The Fascist Republic of India: An alternate history of Independent India
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God forbid
New Delhi
Atal had been informed that he had been selected to be awarded for his bravery in Tibet. During the advance from Jammu and Kashmir he had single-handedly taken down an enemy nest, killing 5 with a grenade, shooting 4 more and taking down the remaining three with a fallen comrade's kirpan. Although this had not been publicised by the Indian government but Atal had also been responsible for executing three Tibetan citizens who had killed an INA soldier. It was not so much a retribution for the fallen soldier as it was a death sentence for burning an effigy of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose.
After the war in Tibet was over a lot of the army in there had been decommissioned but Atal was kept on and had been promoted to Captain, commanding his own company. His wife was pregnant with child due next month. He'd made himself home at Tibet. He had heard talk that Netaji wanted to resettle Tibet with Indians. The soldiers would be provided living quarters for their families. Even now a lot of labourers from Bihar and farmers from Punjab were coming into Tibet, especially Lhasa. The capital city was a ghost town. Apart from the few thousand new civilians, the rest were all soldiers. The native population had been fully decimated or imprisoned with only a few dozen remaining free. The Dalai Lama, they were told was at Mahatma Gandhi's asharam in Sabarmati. His palace was occupied by the General-Maharaj Sadul Singh. Atal had met him once when he was told of his gallantry award. He was a peculiarly short man. Atal wasn't much tall himself as compared to the Sardars and Pathans. Monsters is what they looked like. Ah yes Lhasa, well like I said the city was being rapidly Indianised. A big statue of Netaji was being erected and already a few Mandirs, Masjids and Gurudwaras had sprung up all around. The various Buddhist temples had either been converted into barracks or repurposed into the other three mentioned before. Three or four were still functioning for the remaining Tibetans.
Atal had also become good friends with a German officer named Captain Friedrich Schloz. 'Freddy' as Atal called him was surprisingly fluent in Hindi and had great knowledge of sanskrit. He and Atal often conversed in the latter. Freddy had been in the Hitler youth and then joined the German army. He had also met Hitler once too. He had managed to stow away with a platoon of Indian soldiers on an American ship. What irony, Atal thought. This was Freddy's first assignment after coming to India. There was still a big number of Tibetans around in Tibet apart from Lhasa. Freddy's contingent was here to ascertain how to make them all tow the line.
His wife had written to him telling him that her brother had come to meet her in Delhi. He told both her that both Atal's father and father-in-law were unhappy about the union. He was fine with it. His own girlfriend was a Hindu. Delhi had been treating her well. She had become a teacher at a school run by the Congress. The doctor had said that she looked healthy and that they should expect delivery by September. They were worried that she would lose her job due to her child but Netaji's announcement of mandatory paid maternity leave had relaxed them. They now loved him even more.
Their home had a little separate area for worship. On the right side was a bust of Lord Hanuman, on the left was kept a copy of the Quran.
In the middle of them both was a photograph of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose.
Madras
Netaji had arrived at the congress session at Madras, with rumours being rife and ranging from a declaration of war on Iran to an invasion of Ceylon. But the actual announcement was much milder. Netaji was going to announce his new cabinet. The congress leaders who had struggled to get freedom now were now looking to reap rewards. No one had the guts to go and ask Netaji himself for a cabinet berth. But they did hear that the Mahatma was being consulted about it and they continued to lobby him to put their name in. Gandhi listened to them patiently and assured them that he would try his best but the list had all been finalised. Surprisingly, Bose had agreed to all of Gandhi's pre-lobbying suggestions. Bose wanted to reward Gandhi's loyalty towards him and build more goodwill for him in congress. He would eventually give India democracy and this was a step into direction.
Although the ministers were not elected leaders and could be dismissed at Netaji's pleasure.
