I intended the next topic to be more about scientific thought but it morphed more unto social tendencies and thought but it still works. But before going on I want to make a few more points about film.
The montage, also known as the Rocky training sequence, might not be developed until much, much later. Why? Well because Soviet propaganda will be not come into being. And it was the commie filmmakers who figured out how to make the montage work, and that audiences could relate one image to the next.
Or… the other possibility could be that Hollywood cinema might look like Soviet cinema. It is very likely that after the failure of the Bolshevik uprising pro-communist talent in Russia will flee Russia and settle down in the more socialist friendly US. Whichever the case we can assume that the Rocky saga will not exist anyway.
Also it is mentioned that the Confederacy had a film industry based in Florida. These studios are likely to survive and produce independent films, which will probably remain popular amongst ex-Confederate audiences.
Ok moving on Social Thought
In OTL the prevailing anthropological thought leading up to WWI was that civilization progressed linearly. This mixed with Social Darwinism gave the perfect justification for the scramble for Africa and other colonialist ventures. People did believe that Europeans were higher on the evolutionary ladder than Africans, Southeast Asians, etc; this was true even within serious scientific discourse. Past WWI people became somewhat uncomfortable with the idea that civilization progressed linearly; after all if this was the case, why would civilization cause such devastation? Nevertheless Social Darwinism continued through the interwar period culminating in Nazi ideology. With the defeat of the Nazis and the end of WWII both ideologies were shelved, and remain shelved up until today.
Now in TL 191 we have a completely different result coming out of the Great War. A German victory at this time might actually reinforce the idea of linear progress. Even in OTL the unification of Germany and its rapid growth was used to defend this idea. America’s expansion and success also helped; Roosevelt actually wrote numerous essays on the subject. His victory would have only further encouraged the thought that linear progress is the way to go. This would help re-justify the new imperialism that America and Germany lead. For example: the annexation of the Confederacy can be justified by saying that the US turned out to be the more civilized of the two republics and thus it will bring its notions of civilization to the Confederacy who was still hindered by its believe in segregation.
Now TL 191 has its own holocaust, and it is mentioned that its atrocities were enough to make people think differently about race. However this event did not happen in Europe. So it is hard to know how Europe will respond. Will it learn from America’s mistake or will it also have future genocides of its own? Furthermore it can be argued that Featherston’s actions unlike Hitler’s were not driven by a believe in racial superiority; Early in the novels it is stated that he is wary of blacks because he, unlike most Confederates, realized blacks were not stupid and the red revolt proved it to him. This genocide was not based on the fact that black were inferior but rather that blacks were treacherous back stabbers.
It is hard to know how a very different world from our own would react to genocide. TL 191 would look at these events differently than how we do. Little changes on what people talk about and what get taught at schools can make a great difference on culture, which will then build up and have a large influence in events.
My guess is that the Social Darwinism like in OTL will cease to exist as an ideology, although it might not fully go away. Linear progress however might remain for a rather long time. In OTL the collapse of Europe as the pinnacle of civilization helped inspire many nationalist movements in Africa that lead to their independence; in Latin America, the movement resulted in a boom in literary and cultural works and a stance against American influence which ended with Cuba going commie and later Venezuela joining OPEC and placing the embargo on the US in the 1970s. In developed nations, particularly the US, this resulted in minorities demanding a voice and the Civil Rights Movement. Such thought is still a major cultural, and as a consequence political, debate in Latin America, Africa and other developing nations today; is the culture of these countries en par to that of the developed world? Is it inferior? Or does their traditional values and close connection to their customs makes it richer and therefore superior? Does neo-imperialism threaten their culture or rather help it become civilized? Even in developed nations the issue of minorities is still pressed and in the US it is a particularly important issue.
In TL191 it seems that the argument encouraged by the victorious US and Germany, who remain grossly imperial, would one based in the linear progress theory. It is the job of world powers to bring civilization to the far out reaches of the world. However I do not think this way of thinking can last very long past the time in which the novels end.
A small note about the Space Race
If one thing will definitely change it will be the absence of the Soviet Union as a rival power to the US. Yes, the US and Germany will likely fall into one of their own along with Japan as a third power but this is not a war of ideologies. The US will not have to win space to prove democracy and free markets are superior to communism. The Technological Race in TL 191 will be a much more peaceful one, with greater cooperation between countries. This will result in one of two either a faster development do to cooperation or a slower one because there is no strong rivalry to drive it. The same thing will be for the development of arms further along.
War tactics will also change due to the “terrorist” threat. The US is now filled with angry Mormons, Canadians and Confederates. The same goes for Germany as apparently French and Belgians learned guerrilla tactics sometime during the interwar period. This is somewhat non-historical but it is still part of TL191.
I think these were all the points I wanted to make. Not sure if I figure out something else I will post. You guys are welcome to continue as much as you like. Let's explore cultural changes they do often get ignored in AH and culture is as much a part of History as politics and military. And just like conflict can create changes in culture, culture can create conflict which will in turn change culture once again.
