The Union Forever: A TL
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Some ways I could think of is some sort of Trust Territory or Mandate.
I highly doubt it. Most likely they'd maintain a similar relationship to OTL. I could possibly see them going one step further and shedding their monarchies in order to gain entrance into the LAR, but I don't know how much incentive they'd have to do that. In OTL there'd be basically no reason, but ITTL Guyana was just invaded...
if Guyana joins then that leaves the dutch part left and USA could buy it
I was thinking more the remaining British islands that are near the US's Caribbean islands. Of course we could see a West Indies Federation that joins the LAR just as easily. Or maybe all the citizens will redouble their Britishness in the face of danger, ala the Falklands.
It could be split with the islands half might want to go the other half stay
Country Profile: Hungary
Name: Kingdom of Hungary
Capital and Largest City: Budapest
Population: 11,012,000 (1978)
Official Language: Hungarian
Demonym: Hungarian
Government: Parliamentary Monarchy
Head of State: King Ferdinand VI
Head of Government: Prime Minister Pista Ruzsa
Independence: July 3, 1910 (from Austria-Hungary)
Currency: Florint
Brief History of Hungary 1860-1979
In 1867, after the disastrous defeat at the hands of Prussia, the Austrian Empire was reformed granting Hungary some limited measures of self-government under a shared monarchy with Austria. Now styled Austria-Hungary, the region would remain a part of the Dual Monarchy until the end of the Great War. Following the defeat of the Imperial Entente, the Kingdom of Hungary was restored as a fully independent nation. After bitter negotiations between the Allied Powers, a Hapsburg nephew of the last Austro-Hungarian Emperor Maximilian I was crowned King Francis II. In 1916, the country was plunged into disarray after Robi Vencel Ignacz and his Communists seized power and proclaimed the Hungarian Socialist Republic. It would be sort lived and Francis II was reinstated after German and Russian troops crushed the so-called “Red Revolt” nine months later. Over the next several decades, Hungary drew closer to Germany and was a founding member of the Association of European States in 1963. Domestically, Hungary remained trapped under a succession of repressive and illiberal governments. As such, tensions between reformers and conservative monarchists flared up repeatedly throughout the ‘60s and ‘70s leaving many to wonder whether another revolution was in the making.
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Cool update. I've always been a little partial to Hungary, namely because some of my ancestors were Hungarian. Of course ITTL, my ancestors have long since been butterflied away.
I've also got a couple of questions:
1 - Am I correct in assuming that that's Slovenia to the east of Italy?
2 - Will we end up seeing a Hungarian Revolution sometime in the 1980s?
I've also got a couple of questions:
1 - Am I correct in assuming that that's Slovenia to the east of Italy?
2 - Will we end up seeing a Hungarian Revolution sometime in the 1980s?
Thanks Alternity9497, to answer your questions....
1) Yes, that is the landlocked Republic of Slovenia you see.
2) We will have to wait and see.
So like Bolivia, Slovenia cannot into coastline. Interesting how that turned out.
Hungary did loose Transylvania to Romania. Hungary only kept part of the Banat, and received the areas of Slavonia and Slovakia that had significant Hungarian populations.
Treaty of Colombo
Treaty of Colombo
With Harshad Nanda dead and his corporatist regime deposed, the victorious powers gathered in the Ceylonese capital of Colombo to hammer out a final peace treaty. Although the war continued in the Pacific and Venezuela, a settlement was finally reached in November after over four months of intense negotiations. The lengthy treaty would impose several conditions and redraw the map of the subcontinent.
Indian Government
The treaty made a number of stipulations on the shape that India’s post war government was to take. The corporatist Raṣṭriya Ekata Parṭi (REP) was permanently banned and any high ranking REP politician was barred form ever holding public office. Free, fair, and democratic elections were to be held no later than July of 1980. India was to renounce aggressive war and any territorial claim to neighboring counties. The Indian government was also forced to apologize for the war and pay reparations worth 40 billion British Pounds.
