WI the coup attempt of 1975 in Greece was successful?

Don_Giorgio

In February 1975 7 months after the fall of the military Junta and pending the trial of the 1967 Coup leaders several officers (2 Brigaders 2 Lieutenant Colonels and 3 Majors) planned a military coup aiming to the overthrow of the Government the liberation of the coupists leaders and reestablishment of the military dictatorship...
However the plot was betrayed just days before it could erupt and loyal officers arrested the 7 leaders and 37 more officers implicated and the coup was aborted...
WI the coup was launched as planned and a new dictatorship was proclaimed in Greece?
What happens then?
 
Dan1988

Dan1988

Well, for a start, neither Nea Dimokratia nor Greece's first Socialist Government under the PASOK takes place. The KKE could be recriminalized. Cyprus is still a war-zone - maybe it would get more bloody.

There are too many butterflies to even think about.
 

yourworstnightmare

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Would be interresting to see how long this military rule would last. After the junta's Cyprus fiasco that did not end in Enosis, but instead a Turkish invasion on Cyprus, the military regime did not have much support anymore. This new one really have to do a lot to make sure they last. I think Greece will leave NATO, the Greek military would not want to be allied with Turkey. I can also see very hostile relations on the border between Greece and Turkey, a situation that can very well last in decades. Depending on how long the military rule last the EU membership may be endangered. Say the junta fall in the early 90's, that could very well postpone the Greek membership to 2002.
 

MUC

If you do get tensions at the Greek-Turkish borders and Greece leaves NATO, what if... Greece asks Bulgaria for some assistance to oust the Turks from Europe?
WWIII starting in the Balkans?
 

Don_Giorgio

MUC said:
If you do get tensions at the Greek-Turkish borders and Greece leaves NATO, what if... Greece asks Bulgaria for some assistance to oust the Turks from Europe?
WWIII starting in the Balkans?
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Bulgaria was Communist in 1975 Greece (especially under a right wing military dictatorship) would never have asked for help from Bulgaria...
 

MUC

In the mid 80s when tensions rose between Greece and Turkey because of the continental shelf issues, Greece and Turkey were close to war.
At the all time hight of the crisis, Greece sent its foreign minister to Sofia in the middle of the night to meet with the Bulgarian leadership. The proposal: Bulgaria is to open a second front against Turkey when war breaks out along the Greek-Turkish border.
As soon as the US received the info of that trip and the proposal to the Bulgarians, the US stepped in and ended the crisis.

Had it happened, we would have had WWIII starting in the Balkans in the 80s.

And that was a proposition by Greece to Bulgaria during peacetime. As soon as hostilities break out between Greece and Turkey in the 70s, who's to say Greece wont strike a deal with Bulgaria?
 

yourworstnightmare

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MUC said:
In the mid 80s when tensions rose between Greece and Turkey because of the continental shelf issues, Greece and Turkey were close to war.
At the all time hight of the crisis, Greece sent its foreign minister to Sofia in the middle of the night to meet with the Bulgarian leadership. The proposal: Bulgaria is to open a second front against Turkey when war breaks out along the Greek-Turkish border.
As soon as the US received the info of that trip and the proposal to the Bulgarians, the US stepped in and ended the crisis.

Had it happened, we would have had WWIII starting in the Balkans in the 80s.

And that was a proposition by Greece to Bulgaria during peacetime. As soon as hostilities break out between Greece and Turkey in the 70s, who's to say Greece wont strike a deal with Bulgaria?
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Yup, but that was a proposal by a democratic greek government, not a right-wing military (almost fascist) government that hated communism.
 

yourworstnightmare

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The USSR might help to arm the greek military, but that's all. Greece would not be a NATO member anymore, and I doubt they really would dare attack Turkey. They'd probably just attack the Turks with harsh words and propaganda, and arrange some border incidents now and then. I can see Greece becoming a very isolated state.
 

Don_Giorgio

yourworstnightmare said:
The USSR might help to arm the greek military, but that's all. Greece would not be a NATO member anymore, and I doubt they really would dare attack Turkey. They'd probably just attack the Turks with harsh words and propaganda, and arrange some border incidents now and then. I can see Greece becoming a very isolated state.
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I agree to that... Greece was feeling betrayed by NATO after Cyprus invasion...
 
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