increasing Japanese aggression and that the Omaha class was a ultimate failure of a cruiser in its intended role.
In response to the 10 strong Agano class and demands for stronger vessels by business interests in Asia, Congress allocated several million for 10 light cruisers.
Three of them were to be armed with 8 inch cannon (Northampton class) but the remaining seven cruisers were built at the discretion of Admiral Morrison to a cheaper 7500 ton design.
While many criticized the design at the time, it is not known that Morrison had received intelligence that Japan was focusing on more light vessels meaning that in a war the US would need similar vessels to counter and so ordered the 7500 tonners for two reasons.
The first was to create a basic design and so build experience for cruiser commanders and builders.
The second was that if there were any issues, then they could be rectified before the war.
Built with multiple double 5 inch Dual Purpose turrets as a 'Destroyer killer' and a 'Aeroplane destroyer', the vessel was designed to protect the battlefleet from lighter units while using its advanced torpedoes to keep heavier enemies at bay allowing for a quick escape.
Finished in late 1929, Galveston and her sisters would finish working up and proceed to test themselves where flaws caused by its cramped design were noted including a failure to reach the designed 33 knot speed.
Admiral Morrison, who had been hoping for a cheap combatant was disappointed but pleased with the noted strengths (The multiple DP cannons were highly praised along with other modern features) and once funding for a new light cruiser group was received in preparation for war, Morrison and the design bureau would expand a modified design to 8500 tons creating the beloved Phoenix Class.
Of the Galvestons, One (Huron) was patrolling the Panama Canal when the Japanese bomb caused earth to replace the water leaving the ship stuck and eventually scrapped due to damage to the hull once it was freed.
Galveston and Troy were among those escorting the Bonin invasion colony fleet and were both sunk by the intercepting Japanese squadron.
However, their efforts would see the survival of the rest of the convoy as the escorting Japanese destroyers were smashed under the onslaught of 5 inch fire allowing the US heavy cruisers to hold off their opposite numbers until the Saratoga's aircraft arrived.
While their demise was expected, two of their sisters (Chester and Denver) had won glory by finding a niche no one had expected.
Both vessels were escorting the carrier group when Japanese seaplane bombers attacked and while Saratoga was damaged, the cruisers furious 5 inch fire had disrupted bomber attacks on Langely and other vessels along with further attacks.
Upon the return of the Bonin invasion fleet to Pearl, the torpedoes were removed and the remaining seven were turned into Anti-Aircraft Cruisers and they were placed with the carrier squadrons.
At Yap, the class would see another loss when Denver was sunk with all hands when struck by four oxygen torpedoes while protecting the USS Serapis.
However, the Saratoga and Lexington's attackers were stopped from accomplishing their strikes by the anti-aircraft fire of the cruisers and carriers.
After the war, the vessels were scrapped almost immediately as a subsection of the Phoenix class (Cleveland) were built to be anti-aircraft cruisers.
While risky to serve on, the cruisers have their fans due to their advanced but workable design that was almost certainly limited by size and the lack of a RADAR system that perhaps could've allowed the Denver to better direct her fire.
Recently I have heard the K class explained as trying to get a vessel not unlike a modern hunter killer submarine with 1910s technology. This makes a degree of sense as they were supposed to work as part of the fleet much like many modern submarines do today. While not a perfect comparison it makes sense at face value, and the utility of such craft if they had worked would have been easy to grasp.
With that in mind are there any other failed naval tech or ships which came before their time and before the technology to make it viable was available?
With that in mind are there any other failed naval tech or ships which came before their time and before the technology to make it viable was available?