Because of the large amount of Alternate Histories it may take awhile to get to that. So In the meantime I will release some Marvel Movies and TV show stuff. I decided Spider-Man, X-Men and possibly Fantastic Four will get their own posts. I will be retconning the 80's X-Men since having it kind of restricts the 2000s X-Men Movies by taking their plots away.
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Spider-Man: Movies & TV: Part One(1962-1999)
I decided to give Spider-Man, X-Men, and Fantastic Four their own posts for space reasons. Pictures will be added. Most of the information is previously state, though some stuff for the Spider-Man 1990's Animated series is included.
Stan Lee as J.Jonah Jameson.
Spider-Man: Movies & TV Part
1962-1999
Spider-Man was created in 1962 by Stan lee and Steve Ditko and quickly became an iconic character. He would make his first foray into animation was the now meme worthy Spider-Man 1966 Television show, which frequently reused animation. This Spider-Man would appear in other series around the time, including multiple episodes of the Jessica Drew Spider-Woman series running at the same time. The series received a spiritual sequel in Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends in 1981. The late 1977s led to the Web slinger's foray into live action. Overseas in live action Spider-Man series was created, serving as the inspiration for the Sentai genre as the hero would battle monsters and summon a giant robot. A live action American show was also released, which starred 15 year old actor Tom cruise, who was a bus boy in New York at the time, making him the first actor to play Spider-Man. Born in 1962, he was as old as Spider-Man was and the show was written around him being a teenager in High School trying to balance a Superhero life. Stan Lee got his dream chance to play J.Jonah Jameson in the series.Stan Lee as J.Jonah Jameson.
Spider-Man: Movies & TV Part
1962-1999
Roger Corman was approached to do a Spider-Man movie but the brief option expired. Marvel then offered Spider-Man to Cannon Films with Tobe Hooper to Direct. Hooper was currently working on Invaders From Mars and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and so was unavailable. The heads of Cannon films, Golan and Globus then went to writer Leslie Stevens, creator of The Outer Limits, and it became clear they had not ever heard or even bothered to research the character, just made assumptions they believed were right. In Stevens' story, a corporate scientist intentionally subjects ID-badge photographer Peter Parker to radioactive bombardment, transforming him into a hairy, suicidal, eight-armed monster. This human tarantula refuses to join the scientist's new master-race of mutants, battling a succession of mutations kept in a basement laboratory. Naturally, Stan Lee pulled the plug on this version and had a new screenplay written by Ted Mewsom and John Brancato, which introduced Doctor Octopus, who is created in the same accident, an explosion that radiates a Spider that bites Peter. Doctor Octopus attempts to recreate the experiment, an effort to gain the Fifth Force, threatening to engulf New York and the world. Joseph Zito, who had directed Cannon's successful Chuck Norris film Invasion USA, replaced Tobe Hooper. The new director hired Barney Cohen to rewrite the script. Cohen, creator of TV's Sabrina the Teenage Witch and Forever Knight, added action scenes, a non-canonical gesture for the villain, gave Doc Ock the catch phrase, "Okey-dokey", and altered his goal from the Fifth Force to a quest for anti-gravity. Producer Golan (using his pen name "Joseph Goldman") then made a minor polish to Cohen's rewrite, which removed the "Okey-dokey". Zito scouted locations and studio facilities in both the U.S. and Europe, and oversaw storyboard breakdowns supervised by Harper Goff. Cannon planned to make the film on the then-substantial budget of between $15 and $20 million.
Zito cast actor/stunt man Scott Leva as Spider-Man's stunt double. Bob Hoskins was to play Doctor Octopus. Stan Lee wanted to reprise his role as J.Jonah Jameson. Lauren Bacall and Katharine Hepburn were approached for the role of Aunt May with Hepburn winning out. Peter Cushing was cast as Justin Hammer, a corrupt Businessman who incurs the wrath of Doctor Octopus. Adolph Caesar was cast as a Police Detective later revealed to be named George Stacy, who was to be killed by Doctor Octopus in the film. Scott Leva continued to promote the film until it was eventually dropped when during a meeting with Stan Lee intended to convince James Cameron to direct an X-Men film but instead convinced him to direct Spider-Man.
Poster of the Spider-Man Movie.
Production began on James Cameron's Spider-Man. Toward the end of shooting True Lies, Variety carried the announcement that Carolco Pictures had received a completed screenplay from James Cameron. This script bore the names of James Cameron, John Brancato, Ted Newsom, Barry Cohen and "Joseph Goldman(OTL this was a confusion of Manaheim Golan's pen name, and Marvel Executive Joseph Calamari). Arnold Shwarzenegger was originally to play as Doctor Octopus but was dropped from the script, later appearing in the second film. Cameron instead introduced Electro and Sandman Cameron's treatment or "Scriptment" as he put it, was 57 pages long. Electro and Sandman were villains. The original script renamed the characters. Electro was an evil billionaire named Carlton Strand and The Sandman was simply named Boyd. This was changed to be more comic accurate(Electro being Max Dillon and Sandman being Flint Marko), and Norman Osborn was added as a villain, though he did not don the Goblin costume, simply fulfilling the corrupt businessman role. Electro was played by Lance Henrickson. Sandman was played by Michael Biehn. All three villains, with the exception of Osborn, being actors Cameron had used in the Terminator. Maggie Smith played Aunt May, Robin Lively played Mary Jane Watson. Stan Lee wanted to return as J.Jonah Jameson but Cameron replaced him with R.Lee Ermey.
