Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes II
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I love it.
Always loved your infoboxes. Any chance you might continue the one that ended with President Douglas?
Pity Vexacus is banned. I would have loved to see his reaction to this.
I did have a bare bones list of future Presidents for that series of infoboxes, up through 1988:
1952: William O. Douglas (R) def. Harry Truman (D) - LANDSLIDE
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson (D) def. Earl Warren (R) - CLOSE ELECTION; JOHNSON RESIGNS AFTER SEVERE HEART ATTACK AFTER YEAR 3
1960: Nelson Rockefeller (R) def. J. William Fulbright (D) - CLOSE ELECTION
1964: Nelson Rockefeller (R) def. Robert Byrd (D) - 300+ EV WIN
1968: Spiro Agnew (R) def. George Wallace (D) - 400+ EV WIN; WALLACE CARRIES JUST THE SOUTH
1972: A.B. Chandler (D) def. Spiro Agnew (R) - CHANDLER RUNS AS FIRST OF 'NEW BREED' POST-SEGREGATIONIST DEMS; CLOSE ELECTION
1976: A.B. Chandler (D) def. Sargent Shriver (R) - 300+ EV WIN
1980: Robert F. Kennedy (R) def. John Connally (D) - 300+ EV WIN
1984: Robert F. Kennedy (R) def. Sam Nunn (D) - LANDSLIDE
That was the idea. It would obviously be very controversial, particularly with Dole winning the popular vote.
I think it has the widest divide of states won by the loser. I wonder how a map with the minimal amount of states won could be done?
The first time done by a Democrat winning instead of a Republican, which historically has been done the other way, but considering each time that has happened in the 1800's and 1900's there was a large segment of the populace that couldn't vote, it can't really be considered to be that similar.
Inspired by the "Inversed Countries Wikibox" thread, here's the first leader and beloved communist uncle of North Japan:
It's Ho Chi Minh. The guy who led North Vietnam against both France and the US, and defeated both.
Gian
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Here's a totally original and in no way uninspired idea, Canadian Presidential election! Basically, Britain falls in 1940 to the Nazi's and Canada severs all ties to the mother country and adopts a new Constitution, with a Presidency based on their southern neighbors. Every vaguely important non-Liberal Party member (and even some Independent Liberals) band together in a "National" Party to oppose them in this election, often meaning a Presidential ticket was King once, and Manion 5 times on the ballot. Now Canada must liberate Europe with only Australia, New Zealand, and the occasional lost and/or drunken American. God save the King...
A more clean version of the electoral map
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This prototype highlights just why an American Electoral College couldn't work in Canada, short of splitting some provinces up, Ontario (31.4%) and Quebec (26.4%) make up a near supermajority in the EC (57.86%). Think it's bad in America or Canada now? Imagine in New York and California had a third of the votes themselves, or if a bare plurality of votes in Ontario and Quebec means control of the Presidency for 5 years (it kind of is like that now, but you get what I mean, it'd be far worse).
So, yea, like any thoughts or suggestions or something?
Can you do Canada 2011 and 2006's presidential results?
Decided to do an election BEFORE the rise of the Social Democrats to show you what it looked like.
In the elections of 1900, the bourgeoisie hoped to see the Socialist Workers' Party, main successor to the revolutionary Labour-Farmer Masses, fall to irrelevance, but they held on to second place thanks to the charismatic Marcos Velásquez successfully convincing enough of the populace to vote Socialist Workers' and not for the bourgeois parties or the Progressives.
In 1904, Chairman Santana is preparing to retire after 12 years in the office, but he has called one last election to ensure his successor gets enough time to govern. The Conservatives has chosen a member of the House of Lords to be their party leader and lider lista (by this time, the two are normally fused together by all parties). The Most Excellent Silvio Rodrigues, Duke of Campo de Flores, normally referred to as Lord Rodrigues, was to prove one of the last party leaders from the aristocracy as the middle-class, and later the working-class, grew to dominate the political scene.
Lord Rodrigues was an experienced statesman, having been Rosalia's Chief Ambassador in the Espada and Pelo del Plata governments. He proved a good speaker who could appeal to people who normally voted for the Agrarian League, and so his gains this election was primarily there.
Marcos Velásquez and the PSO campaigned hard this election, with their outreach to poor farmers (after the fall of MTA, they went back to the Agrarians) getting limited success due to the agrarian landowner Rodrigues having more appeal there than the urban-based PSO.
