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glenn67 said:
It appears that the Democrats will hold the solid South (until President RFK), the Republicans the solid Northeast and West, and the Midwest (especially Ohio) very competitive.
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The TL featuring those infoboxes starts with the POD of Teddy Roosevelt running again in 1908, which butterflies into the progressive wing of the GOP becoming much stronger than OTL. By the end of ALT WWII, the democrats are dominated by the southern segregationist wing and most conservative republicans defect to join them, making the democrats the conservative party with the GOP - after merging with the short-lived progressive party - the left-leaning party.

Hence RFK running as a republican. The dems hold their own through the early 60's, but as the civil rights movement gains momentum, the party realizes it has to change and A.B. "Happy" Chandler is nominated, running as a new breed of post-civil rights democrat in the mold of an OTL Jimmy Carter.

Obviously, the dems remain rooted in the south, as you can see by the nominations of John Connally and Sam Nunn in the 80's. I had some vague ideas of a Hillary Rodham (R) vs. Bill Clinton (D) election in 1996, given the two never met/married in this TL.
 

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Originally by pipisme, and being remade by Van555, we have the 1923 British General election from Keeping the British Liberal Flag Flying!

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lord caedus

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I don't know what to say, I uploaded it directly to the website, via my storagebox, and it's working fine for me.
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Never mind, it's working. Don't know why it wasn't.

What's with the "or" in the popular votes for the Conservatives & Liberals?
 

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lord caedus said:
Never mind, it's working. Don't know why it wasn't.

What's with the "or" in the popular votes for the Conservatives & Liberals?
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After uploading this for the third time, I think everything should be fine. Knowing my luck it'll be translated to Irish by the time I post this.
 
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Nofix said:
After uploading this for the third time, I think everything should be fine. Knowing my luck it'll be translated to Irish by the time I post this.
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Tch, typical, as soon as Southern Ireland leaves, Britain starts using Irish for its election infoboxes :p

The 1923 poll was a weird, weird election. The Liberals were already on the way out (though obviously pipisme did something different, I've seen books from 1920 that act as though the Liberals are on borrowed time and being inevitably consumed by Labour) and then suddenly they won a whole load of seats that they'd never won even in their biggest landslides, or only barely in those, when they were a major party of government. One of the rare elections actually fought on issues overruling tribalism--it was pro-free trade areas abandoning the Tories for the Liberals, even normally super deep blue ones, because Baldwin had decided to switch to protectionism.
 

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Thande said:
Tch, typical, as soon as Southern Ireland leaves, Britain starts using Irish for its election infoboxes :p

The 1923 poll was a weird, weird election. The Liberals were already on the way out (though obviously pipisme did something different, I've seen books from 1920 that act as though the Liberals are on borrowed time and being inevitably consumed by Labour) and then suddenly they won a whole load of seats that they'd never won even in their biggest landslides, or only barely in those, when they were a major party of government. One of the rare elections actually fought on issues overruling tribalism--it was pro-free trade areas abandoning the Tories for the Liberals, even normally super deep blue ones, because Baldwin had decided to switch to protectionism.
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Looking back in the pre-1930's-ish era of elections, pretty much in the whole Anglosphere, it's so fucking weird how hardcore the battles over tariffs and free trade got. We live in a Free Trade World, so the idea that whole centuries were filled with this kind of electoral fighting is just, just- I don't get it. I can't wrap my mind around the idea, the inner workings, nor the passion that consumed so many people over free trade and protectionist. Give me a topic like war, or slavery, that I get. Hell even something like government oppression and inter-ethnic rivalries (Irish Democrats and German Republicans in the 1860's), and I can consume that. Give me economic issues (even Silverism), and I'm kind of shuffling in confusion over the whole ordeal.
 
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Nofix said:
Looking back in the pre-1930's-ish era of elections, pretty much in the whole Anglosphere, it's so fucking weird how hardcore the battles over tariffs and free trade got. We live in a Free Trade World, so the idea that whole centuries were filled with this kind of electoral fighting is just, just- I don't get it. I can't wrap my mind around the idea, the inner workings, nor the passion that consumed so many people over free trade and protectionist. Give me a topic like war, or slavery, that I get. Hell even something like government oppression and inter-ethnic rivalries (Irish Democrats and German Republicans in the 1860's), and I can consume that. Give me economic issues (even Silverism), and I'm kind of shuffling in confusion over the whole ordeal.
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Well, they meant the difference between starvation and survival for many people, which makes it a bit easier to understand. I know what you mean though.
 
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Nofix said:
Looking back in the pre-1930's-ish era of elections, pretty much in the whole Anglosphere, it's so fucking weird how hardcore the battles over tariffs and free trade got. We live in a Free Trade World, so the idea that whole centuries were filled with this kind of electoral fighting is just, just- I don't get it. I can't wrap my mind around the idea, the inner workings, nor the passion that consumed so many people over free trade and protectionist. Give me a topic like war, or slavery, that I get. Hell even something like government oppression and inter-ethnic rivalries (Irish Democrats and German Republicans in the 1860's), and I can consume that. Give me economic issues (even Silverism), and I'm kind of shuffling in confusion over the whole ordeal.
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I don't think it was only the Anglosphere. It sounded like a big thing in most developed countries then.
 
