Why Did the Confederate Constitution Have a Single-Term Presidency?

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The fact that there isn't competition is the problem. Without competition there is no way to know if what you making is worthwhile or not., in an economic sense. If the only pie making factories are owned by the government and don't compete against each other they can survive even when making very crappy pies. THAT is the problem.

Like it or not the world does not have infinite resources, so you have to determine how to allocate them one way or another. The problem with centralized planning is that it takes way too many calculations to do efficiently. You are talking about millions of products which all need to be planned with highly recursive calculations. The number is far too large even for the fastest theoretical computer , IIRC the number of calculations needed are numbered in hundreds of orders of magnitude.

This has exactly nothing to do with why the Confederate Constitution allowed a single presidential term of six years.
 
While I am sure this is not the reason IMO the flaws are more a reaction TO Trump than Trump himself, and I don't even like the guy. Read my 2016 pre-election posts on him However, once he won everyone should have accepted it and moved on. Once that happened he should have been treated like every other president.

Like him or hate him he won and there can't be one rule for Trump and another for everyone else. Just because it's Trump doesn't make it right that you use a fake dossier on him paid for by his political opponent to spy on him and then try to use it to impeach him when it is clearly fake. This is far worse than what Nixon did. Nixon used Cuban exiles to spy on the Democrats but he didn't use a fake dossier claiming McGovern was plotting with the Russians and then use the FBI to spy on him.

I didn't vote for him last time but this time I am out principle. The principle being when someone is elected you accept it and move on . You have a right to oppose him but you don't have a right to throw a temper tantrum for four fricking years! Democracies can only remain stable if the losers accept their loss and move on.

I regard every one of these points as a gross misstatement of reality. But I will not get into the weeds as it's against forum rules to discuss current politics and I don't want to get into a flame war. Needless to say, the US was downgraded by the EIU in 2016, so your whole argument is nonsense.

To return to the broader conversation, the point is that the US was for many times to considered a notable exception to the tendency for presidential systems to devolve into autocracy. And the most recent rankings show that the US may not be as immune as once thought. As such, I don't think four year terms versus six year terms, or term limits, matter that much. The design flaw was being a presidential system in the first place, and the CSA is highly likely to collapse into dictatorship.
 
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Marx's prediction on wage changes in regards to the tendency of the rate of profit to fall are more complex than that -- the argument is actually that worker's wages are not keeping up with productivity. There may be raises and such but they do not point to the working class being able to challenge or become the capitalist bourgeoisie politically or materially. You're also neglecting to factor in the issue of prices.

Marx's position appears to have varied through his life and to be unclear even to people who are deeply immersed in Marx - "When it became clear that the conditions of the working class were not growing worse in objective terms (for example wages continued to rise and living conditions improved), it was suggested that Marx did not believe the working class would be immiserated in absolute terms but rather in relative terms i.e the worker would become more exploited. However, Neven Sesardic criticises this view on two grounds. Firstly, it is unclear if this is an empirical statement that can actually be examined, whereas absolute immiseration can be. Secondly, Sesardic argues that it is not clear Marx did mean relative immiseration; Sesardic observes that in the Communist Manifesto, Marx talks about the workers having nothing to lose but their chains, which is more in line with the view of absolute immiseration. Even by 1865 when Marx had moved towards a more scientific analysis, his work still implied absolute immiseration - in the 1865 paper "Value, Price and Profit", read at the International Workers' Association, Marx states that capitalism will drive down the average standard of wages."

A lack of scholarly rigor and competence even on the most basic and important points of his work is nothing unusual to Marx (and mostly why he appears to have been disregarded from his field very shortly after his activity and by his death, with his appeal to political revolutionaries saving his bacon). So for practical purposes would fall to sympathy to how "charitably" he is to be interpreted.
 
While I am sure this is not the reason IMO the flaws are more a reaction TO Trump than Trump himself, and I don't even like the guy. Read my 2016 pre-election posts on him However, once he won everyone should have accepted it and moved on. Once that happened he should have been treated like every other president.

Like him or hate him he won and there can't be one rule for Trump and another for everyone else. Just because it's Trump doesn't make it right that you use a fake dossier on him paid for by his political opponent to spy on him and then try to use it to impeach him when it is clearly fake. This is far worse than what Nixon did. Nixon used Cuban exiles to spy on the Democrats but he didn't use a fake dossier claiming McGovern was plotting with the Russians and then use the FBI to spy on him.

I didn't vote for him last time but this time I am out principle. The principle being when someone is elected you accept it and move on . You have a right to oppose him but you don't have a right to throw a temper tantrum for four fricking years! Democracies can only remain stable if the losers accept their loss and move on.

