The Old European Cup survives - No Champions League (1991)
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2008 for sure, I need to update the list of winners because they might be there too in 2009. Not 2010 definitely.
Thank you!
2010/11
2010-11: Barcelona
Man United and Barcelona, after seeing each other in last years' semifinals, are drawn together again, this time in the second round. It's revenge for Pep Guardiola's team, who has brought David Villa and Mascherano, among others, after saying goodbye to Henry and Zlatan. The first leg ends up 1-1 thanks to a Barça goal with only 2 minutes to go. The Catalans give their fans one of their most memorable matches in the return leg: Man United is winning 1-2 at half-time, so Barcelona needs at least 2 goals to qualify. They manage to score three via Villa and Messi, but all of them come in the last ten minutes of the game. United is out of Europe, but at least the Red Devils will win the Premier League again.
(I've decided to include some of the coolest match-ups in this format as well)
In that same round, the defending English champions, Chelsea, are also knocked out by Bayern, who is better now, in another exciting tie. Ancelotti's side seems to have the match under control in the first match, but an injury time goal by Müller in Stamford Bridge becomes crucial for the Bavarians, who thanks to Mario Gómez will advance to the next round on away goals.
Bayern, however, will crumble against an amazing Benfica in the quarter-finals, leading to the destitution of Louis Van Gaal and eventually losing the Bundesliga against Borussia Dortmund. The Portuguese champions, coached by Jorge Jesus and featuring a lot of South American players (Saviola, Pereira, Pablo Aimar...) put Barça in trouble for some phases of the first leg in Lisbon, but they get beaten easily by Messi and company at the Camp Nou. Barcelona is again in a European Cup final.
Their rivals will be the Italian champions. Inter is having a pleasant journey in Europe, as they win every single match they play up to the final, the first one they play since the 1960s. They don't face top clubs along the way, and don't suffer too much in the semis to beat Rubin Kazan, which contrasts with their performance at home. Inter won't win the Serie A, with Rafa Benítez being the first casualty in December. Leonardo takes over for the second half of the season and makes the Nerazzurri win the Coppa Italia and advance in Europe.
But in Wembley, the Italian side won't have the same luck. It's a strange final but with a predictable outcome. Messi scores in the very first play of the match, and then, the games shifts between boring and intense, depending when Barcelona decides to control the ball just to avoid stress, or aim for a second goal and kill their rivals. Inter only scares the Blaugranas a couple times during the match, but the score remains 1-0 until the 86th minute, when Motta deflects a Busquets' shot to sentence the final. However, three minutes later, Milito shoots from outside of the box and keeps Valdés off-guard, giving his team some hope. The hearts of Barça fans at Wembley race fast for a couple of minutes before the referee blows his whistle and give them joy: the Catalans are European champions for their third time.
As for the 2011-12 season, these are the teams more likely to win:
Man United and Barcelona, after seeing each other in last years' semifinals, are drawn together again, this time in the second round. It's revenge for Pep Guardiola's team, who has brought David Villa and Mascherano, among others, after saying goodbye to Henry and Zlatan. The first leg ends up 1-1 thanks to a Barça goal with only 2 minutes to go. The Catalans give their fans one of their most memorable matches in the return leg: Man United is winning 1-2 at half-time, so Barcelona needs at least 2 goals to qualify. They manage to score three via Villa and Messi, but all of them come in the last ten minutes of the game. United is out of Europe, but at least the Red Devils will win the Premier League again.
(I've decided to include some of the coolest match-ups in this format as well)
In that same round, the defending English champions, Chelsea, are also knocked out by Bayern, who is better now, in another exciting tie. Ancelotti's side seems to have the match under control in the first match, but an injury time goal by Müller in Stamford Bridge becomes crucial for the Bavarians, who thanks to Mario Gómez will advance to the next round on away goals.
Bayern, however, will crumble against an amazing Benfica in the quarter-finals, leading to the destitution of Louis Van Gaal and eventually losing the Bundesliga against Borussia Dortmund. The Portuguese champions, coached by Jorge Jesus and featuring a lot of South American players (Saviola, Pereira, Pablo Aimar...) put Barça in trouble for some phases of the first leg in Lisbon, but they get beaten easily by Messi and company at the Camp Nou. Barcelona is again in a European Cup final.
