Current plan: he did not survive the car crash on October 23 2002.
Trying to Please Everyone: Or Converting multiple Pop Culture Utopias into a Timeline.
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Damn, that early on? That would mean that The College Dropout, Late Registration, Graduation, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, and Yeezus would all be butterflied away ITTL.
Yes as would be his interruption of Taylor swift's performance and his George W Bush comments.
Yeah that is true.
While I would not want anyone to die a tragic death ITTL, an alternative would be for him to still survive the car crash, but due to his bipolar disorder and drug addiction, he ends up taking his own life in a nervous breakdown in November 2016. It’s not a better way to go out, but atleast his 2002-2016 work all still exists, and maybe in a silver lining his suicide would promote awareness?
I don't think he would commit suicide with his ego. I hope this doesn't age like Milk.
Yeah, it’s too dark of a suggestion anyways.
I don’t want Kanye to die, I just wonder if things could’ve gone differently with him.
What about having Kanye’s mother Donda living longer? I asked about Kanye West in a different alternate history discord server for a separate project and somebody suggested that his mother lives, which they stated as directly quoted;
“Maybe Kanye’s mother, Donda, lives. This makes him less crazy and forces him to actually seek treatment for his bipolar disorder”.
Could this work? I think it could considering butterflies and healthcare presumably being in a better spot than IOTL. Or is the plan still going to be the car crash?
Still a car crash, though his mother could also still be alive.
Jump World I(1989)
Jump World
While not every single franchise was included, the illustrators and authors made sure to throw in as many as possible. As a result there are no simple background characters and all have their origins in a Shonen manga. Others were given only cameos such as characters from Little Boy, appearing during a flashback to the bombing of Hiroshima in the background.
The Manga story ran from 1988-1989. It received an anime adaptation in 1989(which was the first time some of the characters appeared in animation) and was released alongside a video game.
1
Written by Go Nagai. The first chapter focuses largely on High School and Middle School setting characters including from Nagai’s 1968 Harenchi Gakuen, The Gutsy Frog,Stop Hibari-kun, High School Kimengumi, and Ten de Showaru Cupid. The Launch series of Shonen Jump in 1968 with Nagai’s first big success, Harenchi Gakuen, which solf one million copies Is why Go Nagai begins this segment. The series was a gag manga that broke many taboos. The word Harenchi means Scandal, alluding to the adult humor in the school setting, diving into eroticism from events such as looking into a girl’s locker room. Due to the nature of the series it was toned down in this case. Other characters to appear were the protagonist Hiroshi of The Gutsy Frog, though without knowledge of the series, Hiroshi appears to be just a kid with a frog on his shirt. The story is set in 1968 as a homage to the original debut.
2
The Second Chapter by Go Nagai. This chapter evokes the original Energer Z, also including Ryo Utsugi. Ryo and Koji Kabuto are good friends and also appeared as characters in chapter one. Ryo begins to have strange dreams, compelling him to go to the site where Juzo Kabuto’s Koji’s grandfather, is working on a project digging up a buried figure, having discovered a metal they’ve dubbed Japanium. Juzo is betrayed by another researcher who calls himself Dr.Hell and helps Ryo reach the robot only for Koji to arrive. It is revealed that the giant robot in question, Energer Z, was in the middle of fighting something, revealed to be the imprisoned Demon Lord Dante, which escapes its body by possessing Ryo, the reason he was brought there. Koji tries to fight in Energer Z but Ryo escapes. He then is introduced to Medusa[1], who is revealed to be his ancient lover. She explains to him their centuries long battle against the forces of God after they were cast out. Go Nagai deliberately changed the ending to not copy the original time his two characters fought.
3
A Mix of Doberman Deka and Tokyo BeatCops by Buronson and Osamu Akimoto involving the unlikely duo of Doberman Deka and Kankichi becoming partners taking down a crime with their vastly different attitudes(and genres) clashing. The duo end up pursuing a criminal that becomes a supernatural creature, later revealed to be a Demon of the Demon Lord Dante variety.
4
A sports story focusing on the cast of Play Ball and Captain Tsubasa. Young boy Takao fractures his finger and cannot play his dream sport of baseball but grows to love Soccer after meeting and befriending the impassioned Captain Tsubasa, beginning a life long friendship as he becomes his trainer and manager.
