The Towers Still Stand: An Alternate take on early 21st Century America.

Who Do You Think will win the 2004 Presidential Election at This Point in the TL?

  • President George W. Bush (R-TX)

    Votes: 60 28.7%
  • Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)

    Votes: 96 45.9%
  • Speaker of the House Dick Gephardt (D-MO)

    Votes: 18 8.6%
  • Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)

    Votes: 13 6.2%
  • Senator John Edwards (D-NC)

    Votes: 5 2.4%
  • Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)

    Votes: 11 5.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 2.9%

  • Total voters
    209
  • Poll closed .
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Is this tongue in cheek?:eek:

I also think he had the best of intentions, but was a very bad VP.

I could have Lieberman run, but lose the nomination. I think after a DLCer losing a winnable election in 2000, corporate scandals possibly getting more attention than OTL, and with no 9/11 and resulting wars, the Democrats might start moving towards the left earlier than 2008.

Yeah, Lieberman would work. And that logic is pretty sound. You don't need the DLCer to win; you just need him to rub.
 
Interesting Possibilities

Bush has just won an extremely close and, some will argue, controversial win. I'm sure that he wouldn't want to invite additional criticism by having 270 unknown electors select the person who would be a heartbeat from the Presidency. It makes more political sense in this case to use the 25th Amendment to fill the vacancy. Bush can even score points as a uniter by building a consensus among both parties as to who that person should be.

Given the circumstances, this would be a very savvy move. (Giving substance to, "I'm a Uniter, not a Divider.") :cool:

However, does the misunderestimated Dubya have the necessary savvy? (OTOH, the whole Bush clan, while perceptive in certain areas is remarkably tone-deaf in others. This might work to his benefit, if Bush ignores advisors urging a partisan solution.)

But, who would Congress want? Or who could Congress compromise on? A Dud, or a Firecracker? And who would be better for a non-9/11 era? :confused:
 
Given the circumstances, this would be a very savvy move. (Giving substance to, "I'm a Uniter, not a Divider.") :cool:

However, does the misunderestimated Dubya have the necessary savvy? (OTOH, the whole Bush clan, while perceptive in certain areas is remarkably tone-deaf in others. This might work to his benefit, if Bush ignores advisors urging a partisan solution.)

But, who would Congress want? Or who could Congress compromise on? A Dud, or a Firecracker? And who would be better for a non-9/11 era? :confused:

Um Ron Paul? :D
 
March 28th, 2001. President Bush Withdraws U.S. Support from 1997 Kyoto Protocol:​

On March 28th, 2001, President George W. Bush announced that the United States would withdraw its support from the 1997 Kyoto Protocol on the reduction of Greenhouse Gasses. The United States signed the protocol in 1998 under President Bill Clinton, however the treaty was never ratified in the Senate, therefore while the U.S. did sign the treaty, it was never binding in the U.S. The President withdrew U.S. support from this treaty because he felt it would cause harm to the U.S. economy and that the bill unfairly targeted the United States while being lenient to countries such as China and India."

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The President received a great deal of criticism from environmentalists and from the international community over his decision to withdraw U.S. involvement.
 
April 1st, 2001. The Hainan Island Incident:​

On the morning of April 1st, 2001, a People's liberation Army Navy J-8II interceptor fighter jet and a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals intelligence aircraft collided in a mid air collision. The EP-3E was forced to make an emergency landing on Hainan, while a pilot of the PRC went missing and was presumed dead. The U.S. crew of the EP-3E was then detained by the Chinese Government for 10 days. The United States issued a letter to the Foreign minister of the People's republic of China to defuse the situation.
 
May 16th, 2001. The President's tax plan passes in the House:​

On May 16th, 2001 the President's tax plan titled the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001. This plan reduced income tax rates, made exclusions in estate and gift taxes, and simplified retirement and qualified plans such as 401 K, 403 B, individual retirement accounts, and pension plans. The reductions in income taxes were to come into full effect by 2006. This plan passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 230 supporting to 197, with 5 people not voting. 13 Democrats voted with the Republicans for this tax plan.

May 23rd, 2001. The President's tax plan passes the Senate through a Tie Breaking Vote:​

Just one week after the House passed the President's tax plan, the Senate held a vote and the plan, and it came to a 50/50 vote. Three Senate Republicans, Senators McCain, Chafee, and Jeffords, voted with Senate Democrats in opposing the plan, while one Democrat, Zell Miller of Georgia, voted with the Republicans in support of the plan. Because the Senate was split on the decision, Vice President John Kasich casted the deciding vote, and the plan passed the Senate.

June 5th, 2001. Two Senators switch Parties:​

On June 5th, 2001, in a joint Press Conference, Republican Senators Jim Jeffords of Vermont, and Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, announced that they were leaving the Republican party to become independents. Both of them expressed that they were growing frustrated with the direction their party was going in and said that the leadership of their party was growing frustrated with them and they were getting frustrated with the Republican leadership. Both said they intended to caucus with the Democratic party, giving the Democrats a 53 seat majority.

Hours later, in an interview on FOX News, Vice President Kasich said that Jeffords and Chafee were both doing a great disservice to their constituents who elected them as Republicans.

June 7th, 2001. President Bush signs his Tax Plan into law:​

On June 7th, 2001, President Bush signed the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, making it law. After this, the President would go on vacation.

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September 10th, 2001. $2.3 Trillion Dollars Unaccounted for at the Pentagon:​

On September 10th, 2001, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declared war on what he called "an adversary closer to home. It's Pentagon bureaucracy." He then announced that "According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions." Rumsfeld said this was due to accounting problems and said that changes would be made in how the Defense Department keeps track of its funding and transactions.
 
September 11th, 2001. President Bush promotes Education Plan at a Florida School. New York has unusually Nice Weather:​

On the morning of September 11th, 2001, President George W. Bush visited Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida, where he was to visit a second grade class during their reading lesson. Their lesson was focused on the short story, "The Pet Goat." After the lesson, the President said it was a pleasure to be apart of their lesson for the day and that they all did an excellent job, and said "The Pet Goat" was "a heck of a story." He then took a group photo with the class, again shook hands with all the students and the teacher, and left the classroom to give a Press Conference about his visit and about his education plan. After the Press Conference, the President would board Air Force One to return to the Nation's Capitol.

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New York City had an unusually Nice day for September, with clear Sunny Skies and warm temperatures.

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September 11th, 2001. President Bush promotes Education Plan at a Florida School. New York has unusually Nice Weather:​

On the morning of September 11th, 2001, President George W. Bush visited Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida, where he was to visit a second grade class during their reading lesson. Their lesson was focused on the short story, "The Pet Goat." After the lesson, the President said it was a pleasure to be apart of their lesson for the day and that they all did an excellent job, and said "The Pet Goat" was "a heck of a story." He then took a group photo with the class, again shook hands with all the students and the teacher, and left the classroom to give a Press Conference about his visit and about his education plan. After the Press Conference, the President would board Air Force One to return to the Nation's Capitol.

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New York City had an unusually Nice day for September, with clear Sunny Skies and warm temperatures.

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Nice touch, contrasting RL with ITTL.
Also, nice to see the Twin Towers still standing, gracing the NYC skyline in all their grace and glory. :)
 
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