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These are some really big first civilisations.
Note that the expansion here is over hundreds of years. It started out as the dark green dot on the peninsula, expanded and colonized a trade empire in the two lighter green colors, and finally conquered itself an inland empire in the sparsely inhabited north.
 
Bumping with a timeline of established events:

??? BC - An "empire" begins to form in the southwest quarter of the map.
c. 0 AC - Ecological distaster; collapse of the large "empire" in the southwest.
c. 800 AC - History "restarts", new civilizations begin to pick up the pieces
???? - Eku civilization forms in northeast Oremsey (central continent).
2490 AC - The Deurond Empire was formed as a union of city-states around the Vamoir Sea.
2680 AC - Deurond begins to reach its height.
c. 2800 AC - Deurond begins to weaken.
2989 AC - A rival kingdom conquers the Deurond capital and kills the last emperor.
???? - Novgorod-style trade empire forms on the west coast of the southern continent.
3596 AC - "Present day" (could be changed if people object).

If people want to help out, here are some things that could add to this world:
- Map of where agriculture starts (I'll probably work on this)
- Distribution of different resources (e.g. iron, coal, gold, silk, furs, grapes, etc.)
- More civilizations / lore
- Languages
- Human diversity (skin color, epicanthic folds, maybe even different species of human)
- Flora and fauna
- Flags?
- Writing systems
 
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pink - Proto-Rumaic
light green - Proto-Thoros
dark brown - Proto-Ndzuri

Proto-Ndzuri

Phonology

Consonants:

/p t tˡ k q ʔ/ <p t tl k q '>
/b d dˡ g ɢ/ <b d dl g ġ>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdˡ ⁿg ⁿɢ/ <mb nd ndl ng nġ>
/t͡s t͡sˡ t͡ʃ/ <c cl ch>
/d͡z d͡zˡ d͡ʒ/ <dz dzl dzh>
/ⁿd͡z ⁿd͡zˡ ⁿd͡ʒ/ <ndz ndzl ndzh>
/ɸ s sˡ ʃ h/ <f s sl sh h>
/β z zˡ ʒ/ <v z zl zh>
/ⁿβ ⁿz ⁿzˡ ⁿʒ/ <mv nz nzl nzh>
/m n nˡ ŋ/ <m n nl ŋ>
/ɾ l/ <r l>
/j/ <y>

Vowels:

/i ɨ u/ <i ə u>
/a/ <a>

Phonotactics:

C(S)V

C = any consonant
S = semivowel /j/
V = any vowel

Accent:

Lexical pitch accent (high pitch on accented syllable).

Nouns

- hierarchical alignment
- secundative ditransitive alignment
- no cases
- two classes (Animate vs Non-Animate)
- two numbers combined with classes
- possessive suffixes
- demonstrative clitics

[(Class + Number) + Root + Root's extension + Possessor + Demonstrative]

Verbs

- person not affixed
- two aspects (Imperfective, Perfective)
- three tenses (past remote, past proper, non-past)
- tense affixed to pronoun
- two voices (active, causative)
- evidentiality (nonfirsthand, everything other)
- three moods (Indicative, Conditional, Jussive)

Adjectives

- adjectives have the same forms as nouns
- three degrees of comparison

Pronouns

- Class and number affixed
- N-M pronouns

Adpositions

- postpositions

Syntax

- SOV
- Desribed word - Describing word
 
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It's a good start, but I feel like there should be a few smaller families thrown in there (including the Dakipean languages I came up with on page 12), and the borders should be a little more rugged. Other than that, I like that we're seeing more contributions. :)
 
Here is my first draft of where civilization developed, criticism wanted.

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A- it didn't seem very fertile, but I figure it could act like a Mexico-expy
B- reminded me of Egypt, plus I already had plans for a civilization here
C- thinking further ahead, civilization could develop here with influence from somewhere else, a bit like the Sahel
E- maybe the origin of that pre-collapse civilization?
G- probably the wettest cradle; lots of rice grown here
H- maybe?
Other: If we wanted an Andes-expy, there are a few mountain ranges where we could put it. I also remember that agriculture developed independently in New Guinea, but it wasn't enough to create a "civilization", so I left the equator alone.
 