The Liberals were in a bind, with the question of "Grand Coalition" forever hanging over them and creating a deep divide between "Pro-Coalition" (or "National" Liberal) and "Anti-Coalition" (or "Independent" Liberal), with their current "middle-ground" policy of supply and confidence rapidly losing popularity. When the incumbent Liberal leader stepped down in 1903, two men stepped forth, the anti-coalition Rico Esparza and the pro-coalition Atilio Rey. In the end, traditional partisanship narrowly won out over pragmatism and Esparza won out. However, Rey walked out with a chunk of Liberal MPs and formed the National Liberal Party a month later. Notoriously, he placed members of his own family high on the party list, leading others to criticise it as nepotism.
With Progressive Left (the other successor to MTA) electing an academic to their leadership, they aimed to win middle-class votes and expand their base, but ended up overshadowed by the four main parties which took votes from them.
The VPP-PPV (Verusan People's Party) hoped to hold representation after the election as the 1% threshold (later removed in the 1910s in a desperate attempt to hold back the Social Democrats) threatened to deny them representation, but the "protest vote" ended up delivering them back into Parliament with a considerably more than expected number of MPs.
The MEL (Ethnic Minority League) was even more worried about the limit, for their base was slightly smaller than the VPP-PPV and the odds were against them, as surveys showed that ethnic minorities were gradually voting "mainstream". Thankfully for them, protest voters delivered them narrowly over the threshold with an almost-halved number of MPs.
The Conservatives ended up a decent second place, but ended up going back in coalition with the Agrarians (along with the NatLibs) to guarantee a strong government. Velásquez decried this, labelling it as "the final confirmation of the bourgeois collaboration against the workers". He ended up staying as Opposition Leader (an unofficial, but prestigious position) due to this, though.
Santana retired in 1905, handing over to his Chancellor, Dimas Roldan, who would end up the last Chairman of the Council of Ministers and the first Prime Minister.
Initials guide
PSO: Partido Socialista Obrero. Socialist Workers' Party.
MTA: Misas de Trabajo-Agricultor. Labour-Farmer Masses.
In the elections of 1900, the bourgeoisie hoped to see the Socialist Workers' Party, main successor to the revolutionary Labour-Farmer Masses, fall to irrelevance, but they held on to second place thanks to the charismatic Marcos Velásquez successfully convincing enough of the populace to vote Socialist Workers' and not for the bourgeois parties or the Progressives.
In 1904, Chairman Santana is preparing to retire after 12 years in the office, but he has called one last election to ensure his successor gets enough time to govern. The Conservatives has chosen a member of the House of Lords to be their party leader and lider lista (by this time, the two are normally fused together by all parties). The Most Excellent Silvio Rodrigues, Duke of Campo de Flores, normally referred to as Lord Rodrigues, was to prove one of the last party leaders from the aristocracy as the middle-class, and later the working-class, grew to dominate the political scene.
Lord Rodrigues was an experienced statesman, having been Rosalia's Chief Ambassador in the Espada and Pelo del Plata governments. He proved a good speaker who could appeal to people who normally voted for the Agrarian League, and so his gains this election was primarily there.
Marcos Velásquez and the PSO campaigned hard this election, with their outreach to poor farmers (after the fall of MTA, they went back to the Agrarians) getting limited success due to the agrarian landowner Rodrigues having more appeal there than the urban-based PSO.
The Liberals were in a bind, with the question of "Grand Coalition" forever hanging over them and creating a deep divide between "Pro-Coalition" (or "National" Liberal) and "Anti-Coalition" (or "Independent" Liberal), with their current "middle-ground" policy of supply and confidence rapidly losing popularity. When the incumbent Liberal leader stepped down in 1903, two men stepped forth, the anti-coalition Rico Esparza and the pro-coalition Atilio Rey. In the end, traditional partisanship narrowly won out over pragmatism and Esparza won out. However, Rey walked out with a chunk of Liberal MPs and formed the National Liberal Party a month later. Notoriously, he placed members of his own family high on the party list, leading others to criticise it as nepotism.
With Progressive Left (the other successor to MTA) electing an academic to their leadership, they aimed to win middle-class votes and expand their base, but ended up overshadowed by the four main parties which took votes from them.
The VPP-PPV (Verusan People's Party) hoped to hold representation after the election as the 1% threshold (later removed in the 1910s in a desperate attempt to hold back the Social Democrats) threatened to deny them representation, but the "protest vote" ended up delivering them back into Parliament with a considerably more than expected number of MPs.
