The Yankee Dominion: A Map and World Building Project

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  1. Spens1 Well-Known Member

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    That is true, if the immigration is early enough (when Italy was regional) i think it could be very easy. Arab Christians i could see. Greeks is possible too I guess.

    edit: also noticed Vietnam (or that area) is French. I could certainly see a lot of immigration from there
     
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  2. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    Something like 15 million Italians emigrated in the time between Italian unification and WW1, and at least some of them would go to French Australia.
     
  3. Spens1 Well-Known Member

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    I'd say a healthy amount would now that i think about it. Both do have a lot of similarities. I was thinking about OTL and how many moved to Melbourne but in truth, maybe more move to French Australia that the British one (especially if both are about equal economically in this timeline).
     
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  4. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    My guess as to how French Australia would be as of AD 2018.

    Republic of Antipodea (French: République de l'Antipodée)
    Capital (and largest city): Port Napoléon (OTL Redcliffe, QLD)
    Population: 8.5 Million
    Languages: French (official), Antipodean Creole (commonly used), Italian (large Italian population in Antipodea)
    Ethnicity: 63% White (largely of French, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Portuguese and Arab Christian descent), 23% Asian (Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Filipino, Vietnamese etc.), 6% Mixed Race (largely Eurasian), 9% Other (Aboriginal, Melanesian, Black African, Arab Muslim etc.)
    Economy: Approx. 400 Billion USD/47,000 USD Per Capita
    Currency: Antipodean Franc
    Economic Sectors: Mining, Agriculture, Tourism, Services, Trade etc.
    Religion: 60% Christian (mainly Catholic), 33% Irreligious, 7% Other (Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist etc.)

    Flag of Antipodea
    alternate history country flag.png
     
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  5. Riley Uhr Muldoon did nothing wrong

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    Port Napoleon sounds a bit Generic dont you think?
     
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  6. Pokemon Master What's it to you?

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    Port Bonaparte?
     
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  7. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    generic indeed ;)
     
  8. Riley Uhr Muldoon did nothing wrong

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    How about Perronville? After Francois Perron?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/François_Perron
    A ballet dancer? I named Port Napoleon for Louis-Napoleon III, who was the French emperor during the 1850s and 60s and in this scenario I made sent the first French colonists down under.
     
  10. Riley Uhr Muldoon did nothing wrong

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    No he was a French explorer who visited Australia for french exploration during napoleons reign.
     
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  11. Spens1 Well-Known Member

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    never thought i'd see Redcliffe as the metropolitan heart of anything lol

    edit: 35k per capita would make it poorer than otl Aus and even France which is interesting. Would have thought it would make the 45-50k region but either way.
     
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  12. Zyxoriv Jack of all trades, master of none.

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    I wonder if making New Zealand Scottish would be interesting. The dialect certainly would be.
     
  13. Spens1 Well-Known Member

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    either that or somehow irish/gaelic. Certainly would differentiate it from the rest of British Aus.
     
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  14. Pokemon Master What's it to you?

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    It could be a collective Celtic thing
     
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  15. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    The economy was dependent on cash crops up until post WW2, which is why it's so poor (relatively). Today, things are going better, with a strong mining industry and tourism industry (honeymoon central).
    EDIT: I retroactively changed it to 400 Billion USD instead of 300 Billion, which raises the GDP per capita from 35,000 USD to 47,000.
     
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  16. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill Kicked

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    Yeah, I could definitely see that, maybe with New Zealand having three official languages (English, Gaelic, and Maori) as a result of this
     
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  17. Zyxoriv Jack of all trades, master of none.

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    The politics of a gaelic New Zealand would be interesting
     
  18. Oryxslayer Electoral Calculator

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    Smething to not is that Napoleon, at least how I imagined it is remembered in France as a tragic figure, great for France as their President-in-Perpetuity, but then became an enemy of the nation and basically a rebel during the 100 days. So there is still a little Napoleonic revanchist cult, but I imagine its confined to the army rather then the general public.
     
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    I am retroactively editing this to make the GDP per capita slightly higher.
     
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    Zyxoriv Jack of all trades, master of none.

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    I decided to make a couple of changes to the Senate list and to make sure the apportionment was right.

