Map Thread XII

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Post with the description for those confused.

And the map to go with:
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TheHombre, is any form of communism, socialism or any other radical left ideologay of any importance ITTL? And was there an American Civil War ITTL? Maybe between monarchists and republicanists?

As of now, there are a few, but none have really gained any real traction. And yes, there was an American Civil War: It was called the American Succession Crisis (1867-1874), and it was a disastrous war, though the nation survived in one piece, albeit a rickety one. There were monarchists and republicans, though not all the fighting was between monarchists and republicans - in fact there was a lot of sectional splits and infighting that crippled the New Imperial Army.

Dat Maghreb. :cool:

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Pretty map, but “Holy Alliance and allies”? Wouldn’t there inherently be no allies to the Holy Alliance? Because… they’d just all be part of the Alliance… :p
More like associated states. Kind of like how Australia and New Zealand are allies of NATO, but not in NATO.
 
More like associated states. Kind of like how Australia and New Zealand are allies of NATO, but not in NATO.

Perhaps rephrase as "Holy Alliance proper and allies"?

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while pushing their affairs toward the East and the quagmire that is China, seeking to gain a greater foothold than Britain or her ally China.
probably requires a "Japan" in it somewhere. :)

Very nice map and scenario, but the "Danubian Federation" seems a touch iffy as written. That's not a nation-state, but a multi-national empire up to the 1840s point, run by the German House of Habsburg (or so I assume). Austria was pretty solidly dominated by the German minority until quite late in its history, and rather than reforming as a Happy Shiny Federation, the most likely result of an 1840s revolutionary period is that it either falls apart or stays together, like OTL, by brute force and quite likely Russian assistance. (Not that a democratic revolutionary movement arising against the Habsburgs and being So Cool that even the Hungarians won't want to break up the act is impossible, but I wouldn't put my betting money that way).

Frankly, it would make more sense to me to put Danubia in the Russian camp and the Ottomans in the French one. (The Habsburgs have a number of reasons to be pissed at the French). Or have AH break up and the different bits have different alliances. (Hungary pro-French, and perhaps Bohemia pro-Russian because the nationalists in the German republic eye the Sudetenland hungrily).

On the third hand :) maybe Austria holds together by brute force sans Russian assistance, and decades later ends up moving into the French camp because it has slowly democratized or because it has ended up on the outs with the Russians because of its mistreatment of the Orthodox and/or Slavic minorities (perceived, anyway) or some such.

(Just my 2 cents).

Bruce
 
Perhaps rephrase as "Holy Alliance proper and allies"?

This sentence
while pushing their affairs toward the East and the quagmire that is China, seeking to gain a greater foothold than Britain or her ally China.
probably requires a "Japan" in it somewhere. :)

Very nice map and scenario, but the "Danubian Federation" seems a touch iffy as written. That's not a nation-state, but a multi-national empire up to the 1840s point, run by the German House of Habsburg (or so I assume). Austria was pretty solidly dominated by the German minority until quite late in its history, and rather than reforming as a Happy Shiny Federation, the most likely result of an 1840s revolutionary period is that it either falls apart or stays together, like OTL, by brute force and quite likely Russian assistance. (Not that a democratic revolutionary movement arising against the Habsburgs and being So Cool that even the Hungarians won't want to break up the act is impossible, but I wouldn't put my betting money that way).

Frankly, it would make more sense to me to put Danubia in the Russian camp and the Ottomans in the French one. (The Habsburgs have a number of reasons to be pissed at the French). Or have AH break up and the different bits have different alliances. (Hungary pro-French, and perhaps Bohemia pro-Russian because the nationalists in the German republic eye the Sudetenland hungrily).

On the third hand :) maybe Austria holds together by brute force sans Russian assistance, and decades later ends up moving into the French camp because it has slowly democratized or because it has ended up on the outs with the Russians because of its mistreatment of the Orthodox and/or Slavic minorities (perceived, anyway) or some such.

(Just my 2 cents).

Bruce
To be fair, I wasn't going for 100% accuracy on this one, just more Rule of Cool. Mostly because it was more practice with the GIMP style of mapmaking, plus a take on the idea of a Napoleonic victory. Which means, then, that I want to preserve some sort of Napoleon-esque look and feel to the world, even if it doesn't make 100% sense. Plus a Danubian Federation is just cool. :cool:

If it were done more realistically, it'd probably be either the Bonapartes hardlining the Habsburgs into keeping Austria together for his sake, Hungary splitting off from Austria, or Russia lending a helping hand and sending the Ottomans into the French camp.

Like I said, though, just a little bit of fun had with mapmaking. Next up, too, is 1Blomma's tutorial on mapmaking via Photoshop, so that should be interesting (and I swear I'll get back to more realistic maps soon!). :)
 

Very nice, I like Napoleonic empires.

Very nice map and scenario, but the "Danubian Federation" seems a touch iffy as written. That's not a nation-state, but a multi-national empire up to the 1840s point, run by the German House of Habsburg (or so I assume). Austria was pretty solidly dominated by the German minority until quite late in its history, and rather than reforming as a Happy Shiny Federation, the most likely result of an 1840s revolutionary period is that it either falls apart or stays together, like OTL, by brute force and quite likely Russian assistance. (Not that a democratic revolutionary movement arising against the Habsburgs and being So Cool that even the Hungarians won't want to break up the act is impossible, but I wouldn't put my betting money that way).

Frankly, it would make more sense to me to put Danubia in the Russian camp and the Ottomans in the French one. (The Habsburgs have a number of reasons to be pissed at the French). Or have AH break up and the different bits have different alliances. (Hungary pro-French, and perhaps Bohemia pro-Russian because the nationalists in the German republic eye the Sudetenland hungrily).

On the third hand :) maybe Austria holds together by brute force sans Russian assistance, and decades later ends up moving into the French camp because it has slowly democratized or because it has ended up on the outs with the Russians because of its mistreatment of the Orthodox and/or Slavic minorities (perceived, anyway) or some such.

(Just my 2 cents).

Bruce

I'm guilty of the same sin, but admittedly my Danubians are communists who did away with nationalism at gunpoint. :p
 
Republic of Holland? The other Provinces would like to have a word with you.

And, that's a good quality map you made, even if I disagree with the above republic.
Thank you! And it's not like I quite agree with the republic, it's just more a French invention than the Dutch. Though everyone in Holland quite likes it. :p
 
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