R.Lee Ermey as J.Jonah Jameson before Mustache.
The Sandman's origin is depicted in what is considered one of the best scenes in the film. He is accidentally exposed to Philadelphia Experiment-style bilocation and atom-mixing, getting caught in a nuclear blast on a beach. He then struggles to put himself back together and grab a locket with his daughter's picture. He is then forced to serve Osborn who had a hand in the test that created him.
Osborn attempts to recruit Peter Parker(Leonardo DiCaprio) and uses the Sandman and Electro as his enforcers. Peter also begins to commit to a relationship with Mary Jane, who he reveals his identity to. The film uses profanity and has a scene of Spider-Man and Mary Jane having sex on the Brooklyn Bridge. These elements gave the film an R Rating. Spider-Man in the film has organic webbing. The villain tempts Spider-Man into joining his "master race" of mutants; from the original screenplay and rewrite, weird electrical storms causing blackouts, freak magnetic events and bi-location; from the Ethan Wiley draft, a villain addicted to toxic super-powers and multiple experimental spiders, one of which escapes and bites Peter, the bite causing a hallucinatory nightmare invoking Franz Kafka's The Metamorphosis; from the Frank LaLoggia script, a blizzard of stolen cash fluttering down onto surprised New Yorkers; and from the Neil Ruttenberg screenplay, a criminal assault on the New York Stock Exchange.
Tying into the Films was a 1993 Spider-Man Animated series, which lasted until 1999 and aired on Fox Kids. The series crossed over with the other Marvel shows of the time such as X-Men, Avengers, Fantastic Four and Hulk. The show notably adapted the 1984 storyline Secret Wars(ITTL different and planned characters are involved including Mister Sinister and the Hulk. Other differences in this version include appearances by Puma, Beetle, Richard Fisk becoming the Rose, and guest appearances by Ghost Rider(who got his own series), and the Hulk. A sequel series of sorts was released as Spider-Man 2099(OTL the original idea that became Spider-Man Unlimited). The Show famously killed off Mary Jane Watson and crossed over with Disney's Gargoyles, in an episode written by Dwayne McDuffie. It has enjoyed a nostalgic type of popularity though is not as meme worthy as the 66' series. Having one notable instant of Spider-Man shouting "Electro! I'll chase you to the Ends of the Earth !"
A Spider-Man sequel: The Amazing Spider-Man was released in 1996. The film introduced Doctor Octopus, with Shwarzenegger in the role. Concepts of the original draft for the Spider-Man film were used, including Doctor Octopus building a weapon. Norman Osborn, the Sandman and Electro returned. Since New Line Cinema was working on a Venom Movie, it was decided Doctor Octopus would be working on creating the Symbiote as a way to benefit humanity. Eddie Brock was introduced in the film as Peter Parker's childhood friend. Their parents worked on the Symbiote together before Osborn stole it away from them and Doc Ock now seeks to finish what they started. Peter Parker gained the Black Suit. Its power is shockingly demonstrated when after an earlier battle in which Spider-Man suffers a humiliating defeat by Doc Ock, Electro and Sandman, he has a rematch with the Black Suit and easily defeats them, using their powers against them, only for it to later be revealed Peter was asleep the entire fight and the suit was controlling him. Peter eventually has to free himself from the suit, which infects Eddie and turns him into Venom. Eddie Brock was played by Eminem(who even recorded a song for the soundtrack), however when he was Venom, to demonstrate his physicality, and his deeper voice, he was played by Dolph Lundgren.
Movie Poster for Venom.
In 1997, David S. Goyer finished the script for Venom for New Line Cinema. Dolph Lundgren reprised his role without Eminem with the explanation that the Symbiote had transformed Eddie completely.. The main villain of the film was Carnage, who's origin was told in the film. Venom was released in 1998.
Finally 1999, saw the release of The Spectacular Spider-Man. The Film brought back Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Electro, Venom and Carnage, with Norman Osborn finally donning the Green Goblin mantle, completing the Sinister Six, and attempting to get revenge on Spider-Man, with Venom switching sides part way through the movie. In the final battle, most of the villains were killed. Despite the end of both trilogies, this was not the end of Marvel's presence in Superhero Films. For as DC was beginning to head towards their big onscreen team up, Marvel wasn't too far behind.
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Does House of 1000 Corpses end up being distributed by Universal Studios like they originally intend to or ended up being distributed by MGM instead?
It is distributed by Universal Studios and ties in with their Halloween Horror Nights Haunted House designed by Zombie, which keeps the same name. The film is also more disturbing ITTL due to many cut parts being kept in.
I see, also I know this'll never happen but I could see Universal making their own shared horror universe kinda like the Universal Monsters in the 2000s ITTL.
That is a plan to happen ITTL with Universal taking a different approach. Not making big budget action movies but Low Budget Horror Movies of their Monsters given to up and coming Horror movie Directors. Robbert Eggers, the director of the Witch, directing a Frankenstein period piece which is told from the perspective of a villager. who hears but doesn't believe the rumors of the scientist robbing bodies until his daughter is killed by the scientist's Monster. He forms an angry mob to hunt it down but realizes too late the Monster is a victim of the mad scientist as well. The Shape of Water being an actual Creature from the Black Lagoon Movie, with a connection to the Cthulhu mythos via The Shadow over Innsmouth. Mike Flannagan, director of Hush, directing the Invisible Man. Jordan Peele directing the Wolfman move, with a black Wolfman. Imagine something similar to the Sunken Place scenes from Get Out but actually about the Wolf Man's human identity(Who is black in the film)being helpless as he watches his Wolf form murder people.