    Alaska
    • Lisa Murkowski (Progressive)
    • Bill Walker (Progressive)
    • Mike Gravel (Reform)
    • Don Young (National Heritage)
    • Sarah Palin (National Heritage)
    • Mark Begich (Liberal)
    Arkansas
    • Michel Hucabé (Federalist) (OTL Mike Huckabee)
    • Jules Gauthier (RPL) (OTL J.C. Watts)
    • Andrew Rice (Liberal)
    • Marie Fallin (RPL) (OTL Mary Fallin)
    • Louise Renaud (Federalist) (OTL Leslie Rutledge)
    Assiniboinia
    • Andrew Scheer (Federalist)
    • Erin Weir (Labor)
    Athabasca
    • Dick Cheney (National Heritage)
    • John Hoeven (Federalist)
    Bahamas
    • Sidney Poitier (Labor)
    • Cynthia Pratt (Labor)
    Cape Breton
    • Mark Eyking (Liberal)
    • Rodney MacDonald (Federalist)
    Connecticut
    • Joseph Lieberman (Progressive)
    • Ralph Nader (Green)
    • George W. Bush (Federalist)
    Delaware
    • Joe Biden (Labor)
    • John Carney (Labor)
    East Florida
    • Ricardo Sancho (Reform)
    • Greg Asbed (Labor)
    • Jeff Greene (Liberal)
    • John Morgan (Independent)
    • Michael Arth (Green)
    Franklin
    • Kim Campbell (Federalist)
    • Bill Gates (Independent)
    • Yonah Martin (Federalist)
    • Maria Cantwell (Labor)
    • Jim McDermott (Labor)
    • Svend Robinson (Labor)
    Frederica
    • Stephen Harper (Federalist)
    • Elaine McCoy (Progressive)
    Georgia
    • Ted Turner (Liberal)
    • Jack Kingston (Federalist)
    • Andrew Young (Labor)
    • Bernice King (Labor)
    Hudson
    • Michael Gravelle (Liberal)
    • Bill Mauro (Liberal)
    • Peter Harder (Independent)
    • Lynn Beyak (Federalist)
    Idaho
    • Jim Mattis (Federalist)
    • Jon Huntsman (Federalist)
    • Stockwell Day (National Heritage)
    • Paulette Jordan (Labor)
    • Butch Otter (National Heritage)
    • Dirk Kempthorne (National Heritage)
    Illinois
    • Jesse Jackson (Labor)
    • Guillaume Blythe (Liberal)
    • Donald Rumsfeld (Federalist)
    • Wesley Clark (Liberal)
    • Carol Moseley Braun (Labor)
    Indiana
    • Newt Gingrich (National Heritage)
    • Dominic Bague (Union Populaire)
    • Carine Lierre (RPL) (OTL Kay Ivey)
    • Robert Romilly (Federalist) (OTL Bob Riley)
    • Judith Bonaire (Federalist) (OTL Judy Bonner)
    • Tristan Shérif (RPL) (OTL Tate Reeves)
    • Reynaud Masson (Union Populaire) (OTL Ronnie Musgrove)
    • Rodolphe Voclain (Liberal) (OTL Randall Woodcliff)
    Iowa
    • Tom Harkin (Labor)
    • Christine Vilsack (Liberal)
    Kansas
    • Robert Gates (Federalist)
    • Mike Pompeo (America First!)
    Kentucky
    • Mitch McConnell (Federalist)
    • Matt Bevin (Federalist)
    • Jim Bunning (Federalist)
    Louisiana
    • Kathleen Blanco (Union Populaire)
    • Scott Angelle (RPL)
    • Gerard Longue (Independent Federalist) (OTL Gerald Long)
    • Jacques Roy (Union Populaire)
    • Dorian Cazayoux (Liberal) (OTL Don Cazayoux)
    Maine
    • Olympia Snowe (Progressive)
    • Henry John Bear (Green)
    Manitoba
    • Heidi Heitkamp (Liberal)
    • Duane Sands (Reform)
    Maryland
    • Barbara Mikulski (Labor)
    • Donna Edwards (Labor)
    • Ben Jealous (Labor)
    Massachusetts
    • Bill Weld (Reform)
    • Elizabeth Warren (Labor)
    • John F. Kennedy, Jr. (Liberal)
    Michigan
    • Owen Bieber (Independent Labor)
    • Carl Levin (Labor)
    • Brian Schatz (Labor)
    • Mitt Romney (Federalist)
    • Michael Moore (Independent)
    Minnesota
    • Walter Mondale (Labor)
    • Jesse Ventura (Green)
    • Tim Penny (Progressive)
    Missouri