Proto-Aratic ("Welsh" colour on my map)

Phonology

Consonants:

/p t k/ <p t k>
/t͡s t͡ʃ/ <c č>
/f s ʃ x/ <f s š h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/r l/ <r l>
/j w/ <j w>

Vowels:

/i u/ <i u>
/e/ <e>
/a/ <a>

/iː uː/ <ī ū>
/eː/ <ē>
/aː/ <ā>

Phonotactics:

CVC

Accent:

Stress accent on last syllable.

Nouns

- ergative alignment
- indirective ditransitive alignment
- two classes (Animate vs Inanimate; suffixed)
- ten cases (Absolutive, Ergative, Genitive, Dative, Allative, Ablative, Instrumental, Comitative, Essive, Equative)
- three numbers (singular, dual, plural; prefixed)
- possessive prefixes
- prepositional articles (indefinite, definite)

[Article] + [Possessor + Number + Root + Root's extension(s) + Class + Case]

Verbs

- ergative alignment on verbs
- three conjugational persons
- three aspects (Imperfective, Iterative, Perfective)
- three tenses (Past, Present, Future)
- four moods (Indicative, Subjunctive, Optative, Imperative)
- evidentiality (visual vs non-visual)
- causative infixed in root

[Person + Evidentiality + (Root + Causative) + Root's extension(s) + Tense + Aspect + Mood]

Adjectives

- adjectives the same as nouns
- adverbs similar as adjectives, but without class marker

Pronouns

- no class distinction within pronouns
- M-T pronouns

Adpositions

- postpositions

Syntax

- SOV
- Described word - Describing word
 
Good work, Falkanner !

Proto-Ethanaic
(dark green on central continent)

Phonology


Consonants:

/t k q ʔ/ <t k q '>
/tʰ kʰ qʰ/ <th kh qh>
/d g ɢ/ <d g ġ>
/s x χ h/ <s x ḫ h>
/m̻ n̻/ <hm hn>
/mʰ nʰ/ <mh nh>
/m n/ <m n>
/ɹ̻ l/ <hr hl>
/ɹʰ lʰ/ <rh lh>
/ɹ l/ <r l>
/j/ <j>

Vowels:

/i ʉ u/ <i y u>
/e ɵ o/ <e ø o>
/æ/ <æ>
/a/ <a>

/ĩ ʉ̃ ũ/ <iN yN uN>
/ẽ ɵ̃ õ/ <eN øN oN>
/æ̃/ <æN>
/ã/ <aN>

Phonotactics:

CVC

Accent:

Stress accent on second syllable.

Nouns

- nominative-genitive alignment
- tripartite ditransitive alignment
- no gender
- five cases (Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Instrumental, Vocative)
- two numbers (collective, singulative)

[Root + Root's extension(s) + Number + Case]

Verbs

- four aspects (Imperfective, Frequentative, Momentaneous, Perfective)
- three tense (Past, Present, Future)
- four conjugational persons (with obviative)
- four moods (Indicative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Imperative)
- transitivity: intransitive, transitive (unmarked), causative

[Root + Root's extension(s) + Transitivity + Tense + Aspect + Mood + Person]

Adjectives

- special adjectival and adverbial endings
- no degrees of comparison

Pronouns

- M-T pronouns
- Obviative
- Logophoric pronoun

Adpositions

- prepositions

Syntax

- SVO
- Describing word - Described word
 
@Chrzęścimir, are you going to create information about the pink language in the northeast ('Proto-Rumaic')? Because I already have plans for the languages in that region, some of which I have previously mentioned.
 
I'm going to go ahead and post the first couple centuries of Azotse's history. I don't want to get too far without knowing what's happening in other civilizations, but I'd like to get the ball rolling at some point. Instead of making new posts for each part of its history, I'll probably just edit this post.

The Azotse civilization began in the early 10th century AC. Its early history is rather vague, as it lacked a proper writing system, but most historians agree that the city of Othaesa had united many of the city states along the Taahaigo River by 1000 AC. Shortly thereafter, a handful of Fetsa city states downriver broke away and formed their own state, and decades of conflict ensued.

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Here we have information. You need more informations ?
Oh. Sorry, I didn't see that before. I've had some ideas about how the Deuras language I mentioned herefloating in my head, but I've been rather busy lately and so haven't written anything down. I think I could make Deuras a descendant of Proto-Rumaic, there's noticeable similarities between their consonant inventories and noun grammar.
 