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Alright, here's a remastered version of this to account for Wikipedia's new look and the new colours I chose. Consider it upgraded to "New Rosalia".

And here's some write-up of this.

After the fall from power and subsequent suicide of Cecilio Salinas, many were expecting the Totalists under Lopez to take over, but the Totalists were collapsing in support as their MPs turned upon one other when Lopez was in hospital recovering from a sudden illness. When Lopez reasserted control once returning from the hospital, he found he had to replace 1/3 of his MPs as many left the party (and consequencely Parliament) and so his party was portrayed in the media as weak and divided. His party was collapsing in support as their base lost faith in them as some went back to the Social Democrats, while others went to the Communists. However, most of the Totalist base were middle-class anti-socialists who ended up backing the party most sympathetic to them, the Liberal-Progressives. Julia Beutler Holguín, leader of the PLP, recognised this opportunity and turned her party more towards middle-class reformism, drawing a "middle way" between the PSD and PT's radicalism and the small-c conservatism of traditional anti-socialist parties, the Agrarians and Conservatives. As Communists increased in support, more anti-socialists flocked to her party in reaction and boosted them massively in the polls, hurting the Agrarians as they were split between "red-green" reformist agrarians and the dominating "blue-green" conservative anti-socialist agrarians. Holguín's strategy took from both, paradoxically also benefiting the Conservatives, who took some blue-green voters as well from the weakening Agrarians. The Verusan People's Party managed to get back some voters from the other parties. Meanwhile, Nizar Alfarsi's Ethnic Minority Federation managed to have a small recovery amidst the political chaos.

In the end, Astudillo managed to hold on to government, forming a coalition with the (now red-green controlled) Agrarians, the VPP and the Conservatives (very much due to their distrust of Holguín and a misguided belief they could moderate the PSD, and a fear of a PSD-PCR coalition)
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And here's the infobox. I would love replies to this.

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CthulhuFhtagn

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Here's the updated version of the American Confederation 2012 election. Seats in Congress are allocated in a way that dilutes the power of the big countries while strengthening the small countries, which is why some parties have more seats than others despite having significantly fewer votes (like the Constitution Party in Cuba vs. the Justice Party in the United States).

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The SDP-Wokers' Party coalition comes to an end as Chairman Russell "Stringer" Bell wins enough seats for a majority. Things just keep getting worse for the Conservatives, who were rocked by scandals in 2009. They lose seats everywhere, even in their traditional strongholds in Mexico. The Populists become the first party in American history to overtake one of the dominant two. The Workers' Party loses a lot of seats, partially due to a perception that Jorge Cham "sold out" by compromising with the elites in the SDP. The Constitution Party wins a seat outside of Cuba for the first time. And in the United States, the Justice Party has just won its first seat in Congress. Its leader, Zachary Comstock, promises to "bring down the Bonapartist Anarchist Chinese stooges in Havana".

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lord caedus

Follow-up to this one, showing the aftermath of Humphrey's win without Nixon's campaign violating the Logan Act.

Basically what I envision the following election in a Humphrey presidency. Humphrey's administration withdraws US troops from Vietnam in 1970, passes the first real environmental legislation, sees the US through the brief recession at the start of the decade, begins a detente with the Soviet Union as a result of negotiations over Vietnam and the president campaigns on bringing near-universal health care and income-based affirmative action to Americans.

Reagan gets the GOP nomination as the first runner-up from 1968. His brand of conservatism is still too extreme to the American people, but Reagan's folksy demeanor, use of dog-whistle appeals to prevent southern whites from returning to the Democratic fold and fatigue with 12 years of Democratic presidents makes the election closer than what it would have been.

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That'll make 8 years of Republican rule, sandwiched between 20 and 16 years.

I love how even with all this time there is still that one guy giving an Electoral Vote to that one Libertarian. He should be a meme, or a running gag.
 

lord caedus

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That'll make 8 years of Republican rule, sandwiched between 20 and 16 years.

I love how even with all this time there is still that one guy giving an Electoral Vote to that one Libertarian. He should be a meme, or a running gag.
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I figured that since Virginia's electors are all Republican, like OTL, they should have the OTL faithless elector.
 

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lord caedus said:
I figured that since Virginia's electors are all Republican, like OTL, they should have the OTL faithless elector.
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Probably. I don't know the process of choosing an elector in any given state (other then you need a person to declare themselves for that candidate in said state, a reason why Lincoln wasn't on many ballots in 1860). Still you'd expect a little change after 8 years.

Also, this race would be significant, as in OTL, for being the first which the Democrats won no Southern States. If Johnson were alive, which he might be should Humphrey win over Nixon, he'd be proving himself right about Civil Rights.
 
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