5
This entry provides an interesting bit of world building. There was once a race created by the Gods that became evil. One Deity convinced Gods to spare this race and they were banished to a distant planet while unknown to God another group of that race survived in secret in Hell. A Civil War broke out on that planet and the good and evil members separated. The Good members of the species becoming the heroic Chojin from Kinnikuman. The Evil members became the Saiyains from Dragonboy and took the planet for themselves while the Chojin went to Earth to become heroes. They did this until their king disappeared and a coup led by a member of their race called Kars wiped out all but his followers. The members of the species trapped in Hell became the inspiration for Demons led by Demon Lord Dante, until his imprisonment.
In the Present, Energer and Demon Lord Dante, having returned, have teamed up to oppose God, but after their battle nearly destroys the planet and so they instead propose a tournament. The invitation is sent out and several fighters respond, including characters from Kinnikuman and Arale-Chan. God himself decides to compete but must first possess a body. He chooses one in the form of none of the deceased Dio Brando(referred to by fans as ”Over Heaven Dio[2]” or sometimes jokingly as “God Dio”(Dio is Italian for God making the name God God. Dio's personality begins to take over, also leading to "You thought it was God, but it was I Dio!" jokes). Despite their efforts, and the victory in the tournament, God refuses and invades Earth anyway, triggering an apocalyptic war.
Over Heaven Dio
This story dives into the backstory of the Academy from Sakigake!! Otokojuku, which trains its students to the peak of every field. Its origins are revealed to be connected to Feudal Japan. Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star is one of their students as is Seiya[3] from the series of the same name, and they the challenge from a rival school forces the students to search for the legendary Fuma ninja clan. A century long Ninja War resumes. Unfortunately for the cast, the apocalypse from the previous Chapter occurs and plunges the world into chaos.
7
17 year old Ikuro Hashizawa is kidnapped and experimented on with a Bio Weapon but escapes with the aid of a captive Esper(The protagonist of Spring Wonder). The group end up crossing path with a revived Jonathan Joestar, who is hunting for the revived Dio. The group meet others along the way and learn of the existence of the Dragonballs, mystical orbs which can grant any wish. A young boy named Kenta joins the group and revealed that he found them but wished to become a superhero, which he called Wing-Man, which he now regrets as he realized after he could have done more, not knowing about the war between Good and Evil until it was too late. Another kid named Honmaru Edojo wished to become a wizard named Magical Taruruto. The group goes on a journey to gather the Dragonballs and use them to wish the world back to normal[4].
8
A story set prior to the Apocalyptic War as a breather chapter. The story is the crossover between Cat’s Eye and City Hunter, both by Tsukasa Hojo, who tells this story. The protagonist of the latter is hired to go after the protagonist’s of the former. He has a rival competing for the same goal in Chameleon Jail, protagonist of the series of the same name.
9
Returning to the main story, further information is given as the characters battle enemies including Demon King Piccolo, who declared himself ruler of Hell in the absence of Demon Lord Dante. This chapter also reveals that Demon Lord Dante took that name and that his real name is Anthrasax(From Bastard!!).
10
Kenichi Kokuho(The Burning Wild Man), Silver Fang(From the series of the same name) and Tar-Chan(Jungle King Tar-Chan), all meet in the wilderness and bond over being lost from civilization and becoming wild men. They all decide to return despite civilization having since collapsed to help others survive.
11
Another breather episode. This one focuses on an upcoming fight between Taison Maeda from Rokudenashi Blues and Ryuuji Takane from Ring no Kakero, both aspiring boxers in their own series, as they step into the ring to become the champion, unaware that the world is about to end. It becomes bitter sweet when the winner achieves their dreams but dies win the apocalyptic war soon after.
12
The Final showdown between the heroes and the villains, including Tangtong fighting Demon King Piccolo(several allusion to another work, a Dragonquest story by Shonen, are made but more visually than directly since the hero and the villain of Dragonboy resemble the hero and villain of that series). This also includes the final showdown between Demon Lord Dante and God in the body of Roah, becoming God Emperor Roah and then Over Heaven Dio with the aid of Jonathan Joestar and the others.