The MEL (Ethnic Minority League) was even more worried about the limit, for their base was slightly smaller than the VPP-PPV and the odds were against them, as surveys showed that ethnic minorities were gradually voting "mainstream". Thankfully for them, protest voters delivered them narrowly over the threshold with an almost-halved number of MPs.
The Conservatives ended up a decent second place, but ended up going back in coalition with the Agrarians (along with the NatLibs) to guarantee a strong government. Velásquez decried this, labelling it as "the final confirmation of the bourgeois collaboration against the workers". He ended up staying as Opposition Leader (an unofficial, but prestigious position) due to this, though.
Santana retired in 1905, handing over to his Chancellor, Dimas Roldan, who would end up the last Chairman of the Council of Ministers and the first Prime Minister.
Initials guide
PSO: Partido Socialista Obrero. Socialist Workers' Party.
MTA: Misas de Trabajo-Agricultor. Labour-Farmer Masses.
It appears that the Democrats will hold the solid South (until President RFK), the Republicans the solid Northeast and West, and the Midwest (especially Ohio) very competitive.
A Minor Meighen Majority: It Refuses to Die!
Alan Eagleson, easily the most controversial of Canada's 22 Prime Ministers. First elected in 1961, he served as a backbench MP until narrowly managing to win the 1970 Conservative leadership, largely due to a populist campaign and immense financial support. [1]
Served as Prime Minister from 1973 to 1980, resigning after allegations of corruption and tampering with election laws.
During the late 1980s and 1990s he began to make a career rehabilitation, becoming a vocal critic of the National Liberal governments of Pierre Trudeau and Bob Kaplan. In 2001, he controversially won the Conservative nomination in St. Catharines, the riding where he was born and, also controversially, narrowly managed to be elected in 2002. In late 2003 he was once again charged with misuse of public funds, as well as overspending during the election, resulting in newly elected Conservative leader Andre Bachand kicking him out of caucus. He continued to sit as an MP until the summer of 2004, at which point he resigned. He would later be found guilty of these charges, and placed under house arrest.
[1] Retconned. Previously, I had him as a prominent cabinet minister in Ontario.
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Alan Eagleson, easily the most controversial of Canada's 22 Prime Ministers. First elected in 1961, he served as a backbench MP until narrowly managing to win the 1970 Conservative leadership, largely due to a populist campaign and immense financial support. [1]
Served as Prime Minister from 1973 to 1980, resigning after allegations of corruption and tampering with election laws.
During the late 1980s and 1990s he began to make a career rehabilitation, becoming a vocal critic of the National Liberal governments of Pierre Trudeau and Bob Kaplan. In 2001, he controversially won the Conservative nomination in St. Catharines, the riding where he was born and, also controversially, narrowly managed to be elected in 2002. In late 2003 he was once again charged with misuse of public funds, as well as overspending during the election, resulting in newly elected Conservative leader Andre Bachand kicking him out of caucus. He continued to sit as an MP until the summer of 2004, at which point he resigned. He would later be found guilty of these charges, and placed under house arrest.
[1] Retconned. Previously, I had him as a prominent cabinet minister in Ontario.
A Minor Meighen Majority
Canadian Federal Election 1925
Canadian Federal Election 1929
Canadian Federal Election 1933
Canadian Federal Election 1937
Canadian Federal Election 1940
Canadian Federal Election 1945
Canadian Federal Election 1950
Canadian Federal Election 1955
Canadian Federal Election 1957
Canadian Federal Election 1958
Canadian Federal Election 1961
Canadian Federal Election 1965
Canadian Federal Election 1967
Canadian Federal Election 1969
Canadian Federal Election 1973
Canadian Federal Election 1977
Canadian Federal Election 1980
Canadian Federal Election 1984
Canadian Federal Election 1986
Canadian Federal Election 1987
Pierre Trudeau
Canadian Federal Election 1989
Canadian Federal Election 1994
Jack Horner
Canadian Federal Election 1998
Canadian Federal Election 2002
Bob Kaplan
Canadian Federal Election 2006
Allan Rock
Canadian Federal Election 2009
Canadian Federal Election 2013
Canadian Federal Election 2014
Andre Bachand
Martha Hall Findlay
Eh...maybe. I might do something more interesting, like mix up each states process (early in America's history practically each state assigned their Electoral Votes in a weird way), or I might just play it straight. We'll see.
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