Proto-Kwaomah (/kʷɒmɑh/; light brown colour on northern continent)

Phonology

Consonants:

/t kʲ k kʷ ʔ/ <t kj k kw '>
/t͡s t͡ɬ/ <c tl>
/s ɬ xʲ x xʷ h/ <s l xj x xw h>
/m n ŋʲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n gj g gw
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/j/ <j>

Vowels:

/i ɯ u/ <i y u>
/e ɤ o/ <e eo o>
/æ ɑ ɒ/ <ae a ao>

Phonotactics:

CVC

Accent:

Stress accent on last syllable.

Nouns

- hierarchical alignment
- indirective ditransitive alignment
- five classes (Masculine Human, Feminine Human, Animal, Vegetal, Other)
- no number
- no cases
- possessive sufixes
- nominal tense (prefixed)
- demonstrative affixes (Indefinite, Definite distant, Definite proper; cliticized)

[Nominal tense + Root + Root's extension(s) + Class + Possessor + Demonstrative clitic]

Verbs

- nominative-accusative alignment in verbs
- verbal case (Agentive, Patientive, Instrumental, Allative, Ablative, Locative, Causal, Benefactive, Vial)
- three aspects (Progressive, Stative, Habitual)
- two tenses (future vs non-future)
- five moods (Indicative, Subjunctive, Potentional, Desiderative, Imperative)
- evidentiality (visual sensory, non-visual sensory, inferential)
- three conjugational persons with two numbers (singular and plural)

[Verbal case + Aspect + Root + Root's extension + Tense + Mood + Evidentiality + Person]

Adjectives

- adjectives and adverbs with special endings
- analytic three degrees of comparison

Pronouns

- MT pronouns
- logophoric pronoun

Adpositions

- prepositions

Syntax

- SVO
- Describing word - Described word
 
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Proto-Aqamaic (grey colour on northern continent)

Phonology

Consonants:

/t k q/ <t k q>
/ɸ θ̠ ɬ h/ <f s l h>
/β ð̠ ɮ/ <v z ł>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/ʀ̆/ <r>
/j w/ <j w>

Vowels:

/i y u/ <i y u>
/a/ <a>

/iː yː uː/ <ī ȳ ū>
/aː/ <ā>

Phonotactics:

CVN

C= any consonant
V= any vowel
N= any nasal consonant

Accent:

Lexical pitch accent.

Nouns

- nominative-accusative alignment (marked nominative)
- secundative ditransitive alignment
- no gender
- ten cases (Nominative, Accusative, Genitive, Instrumental, Allative, Ablative, Benefactive, Prosecutive, Vialis, Abessive)
- three numbers (singular, dual, plural)
- possessive suffixes
- prepositional demonstrative pronoun

[Demonstrative pronoun] + [Root + Root's extension(s) + Possessor + Number + Case]

Verbs

- nominative-accusative alignment
- two aspects (Imperfective, Perfective)
- five tenses (Past remote, Past proper, Present, Future proper, Future distant)
- three analytical moods (Indicative, Subjunctive, Conditional)
- evidentiality (visual sensory, nonvisual sensory, inferential, reportative)
- three conjugational persons
- four voices (Active, Passive, Reflexive, Reciprocal)
- analytical causative (auxiliary verb), distinct from other voices

[Mood] + [Causative] + [Person + Root + Root's extension(s) + Voice + Tense + Aspect + Evidentiality]

Adjectives

- descriptive verbs in the adjectival role
- adverbs described by special particle before descriptive verb

Pronouns

- neither M-T nor N-M
- logophoric pronoun

Adpositions

- postpositions

Syntax

- SOV
- Describing word - Described word
 
New language families on the map are added.

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Proto-Hmalq'ic (dark pink on western part of central continent)

Phonology

Consonants:

/p t̪ t̺ c k q ʔ/ <p t th c k q '>
/pʼ t̪ʼ t̺ʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <p' t' th' c' k' q'>
/b d̪ d̺ ɟ g ɢ/ <b d dh j g ġ>
/t͡s̪ t͡s̺/ <ts tsh>
/t͡s̪ʼ t͡s̺ʼ/ <ts' tsh'>
/d͡z̪ d͡z̺/ <dz dzh>
/s̪ s̺ ç x χ h/ <s sh ċ x ḥ h>
/m̻ n̪̻ n̺̻ ɲ̻/ <hm hn hnh hṇ>
/m n̪ n̺ ɲ/ <m n nh ṇ>
/mʼ n̪ʼ n̺ʼ ɲʼ/ <m' n' nh' ṇ'>
/l̻ ʎ̻/ <hl hḷ>
/l ʎ/ <l ḷ>
/lʼ ʎʼ/ <l' ḷ'>
/j w/ <y w>
/jʼ wʼ/ <y' w'>

Vowels:

/i u/ <i u>
/e o/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

/iː uː/ <ī ū>
/eː oː/ <ē ō>
/aː/ <ā>

Phonotactics:

CVCC

Accent:


Stress accent on penultimate syllable.

