With the might of Europe behind it, Germany eventually won - although it was too weakened to stop the CSA from getting a foothold in Europe after beating National France. My headcanon is that the Cold War era Internationale consists of the Americas, Southeast Asia, North Africa, CNT-FAI, and Japan, while the German alliance is the rest of Europe and Russia.
Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg
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Wow, Mitteleuropa is apparently gone. That's... almost as deep a change as when Wrangel was changed to the Moderate Military Man.
To be clearer (I realized I should have noted it after posting... about half an hour after, so a bit late to smoothly edit it in
The thing about it being deep was for how long Mitteleuropa has been around as the name for the German alliance. I'm pretty sure it was right since Kaiserreich began, and Wrangel only beats it because he went back to All the Russias.
It's called the Reichpakt now, I believe. But while Wrangel becoming a moderate military man was good and faithful to the personality of one of the few decent men in the entire Russian Civil War, this just feels like saying goodbye to an old friend. I would say, though, that changing it to something more universal after the end of WKII makes sense.
OK, but...seriously, what the hell? It's still going to start as Mitteleuropa, right?
Probably not. So far as I can gather the coding needed to rename factions that already exist is much more complicated in HOI4 than in DH.
What I am hoping for is that references to Mitteleuropa are still kept in Germany's focus tree, national spirits and such - basically, make Mitteleuropa the 'British Empire' to the Reichspakt's 'Entente'.
Plus it’s the actual historical name for the concept:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitteleuropa
Why change it?
Maybe because from a geographical POV, Mitteleuropa also includes the Austro-Hungarian Empire. However, at the start of the game, the Hapsburgs aren't part of the german alliance and might not join it.
There's apparently also Discord talk prompted by the leak, although I don't bother with Discord. Too hard to find specific things.
Huh. That slipped under my radar somehow. Don't usually tread outside the kaissrreich Reddit for news and the memes can quickly push down some newsworthy information. Guess it makes sense in a global context, still kinda sad to see Mitteleuropa go.
Well, now two factions have the chance to do something about racism. Honestly I wonder if Long just ends up being horseshoe theory with some of the Totalists. This seems somewhat like Civic Nationalism mixed with State Capitalism.
Also, speaking of horseshoe theory, Natpop Japan's Kodoha path seems a lot like Nationalist Totalism, so Sorelians and Maximists. The Nationalism is obvious, and then their program includes nationalization of the Zaibatsus, which in practice ends up as State Capitalism. It would be interesting to know if Araki IOTL was basically Strasserist like this, because KR makes him seem like it.
Not necessarily, destroying the Klan could just as easily be Long's version of the Night of the Long Knives.