Timeline
This is a sequel thread to an earlier thread about the rise and rule of the Hungarian Emperors of the Eastern Roman Empire from 1180 to the early 1300s: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...the-six-emperors-–-1180-to-1330.490466/page-6
Modest retrospective changes will be made to the prior cannon of this timeline and explained as this thread progresses. Changes that have been decided upon as of now are:
We can raise the likelihood that the Cuman sympathies of Ladislaous could be just as stigmatised by the ATL Roman aristocracy as by his OTL Hungarian contemporaries but there will still be two major differences to the environment an ATL Ladislaous I, Emperor of the Romans, finds himself. First he sits atop the imperial bureaucratic system of Eastern Rome merged with the unitary kingdom of Hungary, not the feudal system with powerful magnates which developed in Hungary after the reign of OTL Andrew II. Those reforms did not occur here, at least not to the radical extent they did in OTL. Secondly, ATL Ladislaous I was less beholden to pressure from the Pope and the Papacy was in a far more tentative position when dealing with the East now. Still engaged in the Levant with Roman support and after successful Crusader campaigns in Egypt, the status of a few Cuman pagans in Hungary is a relative non-issue way down the list of priorities.
So those caveats to a OTL-like deposition and assassination (as occurred in 1290) now acknowledged, the fate of Ladislaous is one determined less by cultural tensions and more by his personal competence in leadership and keeping his vassals and subject content....
I think before we lay out a legacy of this ATL dynasty and a future ERE timeline we have to resolve the problem of Ladislaous.
Modest retrospective changes will be made to the prior cannon of this timeline and explained as this thread progresses. Changes that have been decided upon as of now are:
- The name of the last Hungarian Emperor, named in the former thread as Marios I, has been changed to his OTL Hellenized Hungarian equivalent Ladislaous I which also means he is named Ladislaus IV of Hungary, just like his OTL mirror self was.
- I have decided to instigate some sweeping changes to the chronology of events during the later dynasty basically replicating the events of the later Arpad Dynasty in Hungary. This includes the shortened reign of Emperor Stephanos I (r.1270-72). He dies of an illness like in OTL and I now assume this is unavoidable. Such was life back in the Middle Ages. Congenital heart condition? Cancer? An infection? Doesn't really matter, it wasn't well recorded. But he was with an army up in Hungary at the time regardless as he was defending against the invasion of Ottokar II of Bohemia.
- Emperor Ladislaous I succeeds his father upon his death in 1272 and concludes the war with Bohemia with the assistance of an upstart Hapsburg Austria and retains control of Hungary. This is where much of the focus of his reign remains as Hungary remains dependent on Roman military support during the invasions of Cuman renegades and Mongols during the 1280s.
We can raise the likelihood that the Cuman sympathies of Ladislaous could be just as stigmatised by the ATL Roman aristocracy as by his OTL Hungarian contemporaries but there will still be two major differences to the environment an ATL Ladislaous I, Emperor of the Romans, finds himself. First he sits atop the imperial bureaucratic system of Eastern Rome merged with the unitary kingdom of Hungary, not the feudal system with powerful magnates which developed in Hungary after the reign of OTL Andrew II. Those reforms did not occur here, at least not to the radical extent they did in OTL. Secondly, ATL Ladislaous I was less beholden to pressure from the Pope and the Papacy was in a far more tentative position when dealing with the East now. Still engaged in the Levant with Roman support and after successful Crusader campaigns in Egypt, the status of a few Cuman pagans in Hungary is a relative non-issue way down the list of priorities.
So those caveats to a OTL-like deposition and assassination (as occurred in 1290) now acknowledged, the fate of Ladislaous is one determined less by cultural tensions and more by his personal competence in leadership and keeping his vassals and subject content....
I think before we lay out a legacy of this ATL dynasty and a future ERE timeline we have to resolve the problem of Ladislaous.