With better decision making
And without a change of decision makers with diametrically opposed visions every few years. Plans and schemes don't work so well when the planners and schemers are replaced by men with a different agenda.
With better decision making
I don't necessarily disagree with any of that. Furthermore it doesn't help when the suppliers are unable to deliver the kit on time and at cost AND when there's an economic crisis roughly once every 5 years made worse by an underperforming economy.And without a change of decision makers with diametrically opposed visions every few years. Plans and schemes don't work so well when the planners and schemers are replaced by men with a different agenda.
In this case the jiggery pokery was the change of strategy following the 1957 Defence Review.I love it when a plan comes together. I guess the Argosy was an unplanned pregnancy resulting from some unauthorized jiggery-pokey.
In this case the jiggery pokery was the change of strategy following the 1957 Defence Review.
I wrote all that to compare it against this:The Beverley and Argosy to 1964 IOTL
Plans to 1957
In the early 1950s a force of 24 V.1000 (in 3 squadrons of 8 aircraft) and 32 Beverleys in (4 squadrons of 8 aircraft) was proposed to fly out one Army division to the Far East in one month. The total number of aircraft required to maintain the front-line of 32 Beverleys fluctuated between 50 and 54 aircraft.
The Radical Defence Review of 1954 cut the Beverley force from 32 aircraft in 4 squadrons to 24 aircraft in 3 squadrons. However, the total number of Beverleys to be built was increased from 50 in the February 1953 version of Plan K (when a front line of 32 aircraft in 4 squadrons was still planned) to 52 in the January 1955 version of Plan L (which is the first plan I have that shows a projected front line of 24 aircraft in 3 squadrons).
The planned front-line remained at 24 Beverleys in 3 squadrons in the January and September 1957 versions of Plan L. However, the total number of Beverleys required had decreased to 46. In the end 47 Beverley C Mk 1 aircraft were actually built.
In the RAF squadron pattern documents I have seen the intention up to and including the January 1957 version of Plan L was to deploy all the Beverley squadrons in the UK under Transport Command. That version of Plan L covered the period to 31st March 1963, when there were to be 24 Beverleys in 3 squadrons of 8 in Transport Command.
That changed in the September 1957 version of Plan L. Under that plan a mixed MRT/Heavy Freighter squadron with 6 Hastings and 4 Beverleys was to be based in the Arabian Peninsular. The squadron was to be formed between 1st October 1957 and 31st March 1958. The squadron was to be at half-strength with 6 Hastings on 31st December 1957 and be at full strength with 6 Hastings and 4 Beverleys by 31st March 1958. To compensate the Beverley force in RAF Transport Command was to be reduced from 24 aircraft in 3 squadrons of 8 aircraft on 31st December 1958 to 20 in 2 squadrons of 10 aircraft on 31st March 1958.
Under the September 1957 version of Plan L the total MRT/Heavy Freighter force of the RAF on 31st March 1963 was to consist of 68 aircraft (24 Bevereleys and 44 Hastings) in 7 squadrons deployed as follows:
Transport Command 36 aircraft in 4 squadrons
20 Beverleys in 2 squadronsNear East Air Force
16 Hastings in 2 squadrons
10 Hastings in one squadronAir Forces Middle East 10 aircraft in one mixed squadron
6 Hastings in half a squadronFar East Air Force
4 Beverleys in half a squadron
12 Hastings in one squadron
There were to be no Argosys and no Valettas.
What Actually Happened
The reality was somewhat different. 4 RAF squadrons were equipped with the Beverley as follow:
Although there is no mention of the Argosy in RAF plans up to September 1957 the Service bought 56 of them and they equipped 6 transport squadrons as follows:
- No. 47 Squadron in Transport Command converted from the Hastings to the Beverley in March 1956;
- No. 53 Squadron in Transport Command converted from the Hasting to the Beverley in October 1956. It remained in Transport Command until 30th June 1963 when it was disbanded. The squadron was reformed on 1st January 1966 as the first (and only) Belfast squadron;
- No. 30 Squadron in Transport Command converted from the Valetta to the Beverley in April 1957. It was transferred to Air Forces Middle East in November 1959. It was based at RAF Eastleigh in Kenya until October 1964 when it moved to RAF Muharraq in Bahrein.
- No. 84 Squadron in MEAF converted from the Valetta to the Beverley in May 1958. This was an all Beverley unit rather than the mixed squadron of Beverleys and Hastings projected in the September 1957 version of Plan L;
- No. 34 Squadron (formerly a Hunter squadron that had disbanded on 15th January 1958) was reformed with Beverleys in FEAF on 15th January 1960.