Their rivals will be the Italian champions. Inter is having a pleasant journey in Europe, as they win every single match they play up to the final, the first one they play since the 1960s. They don't face top clubs along the way, and don't suffer too much in the semis to beat Rubin Kazan, which contrasts with their performance at home. Inter won't win the Serie A, with Rafa Benítez being the first casualty in December. Leonardo takes over for the second half of the season and makes the Nerazzurri win the Coppa Italia and advance in Europe.
But in Wembley, the Italian side won't have the same luck. It's a strange final but with a predictable outcome. Messi scores in the very first play of the match, and then, the games shifts between boring and intense, depending when Barcelona decides to control the ball just to avoid stress, or aim for a second goal and kill their rivals. Inter only scares the Blaugranas a couple times during the match, but the score remains 1-0 until the 86th minute, when Motta deflects a Busquets' shot to sentence the final. However, three minutes later, Milito shoots from outside of the box and keeps Valdés off-guard, giving his team some hope. The hearts of Barça fans at Wembley race fast for a couple of minutes before the referee blows his whistle and give them joy: the Catalans are European champions for their third time.
As for the 2011-12 season, these are the teams more likely to win:
- Barcelona and Man United are the big two candidates
- Porto and Borussia Dortmund are not that strong, but they're still good
- Shakhtar, Lille and Milan are the underdogs more favoured to go far
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Great as always my friend, the only thing i can recomend you is to theardmark the update so they can be see more easily
make Shakhtar Donetsk the winners of 2011-2012 CL or APOEL
I can't make them win, I just roll the dices
APOEL is unlikely, but Shakhtar, if they're lucky with the draw, can reach the final or so. Let's see, hopefully tomorrow I can post it
2011/12
2011-12: Barcelona
This time, we got our dream final. Barcelona and Manchester United, the top favourites, meet each other in the final. Despite the success, it is a strange season for Pep Guardiola. José Mourinho, managing Real Madrid, conquers LaLiga for Los Blancos and appears to be winning the psychological battle against him. This is probably why despite eventually winning the Copa del Rey, Barça fans question if Guardiola's tiki-taka style is fading away and a change is needed. When it is clear that Barça won't win the title after losing at home to Real, Pep announces he would leave the team at the end of the season, citing stress and exhaustion as the main reasons to depart.
In Europe, Barcelona dance at Messi's tune. When he's inspired, the Blaugranas are the best team in the world. Against Borussia Dortmund, the Argentinian performs at his highest level in a very anticipated match. Jürgen Klopp, in his fourth season at Dortmund, has created a gegenpressing machine that allows them to conquer the Bundesliga over Bayern. But his super offensive style suffers a huge blow against Barcelona, who absolutely destroys them both at home and away for a combined score of 11-1.
For the Blaugranas, their European campaign continues with success thanks to new addition Cesc Fábregas, who fits the team like a glove. After beating Shakhtar, they can't manage to get past Porto's defense in the semi-finals. But at Do Dragao, the defending champions score another five goals and book their ticket to the Munich final, in which they'll face United.
Manchester United also enoys a good journey to the final, but looks a bit more bumpy compared to Barcelona's. They play every first leg away, and the results aren't always that great as expected. But at Old Trafford, it's always a different story and there's no place for doubts, given that the Red Devils beat all of their rivals by a big margin. In the Premier League, however, they'll lose the title race against a rising Manchester City.
The Allianz Arena will feature two of the most successful teams in the last 20 years. It feels like the end of a generation for both teams: Messi is still young, yes, but Pep Guardiola will say goodbye after the match and who knows what future will bring. For Ferguson, it's probably his last chance to crown his old guard (although Scholes and Van der Sar are retired now), because rumours say that his retirement is near. On the pitch, Barcelona dominates the first half, but De Gea saves a penalty kick by Messi in the 37th minute that keeps the score 0-0. It's only in the 61st minute when the fans scream 'goal' for the first time. A free kick near the corner ends with Jonny Evans heading the ball into his own goal after rebounding in a Barça player. United don't want to admit defeat yet, but fifteen minutes later Messi scores with a beatufil free kick from outside the box. With United knocked down and just one minute to go before injury time, Alexis Sánchez makes the third to give the Blaugranas their fourth European Cup ever, the second for Pep.
This is how every final looks like:
This time, we got our dream final. Barcelona and Manchester United, the top favourites, meet each other in the final. Despite the success, it is a strange season for Pep Guardiola. José Mourinho, managing Real Madrid, conquers LaLiga for Los Blancos and appears to be winning the psychological battle against him. This is probably why despite eventually winning the Copa del Rey, Barça fans question if Guardiola's tiki-taka style is fading away and a change is needed. When it is clear that Barça won't win the title after losing at home to Real, Pep announces he would leave the team at the end of the season, citing stress and exhaustion as the main reasons to depart.