Structure

- triconsonantal roots

Nouns


- nominative-accusative alignment (marked accusative)
- indirective ditransitive alignment
- no gender
- three cases (Nominative, Accusative, Dative)
- three numbers (singular, plural, collective)
- prepositional demonstrative pronoun
- prepositional possessive pronoun

[Root + Root's extension(s) + Number + Case]

Verbs

- nominative accusative alignment
- three aspects (imperfective, perfective, perfect)
- four voices (active, reflexive, reciprocal, causative)
- evidentiality (reported, everything else)
- four moods (Indicative, Conditional, Potentional, Imperative)
- intensifiers (very strong, strong, normal, weak, very weak)
- no grammatical tense

Adjectives

- descriptive adjectives in role of the adjectives
- adverbial participles in the role of adverbs

Pronouns

- N-M pronouns
- logophoric pronoun

Adpositions

- prepositions and postpositions

Syntax

- SOV
- Describing word - Described word

Proto-Tyrmic (blue colour on central continent)

Phonology

Consonants:

/p t k/ <p t k>
/pʰ tʰ kʰ/ <ph th kh>
/b d g/ <b d g>
/t͡ʃ/ <c>
/t͡ʃʰ/ <ch>
/dʒ/ <ǧ>
/s ʃ h/ <s sh h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/r l/ <r l>
/j/ <j>

Vowels:

/i y u/ <i y u>
/e ø o/ <e ø o>
/æ/ <æ>
/a/ <a>

Front: y ø æ
Neutral: i e
Back: u o a

Vocalic harmony (front vs back).

Phonotactics:

CVCC

Accent:


Length accent on first syllable.

Nouns

- ergative alignment
- secundative ditransitive alignment
- five classes (Human, Animal, Vegetal, Spiritual, Other)
- two numbers (singular, plural)
- possessive suffixes
- five cases (Nominative, Ergative, Accusative, Genitive, Instrumental)
- indefinite and definite articles (cliticized)

[Root + Root's extension(s) + Possessor (Number + Class) + Case + Article]

Verbs

- nominative-accusative alignment in verbs
- five aspects (Durative, Momentaneous, Intentional, Accidential, Intensive)
- two tenses (past and non-past)
- three voices (Active, Medial, Causative)
- three moods (Indicative, Conditional, Desiderative)
- evidentiality (witness, nonwitness)
- no person affixed

[Person + Evidentiality] + [Root + Root's extension(s) + Voice + Tense + Aspect + Mood]

Adjectives

- adjectives the same as adverbs

Pronouns

- M-T pronouns
- Class affixed to pronouns

Adpositions

- postpositions

Syntax

- VSO
- Described word - Describing word
 
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I've looked through this thread before, but I only actually joined AH.com a few weeks ago.
You'll probably see me on this thread a lot.
Anyways, I like the ideas going around! I specifically like the Deurond Empire. But what nation invaded its capital?
Maybe I'll come up with a civilization for this thread.
 
I announce my existence!
I've looked through this thread before, but I only actually joined AH.com a few weeks ago.
You'll probably see me on this thread a lot.
Anyways, I like the ideas going around! I specifically like the Deurond Empire. But what nation invaded its capital?
Maybe I'll come up with a civilization for this thread.

Welcome to the thread! It's nice to have somebody new, since things have been going a little slow lately :confused:. As for the Deurond Empire, whatever nation invaded it was never specified, so you'd have to ask its creator what they had in mind. Feel free to contribute.
 
I announce my existence!
I've looked through this thread before, but I only actually joined AH.com a few weeks ago.
You'll probably see me on this thread a lot.
Anyways, I like the ideas going around! I specifically like the Deurond Empire. But what nation invaded its capital?
Maybe I'll come up with a civilization for this thread.
Hi, welcome to ah.com! I'm glad you take interest in my ideas. As for the nation that invaded Deurond, it was just some relatively unimportant petty kingdom that thought that conquering the now greatly weakened Deurond would make them seem more prestigious. Honestly I just threw that part in to finish up the history section. Maybe I'll write more about it later.
 
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