However, this force of 5 squadrons only lasted for a few months because No. 215 Squadron disbanded on 31st December 1957 and No. 105 Squadron disbanded on 1st February 1968.
- No. 114 Squadron in Transport Command converted from Hastings to the Argosy in October 1961. This squadron had only been in existence as a Hastings squadron since April 1959. It had briefly existed as the only Chipmunk squadron from November 1958 to March 1959. Before that it had been a transport squadron in MEAF operating Dakotas and then Valettas from August 1947 to December 1957;
- No. 105 Squadron (formerly a Mosquito squadron disbanded in February 1946) was reformed with the Argosy in AFME on 21st February 1962;
- No. 267 Squadron (formerly a Pioneer squadron disbanded in November 1958) was reformed with the Argosy in Transport Command on 1st November 1962;
- No. 215 Squadron (formerly a Pioneer squadron disbanded in September 1959) was reformed with the Argosy in FEAF on 1st May 1963;
- No. 70 Squadron in FEAF converted from the Hastings to the Argosy in October 1967.
The RAF's MRT force at 31st March 1963 was rather larger than the force planned for that date in September 1957. Instead of the 68 aircraft in 7 squadrons (3 Beverley and 4 Hastings) there were actually 14 (4 Argosy, 5 Beverley, 4 Hastings and one Valetta), but I don't know the number of aircraft per squadron. However, a year later (on 31st March 1964) I do know that there were 130 MRT aircraft (48 Argosy, 28 Beverley, 48 Hastings and 6 Valetta) in 13 squadrons (4 Argosy, 4 Beverley, 4 Hastings and one Valetta).
When expressed by type the MRT force of 130 aircraft in 13 squadrons consisted of:
The 48 Argosys in 4 squadrons (Nos. 105, 114, 215 and 267) deployed as follows:When expressed by RAF command the MRT force of 130 aircraft in 13 squadrons consisted of:
24 in 2 squadrons (Nos. 114 and 267) in Transport CommandThe 28 Beverleys in 4 squadrons (Nos. 30, 34, 46, and 84) deployed as follows:
14 in one squadron (No. 105) in AFME
10 in one squadron (No 215) in FEAF
8 in one squadron (No. 47) in Transport CommandThe 48 Hastings in 4 squadrons (Nos. 24, 36, 48 and 70) deployed as follows:
12 in 2 squadrons (Nos. 30 and 84) AFME
8 in one squadron (No. 34) in FEAF
30 in 2 squadrons (Nos. 24 and 36) in Transport CommandThe 6 Valettas in one squadron (No. 52) were in FEAF with a UE of 6 aircraft.
6 in one squadron (No. 70) in NEAF
12 in one squadron (No. 48) in FEAF
Transport Command had 62 aircraft 5 squadrons, that is:
24 Argosies in 2 squadrons (Nos. 114 and 267)Near East Air Force (formerly AHQ Levant) had 6 aircraft in one squadron, that is:
8 Beverleys in one squadron (No. 47)
30 Hastings in 2 squadrons (Nos. 30 and 36)
6 Hastings in one squadron (No. 70)Air Forces Middle East (formerly British Forces Arabian Peninsular) had 26 aircraft in 3 squadrons, that is:
14 Argosies in one squadron (No. 105)Far East Air Force - 36 aircraft in 4 squadrons
12 Beverleys in 2 squadrons (Nos. 30 and 84)
10 Argosies in one squadron (No. 215)
8 Beverleys in one squadron (No. 34)
12 Hastings in one squadron (No. 48)
6 Valettas in one squadron (No. 52)
As I understand it the requirement was for 30 but the sterling crisis of 1965 caused the initial order to be reduced to 10. Given Shorts had calculated 30 as the break even point that makes sense.
In Feb the same year the (expensive ) AW/HS681 development was cancelled and the Hercules was selected under some controversy to (not) meet the OR 351.
Edit: How does the Sterling crisis 1964-67 effect buying aircraft? Does it become more important to buy home made aircraft, or does the bad exchange rate make buying US aircraft particularly attractive?
I thought the Sterling Crisis was in the aftermath of the Six Day War of 1967 and the closing of the Suez Canal. That must have contributed to the cost increases that led to the cancellation of the F-111K. It probably contributed to the cost increases in the Spey-Phantom. Some of the Phantoms ordered were also cancelled. However, none of the Hercules that got as far as receiving serial numbers were cancelled. In fact after the initial 48 ordered in 1965 another 18 were ordered later. However, I don't know if more were planned, but not ordered because of the Sterling Crisis.