In Europe, Barcelona dance at Messi's tune. When he's inspired, the Blaugranas are the best team in the world. Against Borussia Dortmund, the Argentinian performs at his highest level in a very anticipated match. Jürgen Klopp, in his fourth season at Dortmund, has created a gegenpressing machine that allows them to conquer the Bundesliga over Bayern. But his super offensive style suffers a huge blow against Barcelona, who absolutely destroys them both at home and away for a combined score of 11-1.
For the Blaugranas, their European campaign continues with success thanks to new addition Cesc Fábregas, who fits the team like a glove. After beating Shakhtar, they can't manage to get past Porto's defense in the semi-finals. But at Do Dragao, the defending champions score another five goals and book their ticket to the Munich final, in which they'll face United.
Manchester United also enoys a good journey to the final, but looks a bit more bumpy compared to Barcelona's. They play every first leg away, and the results aren't always that great as expected. But at Old Trafford, it's always a different story and there's no place for doubts, given that the Red Devils beat all of their rivals by a big margin. In the Premier League, however, they'll lose the title race against a rising Manchester City.
The Allianz Arena will feature two of the most successful teams in the last 20 years. It feels like the end of a generation for both teams: Messi is still young, yes, but Pep Guardiola will say goodbye after the match and who knows what future will bring. For Ferguson, it's probably his last chance to crown his old guard (although Scholes and Van der Sar are retired now), because rumours say that his retirement is near. On the pitch, Barcelona dominates the first half, but De Gea saves a penalty kick by Messi in the 37th minute that keeps the score 0-0. It's only in the 61st minute when the fans scream 'goal' for the first time. A free kick near the corner ends with Jonny Evans heading the ball into his own goal after rebounding in a Barça player. United don't want to admit defeat yet, but fifteen minutes later Messi scores with a beatufil free kick from outside the box. With United knocked down and just one minute to go before injury time, Alexis Sánchez makes the third to give the Blaugranas their fourth European Cup ever, the second for Pep.
This is how every final looks like:
please please give some underdogs or smaller clubs an chance
please
It's not that I don't want to, but they've been unlucky in general. I use their rankings and some luck factors, I roll the dice, and then I create the narrative around it. So it's tricky, sadly. If you see, Spartak wins it in 1994 and Porto in 2005. And Benfica in 1992. Then, Legia, Rosenborg, Slovan or Tirol have been into the finals. And some underdog champions, like Wolfsburg or Auxerre, have been there too but they didn't win. Well, 1996 is an underperforming Real Madrid against Milan, that's a surprise. Or Ajax in 1999, too.
The only hope for the small clubs is that the big dogs get paired together early in the draw and they have an easy route to the final, but I want to keep using the same method until we reach 2024...
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2012/13
2012-13: Real Madrid
With Guardiola out of Barcelona, the title holders are now directed by Tito Vilanova, Pep's right hand the past four years. The Blaugrana manage to progress in Europe despite facing top opponents like Zenit and Juventus before meeting enemies Real Madrid in the semi-finals. The expectations are high, and Los Blancos want revenge: their last two European Cup campaigns were ruined precisely by the Catalans (see 2007/08 and 2008/09). The tension is high: every Clásico is very heated now, and some claim that it's affecting the Spanish national team players. Nevertheless, the first match ends 2-2 at the Camp Nou after a late comeback by the Madridistas that ruins the Barça party. The away match starts with a Messi goal that catches Casillas off-guard, but Higuaín levels with a header. The match is intense, but in the last 20 minutes, Real Madrid focus on defense knowing the 3-3 aggregate is good to go qualify for the final. The celebration at the Bernabéu is completed when Ronaldo scores a free kick in stoppage time: Real wins it and qualify for the final (their third in a row, if we consider Mourinho has taken them to win the UEFA Cup in 2011 and the Cup Winners' Cup in 2012).
The other semi-final is also a true spectacle, specially the first leg. Jürgen Klopp's Borussia Dortmund is a more matured team now, and is an aggresive force in Europe thanks to new addition Marco Reus. They destroy every rival until the semi-final, when they face Manchester City. The Sky Blues are finally seeing a return in all the money invested, as they won the Premier League last year and are in the semis of the European Cup. Mancini's side is clearly outplayed in the first leg, but somehow a brace by Carlos Tévez gives the Citizens a chance at home. In one of their best games in the season, City win 1-0 with an Agüero goal in the first half and qualify for the final.