13
The Final “Extra” Chapter. This acts as an epilogue to the series. It jumps ahead to a man buying a tape in the future. He finds a tape called Gokuraku(Paradise),which causes a woman to come out of the screen. This being restores his memories of being a space Captain called Cobra battling the forces of an evil government, which he resumes doing. His robotic assistant is revealed to be an adult Arale-Chan and the two attack the head of the evil government in the future. Cobra is revealed to be a descendant of both Kenshiro and the Joestar family and the dictator he killed was the descendant of Dio.
FAMICON JUMP: Hero Retsuden
Translated to “Heroes History”. Bandai released a video game to tie into Shonen Jump’s anniversary. Which was made at around the same time as the Jump Special. The game adapts the later half of the series in which the protagonists must gather allies and search for the Dragonballs. While fighting villains.The 16 Player characters are:
Kenshiro(Fist of the North Star)
Tangtong(Dragonboy)
Ryo Saeba(City Hunter)
Arale Norimaki(Arale-Chan)
Seiya(Seiya)
Momotaro Tsurugi(Sakigake!! Otokojuku)
Jonathan Joestar(Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)
Jouji Janno(Doberman Deka)
Isamu(Koya no Shonen Isamu)
Tsubasa Oozora(Captain Tsubasa)
Kinnikuman(Kinnikuman)
Cobra(Cobra)
Koji Kabuto(Energer Z)
Ryo Utsugi(Demon Lord Dante)
Kankichi Ryotsu(Kochikame Tokyo Beat Cops)
Kenta Hirono(Wing-Man)
Other characters from various franchises make cameo appearances. Bosses include villains from across the series, though there is a heirarchy like in the game and bosses can be fought out of order. The “Heaven” Faction requires defeating Adam and Eve from Demon Lord Dante, God Emperor Raoh(Raoh possessed by God) and finally Over Heaven Dio. The “Hell” Faction requires defeating Dr.Hell, the Pillar Men, Demon King Piccolo and finally Demon Lord Dante. Defeating one faction does not preclude you from fighting the other and they can be fought in any order.
The game’s western release proved controversial towards some religious groups due to the depiction of God as the antagonist, though this was brushed off as an entity claiming to be god and not the actual being.
Notes
[1] For Jump World III in 2009, This Demon Lord Dante version of Meduse will be made one and the same with the Soul Eater version.
[2] OTL Over Heaven Dio is a version of Dio from a universe where he won and the final boss of the 2015 video game Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven.
[3] Seiya is thrown in here due to being a Karate-Kid esque series about a martial arts student and not space themed ITTL. At least until Rintaro of the Galaxy, the creator's next project, come sout.
[4] Recall ITTL that the Dragonballs don't work the normal way of granting wishing in Dragonboy. Toriyama was free to reinterpret them in this story since it's an alternate universe anyway, Fans will argue if this was better or worse than in the main series with a point being they can just use them to wish dead characters back, which is a pro or a con depending on who you ask. It brings back fan favorite characters to do more with them but also cheapens death.
More like the SJSU(Shonen Jump shared universe). But a Shonen Jump Cinematic universe isn't out of the question. I'm not sure yet but the most likely catalyst would be if Dragonball: Evolution or its equivalent is successful. I feel like technology in Film needs to catch up a bit before we dive into adaptations of most of the stuff we see in Shonen Anime. Otherwise its done through unconvincing CGI.
As for Final Fantasy VI, the game is a cartridge exclusive due to Square wanting to do one last major exclusive for the cartridge SNES before shifting their support to the SNES-CD. The game has an open-ended world of ruin, has no censorship and includes the Esper system of the OTL ROM Hack FF6: Brave New World. It also has no evade bug and no vanish-doom bug.
As for the SNES-CD itself, it launches in Spring 1993. Cartridge games were required to be made by all SNES-CD publishers in 1993, 1994 and 1995 (the rule was dropped in 1996).
As for the SNES-CD itself, it launches in Spring 1993. Cartridge games were required to be made by all SNES-CD publishers in 1993, 1994 and 1995 (the rule was dropped in 1996).
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