Interesting, also was the Creature from the Black Lagoon film directed by John Carpenter or no was it a different director?
Well then, for my ideas, here's one of them to go by.
Nintendo decides to not give animation or movie rights for Americans (yay, we avoid that terrible live-action SMB movie!) but allow some Japanese company make Super Mario animation series.
Actually my plan was not so much they don't exist but rather I actually wanna take a shot at making Video Game movies better. Super Mario Bros actually has one possible point where Harold Ramis could have directed the film. It's a step towards improving it if he's given full creative control and completely changes the film.
X-Men Film Series(2000-2020)
X-Men Film Series
Around 1989, Stan Lee and Chris Claremont entered in talks with Carolco Pictures and Lightstorm Entertainment to make a film adaptation of the X-Men comic book series, with James Cameron as producer, Kathryn Bigelow as director and Gary Goldman as writer. Bob Hoskins was originally going to play Wolverine, but both realized that if there were ever crossovers, Bob Hoskins playing Doctor Octopus(which he was still possibly slated to do if the Spider-Man film was made but he was dropped) and Wolverine would have been confusing. Instead they had the ingenious idea of hiring actor Paul D'amato, who had inspired Wolverine's creation, after his appearance in the Canadian comedy Slapshot, to play Wolverine himself. Actress Angela Bassett played Storm. However, Stan Lee himself derailed the film's creation when he and Cameron talked and Lee piques Cameron's interest in making a Spider-Man film instead.
Designs for several characters in the first X-Men film
X-Men(2000)
The year 2000 saw the release of another attempt at making an X-Men movie, simply titled X-Men. The first in a new series of films intended to connect into one big universe. Released by the newly renamed 21st Century Fox. The Film cast Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, James Marsden as Cyclops, Famkee Janssen as Jean Grey, Natalie Portman as Rogue(OTL she almost did but did not due to scheduling conflicts with The Phantom Menace, which has a different release date ITTL), Halley Barry was cast as Storm. Michael Jackson now infamously auditioned for the role of Charles Xavier before Patrick Stewart got the part. Stewart has an amusing history with the character. A friend of his called the character resemblance to his attention. He is said to have looked at a cover of X-Men and asked "What am I doing on a Comic Book Cover?". Ian McKellen played Magneto. Liev Shreiber was cast as Sabertooth, who was given lines taunting Wolverine about his past. Lucy Liu was cast as Mystique. Keanu Reeves was cast as Gambit. Bryan Singer was chosen to direct. John Williams scored the music. The Blob and Pyro were added as members of the Brotherhood while the X-Men gained Beast, played by Jason Flemying. The X-Men each wore distinctive costumes.
Andrew Kevin Walker wrote the script, which had Xavier recruiting Logan and several other mutants to assist Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, Beast, and Angel AKA the original X-Men team after they were defeated and captured. They fight the Brotherhood of Mutants, which consisted of Magneto, Sabretooth, Mystique, Toad, the Blob(played by Dave Harbour), and Pyro who are trying to conquer New York City, while Henry Peter Gyrich and Bolivar Trask attack the X-Men and Brotherhood with Robotic Sentinels. The script focused on the rivalry between Wolverine and Cyclops, as well as the latter's self-doubt as a field leader and the love triangle aspect. Part of the backstory invented for Magneto both dived into his history as a Holocaust survivor and made him the cause of the Chernobyl disaster. The script also featured the X-Copter and the Danger Room. The script went through a rewrite by Joss Whedon, but this version was dropped. He had added a romance between Wolverine and Storm that was unneeded and added a line perceived as ridiculous. "Do you know what happens to a Toad when it gets struck by Lightning? The same thing that happens to Everything Else"(Yes OTL that line was added by Joss Whedon). The Music was scored by John Williams. Rogue is introduced in a somewhat controversial scene where a trucker attempts to rape her(she is afraid of kill him) and she is saved by Wolverine. It also features a scene in which Jean Grey loses control of her powers during a Senate hearing, revealing herself to be a mutant.
Cassandra Nova in X-Men 2.
X-Men 2(2003)
X-Men 2 introduced Nightcrawler, played by Alan Cummings, and Shaquille O'Neal as Bishop. Ray Park returned as Toad(and got into a fight with Nightcrawler while he and Storm were trying to rescue the Mutant Kids from Weapon X ) as did Liev Shrieber as Sabertooth. This time working for William Stryker. Other mutants aiding Stryker were added, including Lady Deathstrike and Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool to make the team, referred to as Team X, capable of opposing the X-Men. Deadpool notably does not appear to have Mutant abilities. The film also introduced another antagonist: Cassandra Nova. While she is not the twin sister of Xavier as in the original script, she is instead a powerful psychic, who tricks Xavier into building Cerebro, after Weapon X raided the X Mansion and found only Xavier could use the Cerebro there. To rescue Xavier, Storm and Nightcrawler find themselves in a middle of a psychic duel between Xavier and Nova, which is so intense they are forced to flee the dark Cerebro after rescuing Xavier. Cassandra Nova then attempts to end all of Humanity and is seconds from suceeding before Magneto kills her by crushing her head with the Cerebro Helmet Cassandra is wearing, implying Magneto may have had a change of heart. Stryker's plan was evidently to use the seemingly loyal Cassandra to kill all mutants, during which several Mutants are seen being impacted by this such as Beast, Gambit,Marrow, and Xerox(Multiple Man OTL).