The 67 Sterling crisis was the straw that broke the camels back and lead to devaluation, the break up of the sterling area when Australia (and I imagine others) didn't devalue their pound(s) as well and the acceleration of the withdrawal East of Suez.
But there was another sterling crisis in late 64 where devaluation might and perhaps should have occurred but didn't for various political reasons, including a belief in a world role. However in 1965 Britain cancelled the AW681 and P1154 in Feb, the TSR2 in April, raised taxes and then secured a $1.4 billion loan from the IMF July. I don't know exactly when the plan for 30 Belfasts was dropped to an order for 10, but I'm pretty sure it was in this timeframe, the Herc order was placed somewhere in 1965 as well.
I can't help but think a reasonable course of action could be to buy 30 domestically produced Belfasts with pounds and retain the Argosy for a few more years until the sterling crisis had passed; after all, accepting the Herc meant abandoning the VTOL requirement that drove NMBR4-OR351 in the first place.
The Stirling crisis had been brewing for years certainly before Wilson was elected, there was a school of thought that Wilson should have bitten that particular bullet when he was elected but didn't for a mix of reasons including internal Labour politics and worries about giving the Tories more ammunition. There was a surprisingly fascinating program on BBC R4 a few weeks ago that discussed these issues, normally I avoid economics but this was quite interesting.
I think a more powerful Belfast was mooted as a tactical aircraft, but I think it would be better to ditch the 3 tier transport aircraft model for a 2 tier model.
I think the best way to react to the 64-65 Sterling crisis would be to ditch the entire NBMR22 requirement when the AW681 is cancelled and expand the Belfast buy. Then extend the Argosy fleet out for a few years while organising something to cover the tactical spectrum as the RAF would have a surfeit of heavy lift, I suggest the G222 or DHC5 Buffalo with good STOL characteristics.
I think that's all the posts that refer to the Sterling Crisis.The Argosy fascinates me from a procurement and fleet management perspective. I still think the best thing from Britain too do from 1964 with the Sterling crisis would be:
- defer the NMBR22 requirement
- build 30 Belfasts to replace the Beverlys and Hastings'
- retain the Argosys until 1970 or so
- replace the Argosy with something like the Buffalo, G222 or maybe the C160 if bigger is better
Yes, but it was faster than its contemporaries in one way.The Belfast was also very slow compared to its contemporaries earning the nickname Belslow in RAF service.
But not as useful as this...Oh it had a very useful hold which is why they survived for so long with Heavilift, the MoD leased them on multiple occasions for all sort of tasks including the Falklands and iirc GW1.
According to the Putnams on Short aircraft the company's entry to OR.351 was the S.C.5/21 (P.D.47) which was...View attachment 361795
British procurement policy wasn't always just right. Transall C.160 might have come with considerable benefits for industry vs Hercules. A slightly biased Belfast specification could very well have turned into a better Hercules, maybe. A tactical Belfast vs a strategic Belfast. Can a strategic transport do it on the dirt?
...a Belfast with blown flaps and control surfaces, giving V/STOL capability equivalent to that of the Breguet 941, for which Shorts later acquired the British agency and offered as P.D.71. The air for boundary-layer control in the SC.5/21 was supplied from a removable pack of three lightweight Rolls Royce turbocompressors installed in a fairing behind the centre-plane box-spar; the main landing-gear would have had 12-wheel bogies to permit take-off fro grass. As a tactical freighter, the S.C.5/21 would have been somewhat larger than its rivals in the O.R.351 competition, which was won by the Hawker Siddeley HS.681 with vectored-lift engines, only to be cancelled in 1965 after a substantial share of the sub-contract world had been allocated to Queen's Island.
If that's a comment what I wrote in Post No. 99 I don't see the relevance.The British went from deciding manned aircraft were obsolete to deciding that they shouldn't use runways, thus making the job of developing them extra hard (read: expensive).
Furthermore had World War III broken out it would probably have gone nuclear before the reserves could have been mobilised.There was another Defence Review in 1957. The USSR hadn't started World War III and the prospect of a full-scale world war was becoming increasingly unlikely because of nuclear deterrence. Therefore there was little point in spending huge amounts of money to maintain the standing forces and reserves needed to fight a war that was unlikely to happen. And the British economy was unable to continue supporting armed forces of that size in the first place.
The armed forces were restructured to fight guerrilla wars in the Third World, which became known as the "East of Suez" strategy.