The Indian Cabinet:-
1.)Prime Minister and minister of atomic energy- Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose
2.)Minister of Home affairs- Sardar Vallabhai Patel
3.)Minister of External Affairs- Babasaheb Bhimrao Ambedkar
4.)Minister of Finance- Chintaman Dwarkanath Deshmukh
5.)Minister of Defence- Sardar Baldev Singh
6.)Minister of Commerce and Industry- Chakravarti Rajagopalachari
7.)Minister of Agriculture- Liaquat Ali Khan
8.)Minister of Health- Rajkumari Amrit Kaur
9.)Ministry of Education- Maulana Abul Kalam Azad
10.)Minister of Princely Affairs- Maharaja Yadvindra Singh
11.)Minister of Minority Affairs- Mohammad Ali Jinnah
12.)Minister of Labour- Jagjivan Ram
13.)Minister of Railways and Roadways - Sarojini Naidu
Commanders of the Armed Forces:-
1.)Chief of Army Staff- General Mohan Singh
2.)Chief of Naval Staff- Admiral Ram Dass Katari*
3.)Chief of Air Staff- Air Chief Marshal Subroto Mukherjee
Special Advisors to the Indian Government
Confidential advisors
Special Advisor to the Indian Navy- Admiral Osami Nagano
Advisors to the Indian intelligence agencies- Heinrich Himmler and Heinrich Müller**
*The Indian Navy at the moment only consists of a few frigates and a couple of sloops and other minor ships. There are no capital ships. Ram Dass Katari has been appointed to have an Indian at the top rank. His job is to help Nagano build up the navy. The Prime Minister hopes to have a proper functioning navy within the next five years. The primary objective of the navy is to be able to project power upto the claimed islands and then subsequently be capable of challenging the British Navy and be the most powerful navy in Asia.
**Both Heinrichs have been appointed to ranks in the Indian Army and to the rest of the world they are presumed dead. Currently they are assisting Shaukat Malik in the establishment and building of three primary intelligence agencies, namely-
Indian Bureau of Intelligence(IBI), Domestic
Indian Intelligence Agency(IIA), International
Military Intelligence Group(MIG), Military
Shaukat Malik serves as director of all three.
New York
"Sir, I am afraid the Prime Minister is very insistent on this. We never fired a single shot on any American soldier or on any Soviet for that matter. Our problem was with Britain. We grasped the opportunity and took our freedom. How can you justify excluding a country as big and important as India from this so called Security Council ? At the same time you want to award the position to a country embroiled in a bloody civil war."
"Bhim, China fought against Japan with us. And our contention is to give the permanent seat to the nationalists."
"Are you sure of the Nationalists' victory ?"
"I am reasonably assured of this yes."
"What if they lost ?"
"What do you mean ?"
"Given the President's distaste for Communism, I am sure you wouldn't want another communist state other than Russia on the council."
"No, we would not. Where are you going with this ?"
"What I am saying is that you'd want pro-american and capitalist state instead of a pro-soviet communist one."
"Right-
"And the only alternative that stands in place of the Chinese giant is the Indian behemoth, should the communists win, god forbid."
"God forbid."
Ambedkar took a sip of his water
"Well then, Mr. Secretary, from my vantage point, I have a clear vision of the future."
"What vision is that ?"
"Should the communists win, they'd come for Tibet. And we don't wish to pick an unnecessary fight with anyone."
"You'd give them Tibet ? That's-
"For the right price, yes and no sir. We want a permanent seat in your council. The United States stands to gain from having us as an ally against a Communist China. Give us the seat and we maintain a hostile position against the Communists and you can supply the Nationalists through India if you wish."
"You'd put boots on the ground ?"
"50,000 of our men already hold Tibet. There will be more if necessary."
"The President's directions are that without a base in Kolkata, nothing moves forward. Give us the port and you'll have everything you need."
"There's one caveat."
"What ?"
"We want something more in addition to the islands."
"Are you kidding me ? You want more territory ?"
"No, Mr. Secretary. We want your assistance."
"To do what ?"
"To build the Indian Navy, of course."
"Go on"
"I am given to understand that the US Navy currently operates 7000 ships. We'd like to ask for 30 ships be given to us as a gesture of our friendship and that you appoint officers to our navy as advisors for a period of ten years to train our own officer corps."
"And what do those thirty ships include ? An aircraft carrier perhaps ?"