"Mastermind's "Illusion" appearance in X-Men 3.
X-Men 3(2006)
2006 saw the release of X-Men 3. Summer Glau was cast as Kitty Pryde. To better understand the role she went seeking advice from Joss Whedon, who had written for X-Men and she had studied with the comic issues, including those written by him. Mike Vogel played Warren Worthington III. Bryan Singer returned to direct. Michael Dougherty, screenwriter of X-Men 2, returned to write the script. The film had Jean Grey becoming possessed by the Cosmic Phoenix Force after an X-Men space mission crashes into a lake. Cyclops and Jean are the center of the film, and they are entangled in a three-way war for control of the Phoenix between the X-Men, the Brotherhood of Mutants and the newly introduced Hellfire Club, which is led by an older Emma Frost (played by Sigourney Weaver). Peter Wyngarde played Mastermind, who his performance as Jason King had inspired. In the film Mastermind was manipulating Jean Grey to gain access into the Hellfire Club. On the X-Men side, the entire cast returned including Gambit (Keanu Reeves) and Nightcrawler(Alan Cummings) returned along with a new face in Dazzler (Beverley Mahood). The Hellfire Club release the Phoenix while trying to control it and are killed by it. In the end, Jean commits suicide to save them all by telekinetically forcing Scott to look at her and then removing his visor, and after her death she turned into a divine being a la 2001: A Space Odyssey. The Danger Room is featured in the film, including a scene where Bobby and Kitty are training and are seemingly killed by a Sentinel, leaving two skeletons, only for it to be shown to only be a simulation.
Still from Hulk vs Wolverine
Hulk vs Wolverine(2009)
After the conclusion of the trilogy, it was decided to give Wolverine his own film, as he had largely blended into the ensemble cast and his popularity meant he could likely support his own movie. The Films were also criticized for having too many characters and this way it seemed that situation could be remedied. The desire to mix Marvel Franchises was brought up and an idea for a cancelled Animated Marvel Movie was put forth. Hulk vs Wolverine was greenlit. Chronologically the film was a prequel to the X-Men film series, just as the studio had wanted. The plot concerned Weapon X trying to capture the Hulk. Wolverine was sent after the Hulk and ran into his old team. Michael C.Hall was cast as William Stryker. While Hugh Jackman, Liev Shreiber, and Ryan Reynolds reprised their roles.Around 1989, Stan Lee and Chris Claremont entered in talks with Carolco Pictures and Lightstorm Entertainment to make a film adaptation of the X-Men comic book series, with James Cameron as producer, Kathryn Bigelow as director and Gary Goldman as writer. Bob Hoskins was originally going to play Wolverine, but both realized that if there were ever crossovers, Bob Hoskins playing Doctor Octopus(which he was still possibly slated to do if the Spider-Man film was made but he was dropped) and Wolverine would have been confusing. Instead they had the ingenious idea of hiring actor Paul D'amato, who had inspired Wolverine's creation, after his appearance in the Canadian comedy Slapshot, to play Wolverine himself. Actress Angela Bassett played Storm. However, Stan Lee himself derailed the film's creation when he and Cameron talked and Lee piques Cameron's interest in making a Spider-Man film instead.
Designs for several characters in the first X-Men film
X-Men(2000)
The year 2000 saw the release of another attempt at making an X-Men movie, simply titled X-Men. The first in a new series of films intended to connect into one big universe. Released by the newly renamed 21st Century Fox. The Film cast Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, James Marsden as Cyclops, Famkee Janssen as Jean Grey, Natalie Portman as Rogue(OTL she almost did but did not due to scheduling conflicts with The Phantom Menace, which has a different release date ITTL), Halley Barry was cast as Storm. Michael Jackson now infamously auditioned for the role of Charles Xavier before Patrick Stewart got the part. Stewart has an amusing history with the character. A friend of his called the character resemblance to his attention. He is said to have looked at a cover of X-Men and asked "What am I doing on a Comic Book Cover?". Ian McKellen played Magneto. Liev Shreiber was cast as Sabertooth, who was given lines taunting Wolverine about his past. Lucy Liu was cast as Mystique. Keanu Reeves was cast as Gambit. Bryan Singer was chosen to direct. John Williams scored the music. The Blob and Pyro were added as members of the Brotherhood while the X-Men gained Beast, played by Jason Flemying. The X-Men each wore distinctive costumes.
Andrew Kevin Walker wrote the script, which had Xavier recruiting Logan and several other mutants to assist Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, Beast, and Angel AKA the original X-Men team after they were defeated and captured. They fight the Brotherhood of Mutants, which consisted of Magneto, Sabretooth, Mystique, Toad, the Blob(played by Dave Harbour), and Pyro who are trying to conquer New York City, while Henry Peter Gyrich and Bolivar Trask attack the X-Men and Brotherhood with Robotic Sentinels. The script focused on the rivalry between Wolverine and Cyclops, as well as the latter's self-doubt as a field leader and the love triangle aspect. Part of the backstory invented for Magneto both dived into his history as a Holocaust survivor and made him the cause of the Chernobyl disaster. The script also featured the X-Copter and the Danger Room. The script went through a rewrite by Joss Whedon, but this version was dropped. He had added a romance between Wolverine and Storm that was unneeded and added a line perceived as ridiculous. "Do you know what happens to a Toad when it gets struck by Lightning? The same thing that happens to Everything Else"(Yes OTL that line was added by Joss Whedon). The Music was scored by John Williams. Rogue is introduced in a somewhat controversial scene where a trucker attempts to rape her(she is afraid of kill him) and she is saved by Wolverine. It also features a scene in which Jean Grey loses control of her powers during a Senate hearing, revealing herself to be a mutant.
