back at you homeboyNot answering the question is very telling...
back at you homeboyNot answering the question is very telling...
back at you homeboy
we're in agreement by jo were in agreementFine, I'll play... the Great Powers stepped in to prevent Serbia from running ruffshot over non-Serbian ethnic groups in the region... because allowing Serbia to seize non-Serbian lands would destabilize the region to a far greater extent than allowing the Albanians statehood... because the Serbians would have little stopping them from committing the same atrocities they claim to have suffered under Ottoman rule... because Austria-Hungary and Italy would never allow it and would inevitably lead to further armed conflict... because Serbia's very existence was a result of the great powers allowing it to exist as an independent state with the treay of Berlin...
I'll patiently wait your reply to my entirely reasonable question...
Well there's the thing, they could have easily fought in it. Austria was actually a pen stroke away from invading Serbia over the matter. If anything the diplomatic process saved Serbia's skin.Why did the Great Powers have any say in the war when they didn't even fight in.
Greece and Serbia aren’t taking Albania without the approval of both countries.
The question becomes- why would Russia risk this when OTL they clearly avoided the risk?
War with who? Austria-Hungary and Italy?So you're saying Serbia and Greece would never push it to the point where it comes to war?
Russians had just completed that on the Circassians in the 1860, and killed a half million of them, expelling the rest to the Ottoman Empirethe only people that did that in this time where the Ottomans to the Armenians
and the rest of the world was still perfectly fine except in Cotton from the United States from slave labor and the British Empire was currently the biggest drug exporter in history yeah let's try to find something in 1890-1913 please the world was a completely different place thenRussians had just completed that on the Circassians in the 1860, and killed a half million of them, expelling the rest to the Ottoman Empire
War with who? Austria-Hungary and Italy?
and the rest of the world was still perfectly fine except in Cotton from the United States from slave labor and the British Empire was currently the biggest drug exporter in history yeah let's try to find something in 1890-1913 please the world was a completely different place then
I dunno - maybe the Russians are just extra sore over the Bosnian affair of the years before, and stupidly confident for some reason. Or they decide the risk of offending Austria and Italy is worth it, to be able to keep *both* Serbia and Bulgaria as happy clients.
Or maybe the Austrians (& maybe Italians) accelerate the crisis by pushing for a showdown with Serbia, and their vehicle for doing so is insisting on some terms that Serbia absolutely cannot accept, for example, there must not only be an Albania, but it must have all of Kosovo. And in turn, the Russians feel that is a step too far so they have to back up the Serbs. The Germans meanwhile feel like they need to 'blank check' the Austrians and Italians, after all, when else could there ever be a crisis again where Austria and Italy are on the same side?
The Russians? Hard to say. The French? Probably.will that be crystal clear to the French and Russians?
What if it isn’t? And the Germans schlieffen through Belgium?
That's not how irredentism works.to be frankly honest Albania should never have existed when Italy demanded it's creation everyone else should have kicked him in the balls and told him to shut up. this would have greatly calm down the tensions in the Balkans for some time if Serbia and Greece were given Albania's land they would have given up their claims over land promised to Bulgaria. no second Balkan war no destabilizing of the Russian control over most of the Balkan States
it's not mention much but also a lot of people living in the Balkans especially East Orthodox consider this an betrayal by the Russian Empire yeah sure you're the Protectors of the East Orthodox Faith you just let a muslim-majority Albania pop into existence after we conquered It.
lol!That's not how irredentism works.
what did I just say to you I want to put Serbia in a position where they can't act crazy and if they do they don't cause a World War they are rogue nation that gets tooken down by a coalition of Nations.None of that excuses your attitude towards the forced subjugation of Albanians for the economic benefit of Serbia.
lol!
what did I just say to you I want to put Serbia in a position where they can't act crazy and if they do they don't cause a World War they are rogue nation that gets tooken down by a coalition of Nations.
Giving Greece and Serbia perennial headaches in Albania might preoccupy them from jumping into other conflicts, but things would be very unpleasant on all sides. Wasn't Montenegro to have partaken in the division of Albania too?
here you are trying to protect the poor minority albanians and now you want the Ottoman Empire to win they would carry out Mass executions of people if they won the Balkan War you don't make any sense and I'm done you're just arguing for the sake of arguing now.If you want to prevent Serbia from causing WW1 then let the Ottomans win the Balkan War. But thats not what the op asked about.