"We wouldn't mind having it. We have a long coastline to protect. In fact we want two. The finer details can be worked out between our deputies."
"That's a big ask, Bhimrao. I will consult the President and get back to you."
"Thank you, James."
The Oval Office
"So now he wants us ? Didn't seem like that when he hung up on me."
"Ambedkar tells me that the Prime Minister is deeply regretful and seeks friendship with us. He's agreed to the base at Kolkata to be opened as soon as possible."
"And given us a plethora of other demands."
"Well, all due respect sir, they are not too unreasonable. And I think that we stand to gain from them."
"How so ?"
"Well for starters, I think that the Nationalists are going to lose the civil war. Without our troops on the ground they won't win. And if we send troops then so do the Soviets. Then there's the Congressional headache. The Indians are agreeing to hold Tibet against the commies and let us supply Chiang through their country."
"What about the carriers ?"
"Well, yes, that is a big ask. I am not inclined to agree to give two to them. But I think that we can train their officers in the states and then give them one. The other thirty ships would be some subs and destroyers. Nothing major. That way they are forced to rely on us."
"What if we are to reject the proposal ?"
"Then they'll go to the Russians. And the Kolkata deal falls through. It would be catastrophic then if Mao won. From the Baltics to Burma it would be all red."
"Dear god, James. You have a flair for the dramatic."
"I call em' as I see em' sir."
"Alright then, tell them that we agree to the terms. But only one carrier and they'll get it after three years. Let us start building the base and we"ll inaugurate by March. Regarding the permanent membership, I think we can work on expanding it. China is a wildcard. If they go communist, we'll need India to offset the balance."
"I'll let him know sir."
The following day
"We have a counter for you, Mr. Ambedkar."
"Alright, let's have it."
"1 carrier. After three years. And your officers are trained in the United States."
"Okay. What else ?"
"The base construction begins next month."
"What about the islands ?"
"First the base, then the islands."
"We have a deal, Mr. Secretary."
"Congratulations, Mr. Foreign Minister."
Winston Churchill was highly opposed to letting India into the United Nations let alone the Security Council. Clement Attlee however felt that the proposal was not as objectionable as the old dog made it out to be. British support could mean rapprochement between Britain and India. Britain still had business interests there. The support could get their assets unfrozen and they could get a favourable trade deal. He could personally persuade Bose. Churchill fucked Chamberlain's chances with Hitler. He wouldn't let him do the same thing to himself with Bose. There were still folks in India who didn't hate Britain that much. And vice versa. Attlee was still saddened about Nehru's death and the mass-scale killings of Indians in the United Kingdom. But he was the Prime Minister now. Not Churchill. India could have British support. The Bygones have to bygones he thought.
Stalin on the other hand was supportive of having India in the council. The USSR had base in Karachi. The first warm water port in Russian history. He had won the Great Game at last and wouldn't lose it to something as ridiculous as a position on the security council. And besides the Indians needed someone to bankroll their development. Bose had come to him before anyone. The dog always remains loyal to its master, thought Stalin. So Molotov told Truman that the Soviet Union agreed to expand the council to include India.
Chiang opposed the expansion. He demanded India vacate Tibet and Arunanchal and surrender it to Nationalist China, only then could any support be considered. Certain members of his cabinet weren't as opposed since Bose had respectfully repatriated over 80,000 Chinese prisoners back to their country. They thought that their stance would not matter if they lost the civil war and India's support in the war would be invaluable. The Chinese stance had heavy internal opposition but de jure it opposed expansion.
The French were the most willing to include India. They had their enclave in Pondicherry and had no desire to lose it.
The French and British support reminded Netaji of the days of the Carnatic wars. The pale-faces are once again vying to be included in India. Just as they begged the Mughals, they now wanted a friendly India again. But Bose was perturbed about and perhaps feared the retribution from the big powers. India had was in good place but was also in a bind.
In this love triangle, no matter who India choses, the other will want blood.
