So, just to help create more interest and debate for this TL, I've decided to post what I think TTL's 2010's North America could* look like.
*Still, we can't be completely sure, since a nuclear war could blow things up to kingdom come.
**Also, the map I used is just a modified version of Wilcoxchar's North America in 1860 Map
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Now starting from North to South.
Canada, Alaska, and the Artic are left blank simply for the fact that the possibilities have left me clueless. Still, I highly doubt we will see this entire region annexed by the U.S. in this timeline. Especially since the Author stated he wanted a more Hispanic U.S. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if everything west of Mormon Manitoba was divided between Russia or the U.S., or was annexed completely by the U.S.
As for the U.S., I ignored any Pacific or African possibilites for Hispanola and Puerto Rico. In OTL, the U.S. was close to annexing both the Dominican Republic and Cuba. Now that TTL's U.S. has already annexed Cuba, it just seems likely that the Dominican Republic would be next, followed by Haiti, and Puerto Rico. Haiti is just a natural choice if Eastern Hispanola is annexed, and sooner or later, Spain is going to get over it's imperial past. At that point, Spain would most likely let go of Puerto Rico, so why not sell it to the U.S.?
Still, I doubt the U.S. will ever annex the Bahammas or Jamaica. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they remained territories of the U.K. Still, if they do become independent commonwealths, we could see the Lesser Antilles Island uniting into something like the "Commonwealth of the West Indies."
Now for California. Now, I will admit I was part of the crowd that wanted the U.S. to annex the Hell out of it, but luckily a very loyal fan of TTL named jycee showed me the light, and allowed me to see the Awesome of an independent California. Now for this Map's California...Well, it has a somewhat bitter history.
So I figured sometime after the ACW, the Hispanic Califonian populace has a movement that, while not exactly like Fascism, wants a California that's Hispanic and Catholic in culture. As a result, a referendum is hold in the Anglo States (States dominate by Americans, Brits, etc.) of Espejo, Gran Cuenca, Sacramento, and Trujillo. The subject of the Referendum is whether these states should remain a part of California, or join the U.S. Since the districts/states are dominated by Pro-U.S. Anglos, they all vote to join the United States. This leads to the Treaty of Yuerba Buena.
The Treaty of Yuerba Buena essentially states this. The U.S. gets all of Sacramento, Trujillo, almost all of Gran Cuenca, Espejo, and a northern portion of the Yuerba Buena District. For California, it gets a hefty sum for it's lost districts, international recognition of it's current boundries(which means the U.S. is technically forbidden from annexing or promoting the annexation of all or parts of remaning California), and California is given the right to not have it's domestic or foreign affairs "controlled" by the U.S.
Eventually, the Hispanic Californian Political Movement reaches its peak, and starts a war to annex the "failed" nation-state of Sonora...with the blessing of the U.S. of course. Thus California get's its current borders after giving Chihuahua some of the Sonoran left overs.
Now we turn to my favorite region of TTL a.k.a. Central America. In any case, the last 150 years have been worrisome for Central America, whether if it's American annexation in the Caribbean, the Californian Conquest of Sonora, the revival of Gran Columbia (Maybe renamed the United Republic/Kingom of Columbia-Venezuala?), and the general actions of Europe have done much to stress the many nations of Central America.
Still, four important events triggered what would become the Central American Union.
(The first three are mentioned in the above.)
#1. The American annexation of Hispanola after a bloody Civil War.
#2. The Californian conquest of Sonora
#3. The Revival of Gran Columbia
#4. The threats/problems that wars between individual Central American Nations could cause, with an example I made up being when Mexico(Rump) and Zacatecas(Queretaro) invade Jalisico for land and won.
As a result, various states signed Military defense treaties (Such as Chihuahua and Rio Bravo). Eventually, these military alliances evolved into economic alliances, etc. Sometime between 1960-1990, all of Central America was united into the Central American Union.
(Essentially the same as the E.U., but in Central America...Duh.)
Now for some notes about the C.A.U.
#1. There are officially 15 nations in the C.A.U. Veracruz isn't a nation but is an international territory that is equally owned by all C.A.U. members after the city-state gave up its independence during the C.A.U.'s formation.
#2. Veracruz also functions as the C.A.U.'s "Capital." Much in the same style as Brussels does for the E.U.
#3. The Central American Canal (C.A.C.,...Used to be called the Costa Rican Canal/C.R.C., but was renamed during the Union's formation.) is also an international territory owned by all C.A.U. members equally. Also, it forms the modern border of Costa Rica and Nicaragua. (Which is not shown in the above map.)
#4. For whatever reason, whether if it was a virus, or the fact that Guatemalan immigrants overtook the territory, the U.K. sells Guatemala the British Honduras Territory...So yeah...Guatemala Wank.
#5. And Finally, the currency of the C.A.U. is the C.A.P. (Central American Peso)
So, opinions, debates, etc?
P.S. I'm not trying to steal the timeline in any way, shape, or form. I'm just using my ideas as a way to encourage people to become more involved and to enjoy this wonderful AH.