You have to be one of the very few who didn't vote for him in 2016 who will vote for him in 2020. At the risk of debating current politics do you think he was impeached because of the Steele Dossier? Was the Mueller Report based on the Steele Dossier? Was the FBI looking at Carter Page because of Trump? Did the FBI bug Trump Tower? Who said the 2016 Election was rigged? Who said the 2020 Election will be rigged? Who said they would accept foreign help in an election? Who publicly called for foreign Governments to investigate his political opponents? And who has called his political opponents traitors?
 
Marx's position appears to have varied through his life and to be unclear even to people who are deeply immersed in Marx - "When it became clear that the conditions of the working class were not growing worse in objective terms (for example wages continued to rise and living conditions improved), it was suggested that Marx did not believe the working class would be immiserated in absolute terms but rather in relative terms i.e the worker would become more exploited. However, Neven Sesardic criticises this view on two grounds. Firstly, it is unclear if this is an empirical statement that can actually be examined, whereas absolute immiseration can be. Secondly, Sesardic argues that it is not clear Marx did mean relative immiseration; Sesardic observes that in the Communist Manifesto, Marx talks about the workers having nothing to lose but their chains, which is more in line with the view of absolute immiseration. Even by 1865 when Marx had moved towards a more scientific analysis, his work still implied absolute immiseration - in the 1865 paper "Value, Price and Profit", read at the International Workers' Association, Marx states that capitalism will drive down the average standard of wages."

A lack of scholarly rigor and competence even on the most basic and important points of his work is nothing unusual to Marx (and mostly why he appears to have been disregarded from his field very shortly after his activity and by his death, with his appeal to political revolutionaries saving his bacon). So for practical purposes would fall to sympathy to how "charitably" he is to be interpreted.
Recent statistical developments in the analysis of labor conflict actually corroborate the immiseration thesis -- the material well-being of the working class has decreased significantly in the face of the massive growth of the capitalist class in recent years, according to Regeneration Magazine: https://regenerationmag.org/the-actuality-of-marxs-immiseration-thesis-in-the-21st-century/
Marx might have been wrong on the inevitable impoverishment of the working class, but he was correct on the issue of the very disproportionate growth of the wealth of the capitalist class -- such a phenomenon increases overall inequality and further decreases the power of the working class on the ownership of the means of production. What is the point of a good raise in your wage if Bill Gates' pile increases almost tenfold in a year, to illustrate?
Also, i'd be careful in using someone such as Sesardic as a source -- he seems to openly believe in racist pseudoscience.
 
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You have to be one of the very few who didn't vote for him in 2016 who will vote for him in 2020. At the risk of debating current politics do you think he was impeached because of the Steele Dossier? Was the Mueller Report based on the Steele Dossier? Was the FBI looking at Carter Page because of Trump? Did the FBI bug Trump Tower? Who said the 2016 Election was rigged? Who said the 2020 Election will be rigged? Who said they would accept foreign help in an election? Who publicly called for foreign Governments to investigate his political opponents? And who has called his political opponents traitors?

The best way not to debate current politics is NOT to discuss them.
 
Recent statistical developments in the analysis of labor conflict actually corroborate the immiseration thesis -- the material well-being of the working class has decreased significantly in the face of the massive growth of the capitalist class in recent years, according to Regeneration Magazine: https://regenerationmag.org/the-actuality-of-marxs-immiseration-thesis-in-the-21st-century/

Regeneration Magazine is a platform for the Marxist Center and the revolutionary left.

Seems like an unbiased source.

Marx might have been wrong on the inevitable impoverishment of the working class, but he was correct on the issue of the very disproportionate growth of the wealth of the capitalist class -- such a phenomenon increases overall inequality and further decreases the power of the working class on the ownership of the means of production. What is the point of a good raise in your wage if Bill Gates' pile increases almost tenfold in a year, to illustrate?

The point is that a raise in real wages allows you to have more goods and services consumption, a better standard of living and a longer, healthier life, regardless of what is happening to some billionaire you never meet.

There are lots of good arguments for restraining inequality in capitalism (excessive concentration of wealth allows undemocratic concentration of political power, concentration of wealth causes inelastic goods (like homes in major cities) to reduce the standard of living etc. But this is all an argument for adjustments to capitalism to maximize the real earnings growth of the low income, not for preventing real earnings growth of the low income because the rich get more.

Churchill said it best:

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. "
 
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Well, this didn't just go off the rails, it waited until it was on a bridge crossing the Snake River Canyon!

Closed per posted policy on current politics. Its either that or kick half the posters in the thread.
 
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