At Wembley, City feels at home, but they start a bit shaky, with Real Madrid dominating the first half. Both teams look afraid of conceding too much, with Real having most chances, but City the most dangerous ones. Nothing moves until the second half, where there are two goals in just a matter of seconds. A cross from Silva in the 50th minute finds Agüero after Varane and Pepe miscommunicate to get the ball out. Madrid was in trouble only for 2 minutes, as they manage a corner kick in the very next play and Sergio Ramos equalises with a header. The match ends 1-1, but Ronaldo scores a golazo from outside of the box in the 6th minute of extra time. Real wins it and conquers the awaited La Décima. However, the controversial Mourinho won't continue in the club, as there is tension with Casillas (who is in the bench in this final). Mancini won't survive either, as he doesn't win any title and the City sacks him.
With Guardiola out of Barcelona, the title holders are now directed by Tito Vilanova, Pep's right hand the past four years. The Blaugrana manage to progress in Europe despite facing top opponents like Zenit and Juventus before meeting enemies Real Madrid in the semi-finals. The expectations are high, and Los Blancos want revenge: their last two European Cup campaigns were ruined precisely by the Catalans (see 2007/08 and 2008/09). The tension is high: every Clásico is very heated now, and some claim that it's affecting the Spanish national team players. Nevertheless, the first match ends 2-2 at the Camp Nou after a late comeback by the Madridistas that ruins the Barça party. The away match starts with a Messi goal that catches Casillas off-guard, but Higuaín levels with a header. The match is intense, but in the last 20 minutes, Real Madrid focus on defense knowing the 3-3 aggregate is good to go qualify for the final. The celebration at the Bernabéu is completed when Ronaldo scores a free kick in stoppage time: Real wins it and qualify for the final (their third in a row, if we consider Mourinho has taken them to win the UEFA Cup in 2011 and the Cup Winners' Cup in 2012).
The other semi-final is also a true spectacle, specially the first leg. Jürgen Klopp's Borussia Dortmund is a more matured team now, and is an aggresive force in Europe thanks to new addition Marco Reus. They destroy every rival until the semi-final, when they face Manchester City. The Sky Blues are finally seeing a return in all the money invested, as they won the Premier League last year and are in the semis of the European Cup. Mancini's side is clearly outplayed in the first leg, but somehow a brace by Carlos Tévez gives the Citizens a chance at home. In one of their best games in the season, City win 1-0 with an Agüero goal in the first half and qualify for the final.
At Wembley, City feels at home, but they start a bit shaky, with Real Madrid dominating the first half. Both teams look afraid of conceding too much, with Real having most chances, but City the most dangerous ones. Nothing moves until the second half, where there are two goals in just a matter of seconds. A cross from Silva in the 50th minute finds Agüero after Varane and Pepe miscommunicate to get the ball out. Madrid was in trouble only for 2 minutes, as they manage a corner kick in the very next play and Sergio Ramos equalises with a header. The match ends 1-1, but Ronaldo scores a golazo from outside of the box in the 6th minute of extra time. Real wins it and conquers the awaited La Décima. However, the controversial Mourinho won't continue in the club, as there is tension with Casillas (who is in the bench in this final). Mancini won't survive either, as he doesn't win any title and the City sacks him.
2013 - All winners so far
These are all champions so far:
And the top candidates ahead of the 2013-14 edition:
And the top candidates ahead of the 2013-14 edition:
- Real Madrid
- Barcelona
- Bayern
- Man United
- Juve
- PSG
Indeed! Liverpool are one of the big 'losers' of this European Cup scenario, and Man United is probably the big winner overall. Barça is slightly better here in the 2000s but way worse in the 1990s. And Madrid is more or less the same, with the Galácticos dominating and Mou winning with them. But I imagine that the final they lose against Barça in 2008 remains a big scar.
The one that gonna have so much chance to win that gonna be Bayern, like 11 consecutive times
Bayern, PSG and Juve will have a decade of dominance, let's see who get the most out of it. Bayern should be really good these upcoming years, indeed.
Yeah right?