The montage, also known as the Rocky training sequence, might not be developed until much, much later. Why? Well because Soviet propaganda will be not come into being. And it was the commie filmmakers who figured out how to make the montage work, and that audiences could relate one image to the next.
Or… the other possibility could be that Hollywood cinema might look like Soviet cinema. It is very likely that after the failure of the Bolshevik uprising pro-communist talent in Russia will flee Russia and settle down in the more socialist friendly US. Whichever the case we can assume that the Rocky saga will not exist anyway.
Also it is mentioned that the Confederacy had a film industry based in Florida. These studios are likely to survive and produce independent films, which will probably remain popular amongst ex-Confederate audiences.
Ok moving on Social Thought
In OTL the prevailing anthropological thought leading up to WWI was that civilization progressed linearly. This mixed with Social Darwinism gave the perfect justification for the scramble for Africa and other colonialist ventures. People did believe that Europeans were higher on the evolutionary ladder than Africans, Southeast Asians, etc; this was true even within serious scientific discourse. Past WWI people became somewhat uncomfortable with the idea that civilization progressed linearly; after all if this was the case, why would civilization cause such devastation? Nevertheless Social Darwinism continued through the interwar period culminating in Nazi ideology. With the defeat of the Nazis and the end of WWII both ideologies were shelved, and remain shelved up until today.
Now in TL 191 we have a completely different result coming out of the Great War. A German victory at this time might actually reinforce the idea of linear progress. Even in OTL the unification of Germany and its rapid growth was used to defend this idea. America’s expansion and success also helped; Roosevelt actually wrote numerous essays on the subject. His victory would have only further encouraged the thought that linear progress is the way to go. This would help re-justify the new imperialism that America and Germany lead. For example: the annexation of the Confederacy can be justified by saying that the US turned out to be the more civilized of the two republics and thus it will bring its notions of civilization to the Confederacy who was still hindered by its believe in segregation.
Now TL 191 has its own holocaust, and it is mentioned that its atrocities were enough to make people think differently about race. However this event did not happen in Europe. So it is hard to know how Europe will respond. Will it learn from America’s mistake or will it also have future genocides of its own? Furthermore it can be argued that Featherston’s actions unlike Hitler’s were not driven by a believe in racial superiority; Early in the novels it is stated that he is wary of blacks because he, unlike most Confederates, realized blacks were not stupid and the red revolt proved it to him. This genocide was not based on the fact that black were inferior but rather that blacks were treacherous back stabbers.
It is hard to know how a very different world from our own would react to genocide. TL 191 would look at these events differently than how we do. Little changes on what people talk about and what get taught at schools can make a great difference on culture, which will then build up and have a large influence in events.
My guess is that the Social Darwinism like in OTL will cease to exist as an ideology, although it might not fully go away. Linear progress however might remain for a rather long time. In OTL the collapse of Europe as the pinnacle of civilization helped inspire many nationalist movements in Africa that lead to their independence; in Latin America, the movement resulted in a boom in literary and cultural works and a stance against American influence which ended with Cuba going commie and later Venezuela joining OPEC and placing the embargo on the US in the 1970s. In developed nations, particularly the US, this resulted in minorities demanding a voice and the Civil Rights Movement. Such thought is still a major cultural, and as a consequence political, debate in Latin America, Africa and other developing nations today; is the culture of these countries en par to that of the developed world? Is it inferior? Or does their traditional values and close connection to their customs makes it richer and therefore superior? Does neo-imperialism threaten their culture or rather help it become civilized? Even in developed nations the issue of minorities is still pressed and in the US it is a particularly important issue.
In TL191 it seems that the argument encouraged by the victorious US and Germany, who remain grossly imperial, would one based in the linear progress theory. It is the job of world powers to bring civilization to the far out reaches of the world. However I do not think this way of thinking can last very long past the time in which the novels end.
A small note about the Space Race
If one thing will definitely change it will be the absence of the Soviet Union as a rival power to the US. Yes, the US and Germany will likely fall into one of their own along with Japan as a third power but this is not a war of ideologies. The US will not have to win space to prove democracy and free markets are superior to communism. The Technological Race in TL 191 will be a much more peaceful one, with greater cooperation between countries. This will result in one of two either a faster development do to cooperation or a slower one because there is no strong rivalry to drive it. The same thing will be for the development of arms further along.
War tactics will also change due to the “terrorist” threat. The US is now filled with angry Mormons, Canadians and Confederates. The same goes for Germany as apparently French and Belgians learned guerrilla tactics sometime during the interwar period. This is somewhat non-historical but it is still part of TL191.
I think these were all the points I wanted to make. Not sure if I figure out something else I will post. You guys are welcome to continue as much as you like. Let's explore cultural changes they do often get ignored in AH and culture is as much a part of History as politics and military. And just like conflict can create changes in culture, culture can create conflict which will in turn change culture once again.
Let me ask, would you expect Bauhaus without WW1/WW2 (by any name...)?