Cassandra Nova in X-Men 2.
X-Men 2(2003)
X-Men 2 introduced Nightcrawler, played by Alan Cummings, and Shaquille O'Neal as Bishop. Ray Park returned as Toad(and got into a fight with Nightcrawler while he and Storm were trying to rescue the Mutant Kids from Weapon X ) as did Liev Shrieber as Sabertooth. This time working for William Stryker. Other mutants aiding Stryker were added, including Lady Deathstrike and Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool to make the team, referred to as Team X, capable of opposing the X-Men. Deadpool notably does not appear to have Mutant abilities. The film also introduced another antagonist: Cassandra Nova. While she is not the twin sister of Xavier as in the original script, she is instead a powerful psychic, who tricks Xavier into building Cerebro, after Weapon X raided the X Mansion and found only Xavier could use the Cerebro there. To rescue Xavier, Storm and Nightcrawler find themselves in a middle of a psychic duel between Xavier and Nova, which is so intense they are forced to flee the dark Cerebro after rescuing Xavier. Cassandra Nova then attempts to end all of Humanity and is seconds from suceeding before Magneto kills her by crushing her head with the Cerebro Helmet Cassandra is wearing, implying Magneto may have had a change of heart. Stryker's plan was evidently to use the seemingly loyal Cassandra to kill all mutants, during which several Mutants are seen being impacted by this such as Beast, Gambit,Marrow, and Xerox(Multiple Man OTL).
"Mastermind's "Illusion" appearance in X-Men 3.
X-Men 3(2006)
2006 saw the release of X-Men 3. Summer Glau was cast as Kitty Pryde. To better understand the role she went seeking advice from Joss Whedon, who had written for X-Men and she had studied with the comic issues, including those written by him. Mike Vogel played Warren Worthington III. Bryan Singer returned to direct. Michael Dougherty, screenwriter of X-Men 2, returned to write the script. The film had Jean Grey becoming possessed by the Cosmic Phoenix Force after an X-Men space mission crashes into a lake. Cyclops and Jean are the center of the film, and they are entangled in a three-way war for control of the Phoenix between the X-Men, the Brotherhood of Mutants and the newly introduced Hellfire Club, which is led by an older Emma Frost (played by Sigourney Weaver). Peter Wyngarde played Mastermind, who his performance as Jason King had inspired. In the film Mastermind was manipulating Jean Grey to gain access into the Hellfire Club. On the X-Men side, the entire cast returned including Gambit (Keanu Reeves) and Nightcrawler(Alan Cummings) returned along with a new face in Dazzler (Beverley Mahood). The Hellfire Club release the Phoenix while trying to control it and are killed by it. In the end, Jean commits suicide to save them all by telekinetically forcing Scott to look at her and then removing his visor, and after her death she turned into a divine being a la 2001: A Space Odyssey. The Danger Room is featured in the film, including a scene where Bobby and Kitty are training and are seemingly killed by a Sentinel, leaving two skeletons, only for it to be shown to only be a simulation.
Still from Hulk vs Wolverine
Hulk vs Wolverine(2009)
Promotional Art of Bryan Cranston as Mister Sinister
X-Men: First Class(2011)
X-Men: First Class was a film directed by Matthew Vaughn and set during the 60's depicting the original team of X-Men. Charlie Rowe was cast as the young Charles Xavier and Aaron Taylor Johnson was cast as Erik Lensherr. Benjamin Walker was cast as Dr.Hank McCoy AKA Beast. Taron Egerton was cast as Scott Summers, a fresh new talent(here he finishes Acting School a bit earlier to be in the film). Chloe Moretz was cast as Jean Grey. Alice Eve was cast as Emma Frost, as the Hellfire Club was chosen to be the film's antagonists. Bryan Cranston was cast as the villain Mister Sinister, who is killed in the film's climax, leading to Emma Forst succeeding him as the Hellfire's Club's leader. Matthew Vaughn cast Dexter Fletcher as the Man in Black, and Peter Wyngarde as Mastermind, though with effects(referred to as illusions) to make him looked younger(OTL Vaughn was falsely told he had died). Azazel, a member of the Hellfire Club, has a notably more demonic appearance ITTL.
The Wolverine(2013)
Guillermo Del Toro, a fan of Frank Miller's Wolverine series, made an adaptation simply titled The Wolverine. This story included Jessica Biel as Viper and was set in Japan. The main antagonist was the Silver Samurai.
Movie Poster for Days of Future Past(OTL Art done by Mark Kelly).