Atal had been informed that he had been selected to be awarded for his bravery in Tibet. During the advance from Jammu and Kashmir he had single-handedly taken down an enemy nest, killing 5 with a grenade, shooting 4 more and taking down the remaining three with a fallen comrade's kirpan. Although this had not been publicised by the Indian government but Atal had also been responsible for executing three Tibetan citizens who had killed an INA soldier. It was not so much a retribution for the fallen soldier as it was a death sentence for burning an effigy of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose.
After the war in Tibet was over a lot of the army in there had been decommissioned but Atal was kept on and had been promoted to Captain, commanding his own company. His wife was pregnant with child due next month. He'd made himself home at Tibet. He had heard talk that Netaji wanted to resettle Tibet with Indians. The soldiers would be provided living quarters for their families. Even now a lot of labourers from Bihar and farmers from Punjab were coming into Tibet, especially Lhasa. The capital city was a ghost town. Apart from the few thousand new civilians, the rest were all soldiers. The native population had been fully decimated or imprisoned with only a few dozen remaining free. The Dalai Lama, they were told was at Mahatma Gandhi's asharam in Sabarmati. His palace was occupied by the General-Maharaj Sadul Singh. Atal had met him once when he was told of his gallantry award. He was a peculiarly short man. Atal wasn't much tall himself as compared to the Sardars and Pathans. Monsters is what they looked like. Ah yes Lhasa, well like I said the city was being rapidly Indianised. A big statue of Netaji was being erected and already a few Mandirs, Masjids and Gurudwaras had sprung up all around. The various Buddhist temples had either been converted into barracks or repurposed into the other three mentioned before. Three or four were still functioning for the remaining Tibetans.
Atal had also become good friends with a German officer named Captain Friedrich Schloz. 'Freddy' as Atal called him was surprisingly fluent in Hindi and had great knowledge of sanskrit. He and Atal often conversed in the latter. Freddy had been in the Hitler youth and then joined the German army. He had also met Hitler once too. He had managed to stow away with a platoon of Indian soldiers on an American ship. What irony, Atal thought. This was Freddy's first assignment after coming to India. There was still a big number of Tibetans around in Tibet apart from Lhasa. Freddy's contingent was here to ascertain how to make them all tow the line.
His wife had written to him telling him that her brother had come to meet her in Delhi. He told both her that both Atal's father and father-in-law were unhappy about the union. He was fine with it. His own girlfriend was a Hindu. Delhi had been treating her well. She had become a teacher at a school run by the Congress. The doctor had said that she looked healthy and that they should expect delivery by September. They were worried that she would lose her job due to her child but Netaji's announcement of mandatory paid maternity leave had relaxed them. They now loved him even more.
Their home had a little separate area for worship. On the right side was a bust of Lord Hanuman, on the left was kept a copy of the Quran.
In the middle of them both was a photograph of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose.
Madras
Netaji had arrived at the congress session at Madras, with rumours being rife and ranging from a declaration of war on Iran to an invasion of Ceylon. But the actual announcement was much milder. Netaji was going to announce his new cabinet. The congress leaders who had struggled to get freedom now were now looking to reap rewards. No one had the guts to go and ask Netaji himself for a cabinet berth. But they did hear that the Mahatma was being consulted about it and they continued to lobby him to put their name in. Gandhi listened to them patiently and assured them that he would try his best but the list had all been finalised. Surprisingly, Bose had agreed to all of Gandhi's pre-lobbying suggestions. Bose wanted to reward Gandhi's loyalty towards him and build more goodwill for him in congress. He would eventually give India democracy and this was a step into direction.
Although the ministers were not elected leaders and could be dismissed at Netaji's pleasure.
