The New Order: Last Days of Europe - An Axis Victory Cold War Mod for HoIIV

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Does Australia follow the British Government in Exile? Follow America's lead? Bygones be bygones with Japan and Italy? A Independent Land Down Under? (That one I would support the most given the fate of Great Britain and the US failing to beat Japan won't give much faith in America and Canada for more Aussies.) Dealing with the untold number of Asians, Europeans, and Africans fleeing from Nazi and Japanese rule? Fascist and Communists? Fortress Australia? Dreamtime Nukes? March into Indonesia? Back the Indonesian rebels?

The problem for any Japanese detente is the fact the ANZACs are 100% surrounded by the Japanese on all sides
 

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TNO challenge ratings: (courtesy of Panzer)
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sorry for being late, but why is Canada a class 4 challenge? who could be their enemy?
 
I did a quick Wiki search, and realised something... The Luftwaffe pilot here that almost managed to shoot down Powers' U2 was Hermann Graf, an actual German ace from OTL (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Graf). While we don't know the date when this event takes place, considering that the mod have a start date at 1962, that means that not only did the Nazi kept a 50 year-old WW2 veteran on the pilot sit (By comparison, in the USAF it is very unusual for a fight pilot to stay on active duty over the age of 45 due to just how physically demanding flight duty is), said 50 year-old veteran is also likely suffering from Parkinson's disease the entire time! (Graf was diagnosed with Parkinson's in 1965 in OTL, considering that the condition affected many former high-altitude flyers. As a butterfly of him being kept on active duty in the Luftwaffe instead of retiring to civilian life ITTL likely meant that his health would have deteriorated much faster as a result)
Some thoughts for the background. Graf shot down 212 planes IOTL and was two time heavy injured. ITTL he shot down 300 and propably avoided getting injured, which could be helpfull for his health. I assume he didn´t stayed in active service, because he is still a Oberst/colonel. So he returned to civilian life, but stays on reserve duty and takes every year enough flight hour to keep his pilot license. But the Luftwaffe fight two wars of attrition over Siberia and Africa, on a Super-Vietnam-level. If a pilot get shot down there, his head normally ends on a stick. The Luftwaffe bleeds dry and has to call in the reserve to fill the ranks, at least in backwater areas like Britain.
 
I spotted Fascist Thailand flag under German faction(I might be mistaken). I would have thought Siam would be in Japan faction since they treat us well enough (compare to other nation in Asia, which is not a high bar to pass).
 
I spotted Fascist Thailand flag under German faction(I might be mistaken). I would have thought Siam would be in Japan faction since they treat us well enough (compare to other nation in Asia, which is not a high bar to pass).

I saw RK Norwegen was in the OFN box, but I just assumed it was a bug at this stage in development.
 

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sorry for being late, but why is Canada a class 4 challenge? who could be their enemy?
Quebecois separatists?

Not to mention that similar to Canada's situation in Kaiserreich, with the country housing many of the British Exiles that fled when England fell to the Nazis, I am sure that there will be a bit of an internal conflict between the Canadians and the Exiles, with the latter perhaps wanting to turn the country into a pool of resources and manpower dedicated towards retaking the homeland above all else, while the former will be much more open towards a realpolitik approach, if not outright considering England to be a lost cause.

Another possible issue for the Canadians might be that with the collapse of the Commonwealth and much of Europe falling to the Nazis, even as a fellow OFN member, they might have a hard time staying economically and politically independent without being outright subsumed into becoming a US client state/'Little America' in everything but name. So they will need to work with the other OFN member states to keep the Americans' influence and dominance in check while still being heavily dependent on them. So lots of careful diplomacy and backdoor dealings will be required.
 
I spotted Fascist Thailand flag under German faction(I might be mistaken). I would have thought Siam would be in Japan faction since they treat us well enough (compare to other nation in Asia, which is not a high bar to pass).
Thailand, like all of SEA nations, is in the Sphere (Panzer himself admitted that starting screen is incomplete and full of errors, since it isn't a priority)
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I am Eagerly anticipating what you guys are going to do with Norway due to all of the different possibilities and everything from a continiued NS or Fedrelandslag collabritionist government to Milorg or Saborg winning and all the potential political developments that can come from that. If I can suggest a national socialist leader then I would suggest Henry Oliver Rinnan a famous thug that fought against the norwegian resistance.
 
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I wonder if Vituska's indepdendent Belarus (which is what I assume he is after) can ally itself with OUN Ukraine if/when they revolt from RK Ukraine. That could be very interesting, anti-russian and anti-german partisans. How they deal with Poland could be interesting too.
 

chankljp

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Just a quick question that I realised when re-reading the dev-diaries on Germany:

Given how the entire Nazi regime fell into civil war before Hitler's corpse was even cold, I don't think they were even able to organise a proper state funeral for him before the entire country turned into a war-zone. So.... What ended up happening to Hitler's body? Given all the parallels and reference with Alexander the Great, is the body going to be left in a Berlin hospital morgue for months as everyone is too busying fighting it out, until they all suddenly remembered where they had left him, and all the contenders starting fighting to take possession of the body like it is some sort of supernatural talisman, since having the Führer's body with you gives you side more political authority and legitimacy?
 
Just a quick question that I realised when re-reading the dev-diaries on Germany:

Given how the entire Nazi regime fell into civil war before Hitler's corpse was even cold, I don't think they were even able to organise a proper state funeral for him before the entire country turned into a war-zone. So.... What ended up happening to Hitler's body? Given all the parallels and reference with Alexander the Great, is the body going to be left in a Berlin hospital morgue for months as everyone is too busying fighting it out, until they all suddenly remembered where they had left him, and all the contenders starting fighting to take possession of the body like it is some sort of supernatural talisman, since having the Führer's body with you gives you side more political authority and legitimacy?

I’m pretty sure the civil war starts right after the funeral, but it’s not very clear.
 
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