Peace.
*Still, we can't be completely sure, since a nuclear war could blow things up to kingdom come.
**Also, the map I used is just a modified version of Wilcoxchar's North America in 1860 Map
View attachment 79653
Now starting from North to South.
Canada, Alaska, and the Artic are left blank simply for the fact that the possibilities have left me clueless. Still, I highly doubt we will see this entire region annexed by the U.S. in this timeline. Especially since the Author stated he wanted a more Hispanic U.S. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if everything west of Mormon Manitoba was divided between Russia or the U.S., or was annexed completely by the U.S.
As for the U.S., I ignored any Pacific or African possibilites for Hispanola and Puerto Rico. In OTL, the U.S. was close to annexing both the Dominican Republic and Cuba. Now that TTL's U.S. has already annexed Cuba, it just seems likely that the Dominican Republic would be next, followed by Haiti, and Puerto Rico. Haiti is just a natural choice if Eastern Hispanola is annexed, and sooner or later, Spain is going to get over it's imperial past. At that point, Spain would most likely let go of Puerto Rico, so why not sell it to the U.S.?
Still, I doubt the U.S. will ever annex the Bahammas or Jamaica. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they remained territories of the U.K. Still, if they do become independent commonwealths, we could see the Lesser Antilles Island uniting into something like the "Commonwealth of the West Indies."
Now for California. Now, I will admit I was part of the crowd that wanted the U.S. to annex the Hell out of it, but luckily a very loyal fan of TTL named jycee showed me the light, and allowed me to see the Awesome of an independent California. Now for this Map's California...Well, it has a somewhat bitter history.
So I figured sometime after the ACW, the Hispanic Califonian populace has a movement that, while not exactly like Fascism, wants a California that's Hispanic and Catholic in culture. As a result, a referendum is hold in the Anglo States (States dominate by Americans, Brits, etc.) of Espejo, Gran Cuenca, Sacramento, and Trujillo. The subject of the Referendum is whether these states should remain a part of California, or join the U.S. Since the districts/states are dominated by Pro-U.S. Anglos, they all vote to join the United States. This leads to the Treaty of Yuerba Buena.
The Treaty of Yuerba Buena essentially states this. The U.S. gets all of Sacramento, Trujillo, almost all of Gran Cuenca, Espejo, and a northern portion of the Yuerba Buena District. For California, it gets a hefty sum for it's lost districts, international recognition of it's current boundries(which means the U.S. is technically forbidden from annexing or promoting the annexation of all or parts of remaning California), and California is given the right to not have it's domestic or foreign affairs "controlled" by the U.S.
Eventually, the Hispanic Californian Political Movement reaches its peak, and starts a war to annex the "failed" nation-state of Sonora...with the blessing of the U.S. of course. Thus California get's its current borders after giving Chihuahua some of the Sonoran left overs.
Now we turn to my favorite region of TTL a.k.a. Central America. In any case, the last 150 years have been worrisome for Central America, whether if it's American annexation in the Caribbean, the Californian Conquest of Sonora, the revival of Gran Columbia (Maybe renamed the United Republic/Kingom of Columbia-Venezuala?), and the general actions of Europe have done much to stress the many nations of Central America.
Still, four important events triggered what would become the Central American Union.
(The first three are mentioned in the above.)
#1. The American annexation of Hispanola after a bloody Civil War.
#2. The Californian conquest of Sonora
#3. The Revival of Gran Columbia
#4. The threats/problems that wars between individual Central American Nations could cause, with an example I made up being when Mexico(Rump) and Zacatecas(Queretaro) invade Jalisico for land and won.
As a result, various states signed Military defense treaties (Such as Chihuahua and Rio Bravo). Eventually, these military alliances evolved into economic alliances, etc. Sometime between 1960-1990, all of Central America was united into the Central American Union.
(Essentially the same as the E.U., but in Central America...Duh.)
Now for some notes about the C.A.U.
#1. There are officially 15 nations in the C.A.U. Veracruz isn't a nation but is an international territory that is equally owned by all C.A.U. members after the city-state gave up its independence during the C.A.U.'s formation.
#2. Veracruz also functions as the C.A.U.'s "Capital." Much in the same style as Brussels does for the E.U.
#3. The Central American Canal (C.A.C.,...Used to be called the Costa Rican Canal/C.R.C., but was renamed during the Union's formation.) is also an international territory owned by all C.A.U. members equally. Also, it forms the modern border of Costa Rica and Nicaragua. (Which is not shown in the above map.)
#4. For whatever reason, whether if it was a virus, or the fact that Guatemalan immigrants overtook the territory, the U.K. sells Guatemala the British Honduras Territory...So yeah...Guatemala Wank.
#5. And Finally, the currency of the C.A.U. is the C.A.P. (Central American Peso)
So, opinions, debates, etc?
P.S. I'm not trying to steal the timeline in any way, shape, or form. I'm just using my ideas as a way to encourage people to become more involved and to enjoy this wonderful AH.
Peace.
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