X-Men: Days of Future Past(2014)
X-Men: Days of Future Past was to date the most ambitious X-Men Film, hoping to tie into the growing Marvel Cinematic Universe. The film opened in a dark future where the Sentinels had conquered North America. The Mutants and Humans that survived lived in Concentration Camps. It was notably mentioned that several Superheroes outside the X-Men films such as Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, and the Avengers had been killed. The X-Men employ time travel to send Kitty Pryde and Bishop back in time. They accidentally first arrive in the 1960's and appear before the 60's era Hellfire Club, who are attempting to assassinate and replace JFK with their newest member Mystique, but the arrival of Bishop and Kitty inadvertently foil this plan. They accidentally bringing back a Future Sentinel that shockingly kills many of the members of the Hellfire Club to survive in X-Men: First Class. The scene while surprising, serves to demonstrate how dangerous a single Future Sentinel is. Fortunately the Hellfire Club, along with Bishop and Kitty Pryde, are able to destroy the Sentinel, but its remains are seen being discovered by Bolivar Trask, who takes it for study, seeing how effective it was against the Mutants. Bishop and Kitty then try again and this time arrive in the present time of the X-Men. They then find and recruit Deadpool, as he is somehow still alive in the Future they come from, along with other X-Men( Jubilee and Rockslide being examples different from OTL along with an adult Franklin Richards who was in the original Comic).
Bishop and Kitty plan to break Magneto out of Prison, since his power over magnetism means he would be the best threat against the Sentinels and recruit Cain Marko AKA the Juggernaut(played by Hosh Helman), to break him out of Prison. Once freed, Magneto meets with a new Brotherhood, including Quicksilver(played by Evan Peters) and Scarlet Witch(Elisabeth Olsen), who unknown to all three, are his children. Naturally this brings them into conflict with the X-Men, which Kitty goes to and explains about the future and that preventing the assassination of Senator Robert Kelly, Senator Stern and Charles Xavier on Halloween due to a Brotherhood attack. Bishop infiltrates the Brotherhood hoping to bring the group down from the inside while Kitty warned the X-Men, who are joined by Betsy Braddock AKA Psylocke(Who is British ITTL, rather than British in a Japanese body). Bishop discovers Mystique is infiltrating the Brotherhood and pulls a gun on her, creating chaos and, not trusting the Brotherhood, she flees to the Xavier Mansion and is patched up by Beast, though she escapes and still tries to carry out her plan of killing Kelly and Stern at least, this time with a gun rather than killing Xavier as well. She is prevented from doing this, by Rogue, who she is revealed to be the adopted mother of. As soon as the Assassinations are prevented, Kitty Pryde and Bishop disappear, implying the future they came from no longer exists. The chaos in Washington D.C. also sees a cameo by Stan Lee, where Deadpool rescues him and seems to recognize him from somewhere but doesn't know where. The X-Men discover the true group responsible for the attacks, a cult like group known as the Friends of Humanity, of which Bolivar Trask and Robert Kelly are members, but there is a greater threat revealed: Hydra.
Hydra, the main antagonists of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, released the same year and the Friends of Humanity have allied to eliminate all threats to their rule and in the Days of Future Past timeline, succeeded in launching an attack that wiped out most of the heroes that would have stopped them(the plan foiled in Captain America: The Winter Soldier). The attack at the Capitol was one such attempt to eliminate potential threats, though ironically the X-Men being involved means the Hydra collaborator Senator Stern was one of the few people killed. Wolverine is seen meeting with Captain America( A scene also shown in Captain America: The Winter Soldier), their friendship having been established in Captain America where Wolverine is a member of the Howling Commandos. Magneto is also shown to respect him as Captain America and Wolverine saved him from Auschwitz as a child. With Captain America being told of Hydra's plan, the Avengers move in to thwart it while the X-Men move to stop the Sentinels and the Friends of Humanity, and the main Sentinel factory of Master Mold. Xavier's survival allows him to use his abilities on Senator Robert Kelly and Bolivar Trask, which allows them to see that he genuinely believes in a better world for Humanity and Mutantkind and they turn on their creation, the Master Mold. Trask sacrifices his life to destroy the Master Mold while Senator Kelly is rescued. The threat of the Sentinels having been ended.
While all seems fine in the aftermath, the Post Credits Scene has Bishop and Kitty Pryde return to their own time and find that nothing has changed. The Sentinels are still in control. They reunite with the resistance and it is theorized that they succeeded in altering the past but doing so created an alternate universe. The New Leader of the Sentinels in the future is revealed to be a powerful being sitting on a throne..named Apocalypse.
Promotional image of Idris Elba in part of the Apocalypse costume
Deadpool(2016)
Deadpool was intended to be a breather film after the intensity of Days of Future Past Ryan Reynolds returned as the title character. Olivia Munn was cast as Vanessa Carlyle. Daniel Cudmore reprised his role as Colossus. The film was directed by Robert Rodriquez. Several X-Men appeared including Hugh Jackman, but the focus was on Colossus, the straight man Cannonball and Negasonic Teenage Warhead. The film's antagonists are Ajax and his enforcers Garrison Kane, Wyre and Sluggo. The film begins with Deadpool fighting on a highway and flashes back to tell his origin, which happened to him recently, him having been shown to be a normal human in previous X-Men films. The film was Rated R and poked fun at Superhero movies, for example Deadpool's mask was revealed to be a turned inside out Spider-Man mask. It also included a joke about Wade and the bar patrons betting on how Amy Whinehouse would die(OTL this was almost included but then she did die). Patch also appears only to be killed by Ajax's gang when they break into the bar looking for Wade. Another Deadpool character to appear was Bob, who is a member of HYDRA, which is allied with Ajax.