Military Restrictions
Also imposed in the treaty were several limitations on India’s military. Ground troops were hereby capped at 300,000 and cataphracts at 250. The Indian air force was prohibited from possessing any medium to heavy bombers and restricted to a mere 200 aircraft including attack helicopters. India forever renounced the right to possess chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons. The Indian Navy could not exceed 100,000 tons and was forbidden to operate aircraft carriers or armed submarines.
Territorial Changes
As expected, the treaty made numerous territorial changes at the expense of defeated India. Bengal’s western border was expanded to include the now ruined city of Calcutta. At the strong insistence of the Portuguese delegation the three settlements of Portuguese India had their territory expanded to more “defensible borders.” The Commonwealth of Madras gained territory to have a contiguous border running from Goa to Hyderabad. Mysore gained a small corridor to the sea, and Hyderabad made modest gains in the southwest. Along the Indus River, two new nations were formed out of the predominantly Muslim states of Sindh, South Punjab, and West Punjab. These included the Republic of Sindh with its government seated in Karachi, and the Republic of the Punjab with its capital in Multan. Awkwardly, Baluchistan was forced to cede a large swath of territory to Persia which was politely termed a “border readjustment.”
Spheres of Influence
While not explicitly mentioned, the Treaty of Colombo effectively carved out new spheres of influence for the major powers. Baluchistan, Sindh, and the Punjab
all become heavily tied to Persia. The Chinese Technate acquired massive influence over Assam and Bengal. In the south, the Commonwealth of Madras positioned itself to become the leader of a new coalition of small Indian nations.
Ratification
While the Indian provisional government in Delhi found these terms harsh, they correctly realized that they were in no position to argue. Furthermore, large of amounts of aid in food, medicine, and equipment needed for reconstruction was made dependent of ratifying the treaty. As such India resultantly agreed to the terms on November 4, 1979 with all the other signatories signing by the end of the year.
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So much for an easy death of imperialism/colonialism. This war will likely rally the Portuguese around the insistence that they maintain these external territories.
This was a very foolish endeavor for India.
The Treaty of Colombo seems to have parallels to the Treaty of Versailles. I hope that doesn't mean a WW2-analog is around the corner
I highly doubt that with nuclear weapons on the British side, their regional allies proceeding to be curb stomped, and a Chinese colossus squatting on their doorstep.
If anything this is the WWII analog!
Well, that is an interesting set of circumstances there. I honestly expected Mumbai or another state to break off to the south, but India's lost quite a lot already.
Burma's going to be antsy here. If China is already trying to work over Bengal and Assam into their camp, and they already know that Indochina is going to be in the Chinese's grasp, then it is only they and Siam that are not Chinese. What is the prevailing mood among Burmans? Do they care more for the Chinese after they kicked the Indians out, or do they still want to stay closer to Britain (and in respect Madras and the rest of southern India)
Poor Afghanistan.
Madras's little confederation to the south could go somewhere. Curious as to whether they would unite in the long term. They could become an interesting power in the region.
Portuguese India is going to be a headache for all sides involved, especially considering that Portugal is still fighting to hold its large African colonies. I wonder how the natives took the (majority) Portuguese troops that fought and died for Goa.
Burma's going to be antsy here. If China is already trying to work over Bengal and Assam into their camp, and they already know that Indochina is going to be in the Chinese's grasp, then it is only they and Siam that are not Chinese. What is the prevailing mood among Burmans? Do they care more for the Chinese after they kicked the Indians out, or do they still want to stay closer to Britain (and in respect Madras and the rest of southern India)
Poor Afghanistan.
Madras's little confederation to the south could go somewhere. Curious as to whether they would unite in the long term. They could become an interesting power in the region.
Portuguese India is going to be a headache for all sides involved, especially considering that Portugal is still fighting to hold its large African colonies. I wonder how the natives took the (majority) Portuguese troops that fought and died for Goa.