The Monarchy of Mexico

[mspence]

WI the First Mexican Empire had been able to survive?

First Mexican Empire - Wikipedia

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Perhaps the following alternative is accepted?

The crown of the Mexican Empire was offered first to Ferdinand VII of Spain. Should he not present himself in Mexico within the time to be determined by the Mexican Cortes (parliament) to take the oath of office, the crown would then be offered in sequence to his brothers, the Infantes Carlos and Francisco, and cousin, Archduke Charles[3] or another individual of a royal house, whom the Cortes would determine. In the case that none of these accept the crown, the treaty then established that Cortes could designate a new king without specifying if the person needed to belong to a European royal house.

 

[Slime_blob]

I'm guessing Iturbide still like wields absolute politico military power, as he's the most popular guy for everyone especially the army.

Basically like The monarch is like the de Jure ruler while Iturbide (conservatives), Guerrero(Liberals), and co are the ones like on the ground who hold supreme powers.

 

[unprincipled peter]

Much depends on the quality of the monarch.

Ferdinand VII never showed any political ability, and was way too conservative/absolute to be able to bridge the ever widening chasm between conservatives and liberals. Never understood how it would work, anyway. He's King of Spain and isn't leaving there for Mexico. I don't think you can put the genie back in the bottle and have an absentee Emperor of Mexico. That one isn't lasting.

Carlos is also ultra conservative/absolute, but at least he could reside on Mexican soil. IF he can get over the absolute issue, he might be able to ride conservative power to control, allowing the country to stabilize, leaving the liberal/moderate reform for the next generation. Peninsulares will be replaced with Criollos, and the government will look to benefit Mexico rather than Spain, although that whole thing isn't happening overnight.

Francisco is more of an unknown. I think he was more moderate than his older brothers, so he might be grudgingly accepted by both sides, although in pleasing neither, he doesn't have a base to rule from. Being a Spanish Bourbon son, he would represent legitimacy, and thus might be able to act as a moderating force. Again, a lot depends on his political quality/ability.

And, Spain will have a big role in this. IF Ferdinand accepts the situation and looks to make the transition smooth, continuing trade, especially the mercury so desperately needed for mining, could lead to more stability in Mexico.

For Mexico to thrive, a base of stability is absolutely essential.

 

[Arariboia Guamá]

then established that Cortes could designate a new king without specifying if the person needed to belong to a European royal house.

Wacky idea: What if the Cortes instead decide to find an heir of the old native houses, like the Aztecs? Perhaps one of the descendants of Montezuma himself.

 

[unprincipled peter]

Wacky idea: What if the Cortes instead decide to find an heir of the old native houses, like the Aztecs? Perhaps one of the descendants of Montezuma himself.

Might lend legitimacy. But....
It also lends a lot of power/prestige to the natives, who were currently being trodden upon by pretty much everyone. The elites and the church are more interested in making money/retaining power than being cute, or fair.


The idea was floated in Argentina when they were looking for someone, anyone, who might have a legitimate claim to being king, but got no traction. Instead, they went the route of a Republic, where whomever fielded the biggest army got to be President.

 

[Wendell]

I wonder if the Duke of Cadiz might've been considered for the Second Empire had he not ended up as Isabella II's consort.

 

[Nivek]

Why a monarchy,just straight to republic and done