The film had a Sequel Hook revealing that Ajax was just a puppet working for the real mastermind, Dr.Killbrew. Another gag is inserted as a stinger where Deadpool finds Beast shitting on his lawn and chases him off. Actor Nicholas Hoult, absolutely loved the idea and was brought in to play Beast for the brief scene. Other end credis scenes include an 80's Knight Ride parody and an Official Honest Trailers episode of Deadpool itself.
X-Men: Age of Apocalypse
Taylor Swift's appearance as Dazzler in X-Men: Age of Apocalypse.
Old Man Logan(2017)
Old Man Logan was not another breather between X-Men films. To many it ended an era as Hugh Jackman was leaving the role of Wolverine, with Tom Hardy being his appointed successor. Old Man Logan was his last hurrah(though he would return to the role on certain occasions). The film took place after the dark future in X-Men: Age of Apocalypse(sort of...Apocalypse is only seen on a ruined poster in one scene, otherwise it is open to interpretation if this is the same timeline). It was based off the comic story of the same name. After Apocalypse's Death, several former villains that had worked for him had risen up and seized land. Wolverine was now going by Logan and had a family. The wasteland of the United States had been carved up among four Supervillains. The first of these was the Hulk and his family. The Hulk had gone mad from the Nuclear weapons uses and now called himself the Maestro, ruling over the territory where Logan and his family lived. Other territories were controlled by a New Kingpin of crime, who had taken over part of the country previously led by Magneto after his death. Another territory was taken by Doctor Doom another by the Red Skull. Logan needed to pay rent to the Hulk's children, and in order to do so took up a job from an old and now blind Hawkeye to bring a young mutant named Laura(played by Millie Bobbie Brown) from California to Washington across the entire country. Logan mentions that he wants to die, and carries with him an Adamantium bullet and a gun, yet is held back from doing the deed by his family needing him.
Hawkeye, Logan and Laura set out. The group encounter many dangers such as a gang based off the Ghost Rider, Moleman's monsters, and a few villains. The three help the rescue the granddaughter of Spider-Man from the new Kingpin, killing him in the process. On their journey, Logan reveals that he was transformed into a Horseman of Apocalypse and killed several of the X-Men, before breaking free of Apocalypse's control, something which he has never revealed before and still carries the guilt of as it led to Apocalypse's takeover. The group finally make it but it is revealed the SHIELD agents they went to meet actually work for the Red Skull. Hawkeye is killed and Logan and Laura are gunned down. They awake in a trophy room full of the costumes and weapon of various heroes remains and the Red Skull garbed in Captain America's costume. The Red Skull promises to let Laura go if Logan beats him in a fight. Since Logam. Logan is severely beaten and thrown into the trophy case. In a Cinematic scene, he grabs Captain America's shield from the Trophy case and overpowers the Red Skull, using it to decapitate him. He then takes money from the Red Skull's safe, find Laura and is able to fly out of there with her after getting Iron Man's armor, another object in the trophy room, to work. He crashes just outside of his home announces that he has enough money to pay off rent. He has made it just in time. Only to be told be his neighbor that the Hulks got bored and kill his family anyway. he is silent for a moment as his neighbor explains it to him and then calls him Logan. He responds that his name is Wolverine. He then pops his claws. The next few scenes are of Wolverine quickly killing the Hulks like a horror movie monster, along with Laura. Sabertooth, who has been on Logan's trial also arrives and attacks him just as he is about to fight the Hulk. Laura ends up using Wolverine's own Adamantium bullet to kill Sabertooth to save him. Wolverine then crashes the remains of the Fantasticar laced with explosives into the Hulk's home to drag out Bruce Banner. The Hulk and Wolverine fight for a final time, ending with the hulk ripping apart and eating Wolverine. While it appears to be over, the Hulk goes and sits down inside a cave as Laura follows, intent on avenging Wolverine. A single other Hulk, a baby version, is shown to be the only other one still alive. Just then the Hulk feels a great pain and Wolverine bursts out of him, naked and covered in stomach acids. He looks over the corpse and comments "You don't look too good Banner. Musta been something you ate."
In the aftermath, Wolverine buries his family and tells the other neighbors that he is going to take the world back from the villains. They tell him it will be difficult to do alone. He replies he's not doing it alone. He is joined by Laura and then turns around to reveal he is carrying the baby Hulk on his back. He then leaves on his mission Lone Wolf and Cub style.
Deadpool & Cable(2018)
Deadpool & Cable. The Sequel to the successful Deadpool film. Cable returned from his earlier depictions in the franchise. Vanessa was given an extended role as she became the character Copycat. The premise concerned Cable trying to hunt down and kill a boy who was destined to become the next Apocalypse. Deadpool and Vanessa worked to protect the child, who was paired up with The Juggernaut, Black Tom Cassidy, and the Blob(who Deadpool makes Fat Jokes towards such as "You're so fat. You make Jabba the Hutt look like Jabba the Shed." or "You're so fat you make E Honda look like E Sportscar", which harm his relationship with the child as it makes him look as bad as the bullies the kid had to deal with. In order to protect the kid, Deadpool assembles X-Force, a team which is almost completely wiped out due to Deadpool having to guide them through a minefield after they leap off a plane, with only Domino surviving. In the final battle, the Thing of the Fantastic Four shows up to help keep Juggernaut busy.
