The Union Forever: A TL
- Thread starter Mac Gregor
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No. The original epilogue is no longer valid. Some elements will however pop up from time to time.
Hrm. Well, if that's the case, the upcoming result to the war might be interesting. If India is not destined to be balkanized so badly... Could we actually see a Dravidian nation appearing in the south (either through rebellion or union after the war ends) to try to counterbalance the north? That would be interesting.
But if that's the case, I don't see India giving up Bengal or Assam. Kinda sad to think that, but I liked seeing both of the states independent. India simply has conquered too much and hasn't been issued a defeat in the one theater of war that matters.
As for the Hainan situation, do we still have a majority Han? Or is it already majority Japanese? If the latter is so, Korea can't be in good shape. With thirty more years to continue their absorption into the Japanese culture than OTL, there might not be much of a Korea left. There are certainly millions of Japanese on the peninsula, and how many Koreans now consider themselves Japanese?
The only way I see otherwise is if a large number of Koreans emigrate to Russia or China. I could see either. China for their historical dominion over Korea, or Russia to help build a friendly (and anti-Japanese) population in the far east. A New Korea near/on Liaodong would be an interesting concept.
...Actually, that's the only way I see a large Korean culture surviving, unless the Japanese are just nicer this time around for some reason.
You could use Kiwi and the fern together
I like that second graphic a lot. Can someone get it in color? Blue or Red would do.
Good comments.
For Hainan, the island by 1977 is only 45% Han.
Concerning Korea, here is an old update from 1951.
With the rise of Tatsuo Shimoji to the premiership of the Japanese Empire in June of 1951 the ruling Kobushi party began deliberate steps to consolidate the Empire’s possessions in preparation for future expansion. Having annexed the Korean Peninsula in 1899, the Japanese government after nearly 52 years of rule, issued the somewhat oddly titled Act of Cultural and Ethnic Understanding for the Perpetuation of National Unity which curtailed many of the regressive political and economic measures the Japanese had emplaced over the last half century. The act dramatically increased the ability of Koreans to travel and work in Japan as well as serve in the military. While Koreans remained second class subjects compared to full blooded Japanese and continued to be denied access to most decision making circles it did represent an important shift in government policy to be more inclusive of ethnic minorities. Although several hardliners in the Kobushi party opposed the policy most thought it a prudent step to try and co-opt the unruly and sometimes rebellious Koreans into becoming more productive members of the Empire
As you can see Japan has made some steps to accommodate the Koreans. There are also several million Japanese living on the Korean Peninsula. However, Korean culture does still exists but many are still deeply resentful of their subordination to the Japanese.
Well, to be just a little optimistic, destroying a culture outright is harder than it looks. Look at all that Ireland's been through, with its centuries of Anglo-Scottish settlement, Irish emigration, and the Potato Famine, and yet you've still got over a third of the population that speaks Irish. Assimilation's hard to force unless you've got a really overwhelming numerical advantage over the subject population, and I don't think the imbalance here is quite so bad. Outside of outright genocide, which I figure is still too far for TTL Japan, less than a century of occupation shouldn't be long enough to expunge Korean culture completely. If nothing else, the oppression will make them cling to their heritage even harder.
Thanks for you help. What about this?
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Something like that was what I was going to suggest. Belfast and MacGregor, that looks great! Went from, "Well, some poor unlucky country has to get stuck with something worse than OTL," to, "Wow, this SHOULD be adopted IOTL."
Can someone whiten the white for me? I only use MS paint and that takes a while.
Ah, I see. Sorry about that. I'll need to read through the thread again just to pick up on those little things. Just got a little carried away with that train of thought.