    • Kit Bond (Federalist)
    • Eric Greitens (Independent Federalist)
    • Jay Nixon (Liberal)
    Nebraska
    • Charles Koch (Reform)
    • Warren Buffett (Independent)
    New Hampshire
    • Gene Chandler (Federalist)
    • Katrina Sweet (Liberal)
    • Ken Burns (Independent)
    New Jersey
    • Tom Kean (Federalist)
    • Jon Corzine (Liberal)
    • Richard Codey (Liberal)
    • Paul Krugman (Labor)
    New York
    • Barbara Boxer (Labor)
    • Nancy Pelosi (Liberal)
    • Colin Powell (Federalist)
    • Bill Nye (Independent)
    Newfoundland
    • Brian Tobin (Liberal)
    • Lorraine Michaels (Labor)
    North Carolina
    • Jerry Richardson (Federalist)
    • Elizabeth Dole (Federalist)
    • Harvey Gantt (Liberal)
    • Erskine Bowles (Liberal)
    Nova Scotia
    • Scott Brison (Progressive)
    • David Richard Adams (Liberal)
    • Geoff Regan (Labor)
    Ohio
    • Ted Strickland (Labor)
    • Lee Fisher (Labor)
    • Dick Celeste (Labor)
    • Mike DeWine (Federalist)
    • Bob Hagan (Liberal)
    Ontario
    • Anne Cools (Independent)
    • Gwen Boniface (Independent)
    • Tony Dean (Liberal)
    • Frances Larkin (Labor)
    • Sabi Marwah (Liberal)
    • Thanh Hai Ngo (Federalist)
    • Victor Oh (Federalist)
    • Jim Munson (Labor)
    • Linda Frum (Federalist)
    • Hassan Yussuf (Labor)
    Oregon
    • Carwyn Kendrick (Federalist) (OTL Phil Knight)
    • Goronwy Sayer (Federalist) (OTL Gordon Smith)
    • Anwen Cecil (Independent) (OTL Ann Curry)
    • Evan Maddox (Liberal) (OTL John Kitzenhaber)
    • Ellen Rosenblum (Liberal)
    • Liz Schuler (Labor)
    Pennsylvania
    • Ed Rendell (Liberal)
    • Ron Paul (Reform)
    • Tom Wolf (Labor)
    • Tom Ridge (Federalist)
    Pike
    • Pete Coors (Federalist)
    • Tom Udall (Labor)
    Quebec
    • Rosa Galvez (Labor)
    • Paul Massicotte (Union Populaire)
    • Dennis Dawson (Liberal)
    • Jean Charest (Federalist)
    • Claude Carignan (RPL)
    • Judith Seidman (Federalist)
    • Andre Arthur (RPL)
    • Serge Joyal (Union Populaire)
    • Vivian Barbot (Union Populaire)
    • Marine Ouellet (Union Populaire)
    Rhode Island
    • Lincoln Chafee (Progressive)
    • Clay Pell (Labor)
    Saskatchewan
    • Lillian Dyck (Labor)
    • Pamela Wallin (Independent)
    South Carolina
    • Elizabeth Colbert-Busch (Liberal)
    • Tim Scott (Federalist)
    • Paul Thurmond (Federalist)
    • Thomas Davis (Reform)
    • Nikki Haley (Federalist)
    St. Johns
    • Norman Doyle (Federalist)
    • Fabian Manning (Federalist)
    Tennessee
    • Bob Corker (Federalist)
    • Bill Haslam (Federalist)
    • Albert Giroux (Liberal) (OTL Al Gore)
    • Craig Fitzhugh (Liberal)
    • Peyton Manning (Independent Federalist)
    Vermont
    • Howard Dean (Liberal)
    • Philip Baruth (Labor)
    Virginia
    • Jay Rockefeller (Labor)
    • Joe Manchin (Labor)
    • Jim Webb (Liberal)
    • Eric Cantor (Federalist)
    Wabash
    • Dan Quayle (Federalist)
    • Richard Lugar (Federalist)
    • Mike Braun (Federalist)
    • Lee Hamilton (Labor)
    West Florida
    • Jean Casque (Federalist) (OTL John Neely Kennedy)
    • Caroline Fayard (Union Populaire)
    • Trent Lott (America First!)
    • Raymond Harbert (RPL)
    • Piyush Jindal (Federalist)
    • Joe Scarborough (Progressive)
    Wisconsin
    • Herb Kohl (Liberal)
    • Mary Burke (Liberal)
    • Chris Larson (Labor)
    • Reid Ribble (Reform)
    • Ron Johnson (Federalist)
     
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