2013/14
2013-14: FC Bayern
Defending champions Real Madrid are now guided by Carlo Ancelotti in the bench and have added Gareth Bale to their squad. The team progresses without issues in Europe until spring, where they face Juventus in the Quarter-Finals. The Bianconeri are a strong team again after their relegation to Serie B, and have conquered the last two Serie A under Antonio Conte, but European glory is still evading them. Against Los Blancos, Juve secures a thrilling 4-3 victory at home, but Real is confident for the second leg, knowing the comeback is easy. Trailing 1-0, Mauricio Isla shocks the Bernabéu and gives the Bianconeri the qualification for the semi-finals.
But Juve won't endure the same luck against Bayern Munich. Pep Guardiola, after a sabbatical year, is successfully implementing his favoured tiki-taka style in Bavaria. In a special encounter in the Quarter-Finals, Guardiola is back at the Camp Nou after beating Barcelona 3-0 at the Allianz Arena, a comfortable advantage to qualify to the semis. There, they'll also beat Juventus on both legs without too much trouble.
The other semi-final is a bit more dramatic. Manchester United is experiencing the trauma of not having Alex Ferguson anymore, as David Moyes is not giving the expected results. The team is at risk of not qualifying for European competitions next year, but the board decides to keep Moyes until the end of the season as he manages to take the Red Devils to the semifinals. They face PSG, a team full of money who has started to become the dominant force in France. The Parisians are superior at Old Trafford for the whole match, but the final stretch of the match is absolutely crazy. First, Rooney scores in a corner kick in the 79th minute. PSG fans were dissapointed, but it wasn't too bad, right? Well, in the 90th, Rooney scores again after a defensive mistake by Maxwell. And just seconds after the kick-off, the English striker catches a bad pass from Matuidi to Sirigu to make it 3-0. Enough margin to survive a 3-1 defeat in Paris and book the ticket to the final, in Lisbon.
There, it was easy to see the differences between both teams. An easy victory by Bayern left no chance to United, and gave the Bavarians their fifth European Cup title and the third for Pep Guardiola. It's a Treble for the Bavarians and, if I'm not wrong, the first one since PSV Eindhoven in 1988 (because ITTL no European Cup winner has won it).
Full overview:
Who will win in 2015, in Berlin? These are the top favourites:
Defending champions Real Madrid are now guided by Carlo Ancelotti in the bench and have added Gareth Bale to their squad. The team progresses without issues in Europe until spring, where they face Juventus in the Quarter-Finals. The Bianconeri are a strong team again after their relegation to Serie B, and have conquered the last two Serie A under Antonio Conte, but European glory is still evading them. Against Los Blancos, Juve secures a thrilling 4-3 victory at home, but Real is confident for the second leg, knowing the comeback is easy. Trailing 1-0, Mauricio Isla shocks the Bernabéu and gives the Bianconeri the qualification for the semi-finals.
But Juve won't endure the same luck against Bayern Munich. Pep Guardiola, after a sabbatical year, is successfully implementing his favoured tiki-taka style in Bavaria. In a special encounter in the Quarter-Finals, Guardiola is back at the Camp Nou after beating Barcelona 3-0 at the Allianz Arena, a comfortable advantage to qualify to the semis. There, they'll also beat Juventus on both legs without too much trouble.
The other semi-final is a bit more dramatic. Manchester United is experiencing the trauma of not having Alex Ferguson anymore, as David Moyes is not giving the expected results. The team is at risk of not qualifying for European competitions next year, but the board decides to keep Moyes until the end of the season as he manages to take the Red Devils to the semifinals. They face PSG, a team full of money who has started to become the dominant force in France. The Parisians are superior at Old Trafford for the whole match, but the final stretch of the match is absolutely crazy. First, Rooney scores in a corner kick in the 79th minute. PSG fans were dissapointed, but it wasn't too bad, right? Well, in the 90th, Rooney scores again after a defensive mistake by Maxwell. And just seconds after the kick-off, the English striker catches a bad pass from Matuidi to Sirigu to make it 3-0. Enough margin to survive a 3-1 defeat in Paris and book the ticket to the final, in Lisbon.
There, it was easy to see the differences between both teams. An easy victory by Bayern left no chance to United, and gave the Bavarians their fifth European Cup title and the third for Pep Guardiola. It's a Treble for the Bavarians and, if I'm not wrong, the first one since PSV Eindhoven in 1988 (because ITTL no European Cup winner has won it).
Full overview:
Who will win in 2015, in Berlin? These are the top favourites:
- FC Bayern
- Atlético de Madrid
- Man City
- Juve
- PSG
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Simone Will have two tries for the champions, i hope the futbol champagne that he plays break the expectation of europe