X4(2020)
By this point it was clear to many the franchise and Fox's ownership of the series was coming to an end. The X-Men and Fantastic Four Film series were to be grouped into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. So they chose to end it with a bang. While ideas for spinoffs focusing on Gambit, Magneto and the New Mutants were pitched. It would be left to see if Marvel would follow through with these concepts. The final Movie for both series was titled simply X4(Which some people mocked as the film was not the 4th X-Men film despite that being implied by the name) and was the crossover between the X-Men and Fantastic Four films that would conclude Fox's time with the characters as they would afterwards belong exclusively to Marvel. The 21st Century Fox logo usually opened with the logo, fading out and emphasizing one letter. In the X-Men movies it was the X. In the Fantastic Four movies it was the F. This film faded into both letters being highlighted, spelling out FX.
The Film's plot involved an event known as an Incursion, which causes one Earth(that of the Days of Future Past Universe) to show up in the sky above the main Marvel Earth. Marvel's Illuminati(which includes Reed Richard and Charles Xavier) converge and discover Old Man Logan on Earth, who tells them that the event was caused by his world's Doctor Doom. The Heroes work to defeat the Future Doom. However it is revealed that if one Earth is not destroyed within 8 hours, both universes will be. This leads to several alien races, including the Skrulls, the Shi'ar, Galactus, the Celestials and Thanos to head towards one of the two Earths to destroy it. Doom is able to briefly gain godlike abilities with the help of a Mutant named Molecule Man, crowning himself God Emperor Doom. It is a final battle with Doom and Reed Richards that has Doom finally reveal that Richards is better than him and would handle the godlike powers better. Molecule Man accepts this and transfers the godlike powers to Richards, depowering Doom. Ships designed by Earth's heroes save as many from the alternate Earth before it is destroyed by Galactus. Many Heroes appear throughout the film, including Daredevil. The film marked Patrick Stewart's retirement from the role of Charles Xavier, who during the film, falls in love with the Shi'ar Queen Lilandra and departs Earth. Magneto, on the path to reformation, joins the X-Men after discovering that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are his children. Finally the film killed off Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, who dies in the final battle after saving several young Mutants. Laura buries him in the woods and before leaving, tilts his cross shaped grave into the form of an X. On this image. The X-Men series came to a close.
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There are. I actually started writing out plans for other comic book series outside of Marvel and DC but decided I should tackle media based on the heroes first. Hence the current string of posts. I started writing up posts for licensed comics such a Sonic the Hedgehog and My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic first but that would mean covering the original franchises first. Comic series like The Boys and Invincible are planned to be covered afterwards.
Both had planned Movie Adaptations for awhile(though the Invincible one is still planned). For the Boys the Comic is different. Garth Ennis is less cynical in general and so the series has less of the off putting moments while maintaining the central concept. The Main characters are also non powered like in the Amazon Series. The series started as part of Wildstorm and then Dynamite Entertainment(though it may go to another comic company since multiple expressed interest). Wildstorm was dissolved and DC wasn't comfortable technically owning such an anti-Superhero series, though the creators did comment that DC did a lot to help them find another company. The reason this is being kept is the creators commented that this move was a good thing as Dynamite Entertainment gave them more freedom.
When it comes to adaptations a Movie adaptation is made by Columbia Pictures in 2008. Karl Urban can still play Billy Butcher(though without the beard. He's a Comic Fan so its not too far fetched he'd audition), and Simon Pegg plays Hughie(the character his appearance is based on in the Comics. He doesn't do so in the Amazon series because he saw himself as too old, so he played Hughie's Dad instead). I'm uncertain when the film would end currently as its unlikely it would kill off Homelander in the first movie, though The Deep and A-Train are likely to be killed off in the first film since they'd arguably be the main antagonists, along with possibly Jack from Jupiter. The Sequel would be done by Paramount Pictures. The second Studio to express interest. This would parallel the Boys Comic being picked up by two different Comic Companies. After that it could become an Amazon Series.
For Invincible, there are less changes to the Comic, sans a few things like Gay being used as an insult. There is a film adaptation made first and then an animated Series(Just FYI this timeline has a history of R Rated Animated Series. Basically think about how the 80's had Animated Series based on Rambo, Alien, Robocop, and Highlander but ITTL those Animated Series are hard TV-MA, think something like Spawn: the Animated Series), so Invincible isn't too out of place. Keep JK Simmons but with some effects to make him look more buff, keeping Steven Yeun, and having Ed Harris play Cecil Stedman. The film ends with Omniman departing Earth.
A Minor example of a butterfly effect but the Amazon Sponsored episode of Death Battle, which OTL was a Battle Royale of the Seven is instead Omniman vs Homelander. Whoever loses Amazon wins since both shows are being promoted. They also have the resources to make it a Live Action Death Battle. The fight is also somewhat closer than it would be OTL due to both appearing in films.
One idea I had early on was to swap both shows. The Boys is Animated and Invincible is Live Action. Honestly though both work in their current formats. The Boys is about normal people fighting Superheroes and the live action budget means they can only show powers occasionally. Live Action Superhero shows suffer from budget problems when depicting Superpowers so often but the Boys has the built in reason that the protagonists cannot fight the Seven directly because the Seven would kill them. If it was animated then this aspect would be gone. The Invincible World on the other hand is closer to the DC Universe and has lots of characters which would make it expensive to do in live action.