The Indian Cabinet:-
1.)Prime Minister and minister of atomic energy- Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose
2.)Minister of Home affairs- Sardar Vallabhai Patel
3.)Minister of External Affairs- Babasaheb Bhimrao Ambedkar
4.)Minister of Finance- Chintaman Dwarkanath Deshmukh
5.)Minister of Defence- Sardar Baldev Singh
6.)Minister of Commerce and Industry- Chakravarti Rajagopalachari
7.)Minister of Agriculture- Liaquat Ali Khan
8.)Minister of Health- Rajkumari Amrit Kaur
9.)Ministry of Education- Maulana Abul Kalam Azad
10.)Minister of Princely Affairs- Maharaja Yadvindra Singh
11.)Minister of Minority Affairs- Mohammad Ali Jinnah
12.)Minister of Labour- Jagjivan Ram
13.)Minister of Railways and Roadways - Sarojini Naidu
Commanders of the Armed Forces:-
1.)Chief of Army Staff- General Mohan Singh
2.)Chief of Naval Staff- Admiral Ram Dass Katari*
3.)Chief of Air Staff- Air Chief Marshal Subroto Mukherjee
Special Advisors to the Indian Government
Confidential advisors
Special Advisor to the Indian Navy- Admiral Osami Nagano
Advisors to the Indian intelligence agencies- Heinrich Himmler and Heinrich Müller**
*The Indian Navy at the moment only consists of a few frigates and a couple of sloops and other minor ships. There are no capital ships. Ram Dass Katari has been appointed to have an Indian at the top rank. His job is to help Nagano build up the navy. The Prime Minister hopes to have a proper functioning navy within the next five years. The primary objective of the navy is to be able to project power upto the claimed islands and then subsequently be capable of challenging the British Navy and be the most powerful navy in Asia.
**Both Heinrichs have been appointed to ranks in the Indian Army and to the rest of the world they are presumed dead. Currently they are assisting Shaukat Malik in the establishment and building of three primary intelligence agencies, namely-
Indian Bureau of Intelligence(IBI), Domestic
Indian Intelligence Agency(IIA), International
Military Intelligence Group(MIG), Military
Shaukat Malik serves as director of all three.
New York
"Sir, I am afraid the Prime Minister is very insistent on this. We never fired a single shot on any American soldier or on any Soviet for that matter. Our problem was with Britain. We grasped the opportunity and took our freedom. How can you justify excluding a country as big and important as India from this so called Security Council ? At the same time you want to award the position to a country embroiled in a bloody civil war."
"Bhim, China fought against Japan with us. And our contention is to give the permanent seat to the nationalists."
"Are you sure of the Nationalists' victory ?"
"I am reasonably assured of this yes."
"What if they lost ?"
"What do you mean ?"
"Given the President's distaste for Communism, I am sure you wouldn't want another communist state other than Russia on the council."
"No, we would not. Where are you going with this ?"
"What I am saying is that you'd want pro-american and capitalist state instead of a pro-soviet communist one."
"Right-
"And the only alternative that stands in place of the Chinese giant is the Indian behemoth, should the communists win, god forbid."
"God forbid."
Ambedkar took a sip of his water
"Well then, Mr. Secretary, from my vantage point, I have a clear vision of the future."
"What vision is that ?"
"Should the communists win, they'd come for Tibet. And we don't wish to pick an unnecessary fight with anyone."
"You'd give them Tibet ? That's-
"For the right price, yes and no sir. We want a permanent seat in your council. The United States stands to gain from having us as an ally against a Communist China. Give us the seat and we maintain a hostile position against the Communists and you can supply the Nationalists through India if you wish."
"You'd put boots on the ground ?"
"50,000 of our men already hold Tibet. There will be more if necessary."
"The President's directions are that without a base in Kolkata, nothing moves forward. Give us the port and you'll have everything you need."
"There's one caveat."
"What ?"
"We want something more in addition to the islands."
"Are you kidding me ? You want more territory ?"
"No, Mr. Secretary. We want your assistance."
"To do what ?"
"To build the Indian Navy, of course."
"Go on"
"I am given to understand that the US Navy currently operates 7000 ships. We'd like to ask for 30 ships be given to us as a gesture of our friendship and that you appoint officers to our navy as advisors for a period of ten years to train our own officer corps."
"And what do those thirty ships include ? An aircraft carrier perhaps ?"
"We wouldn't mind having it. We have a long coastline to protect. In fact we want two. The finer details can be worked out between our deputies."
"That's a big ask, Bhimrao. I will consult the President and get back to you."
"Thank you, James."
The Oval Office
"So now he wants us ? Didn't seem like that when he hung up on me."
"Ambedkar tells me that the Prime Minister is deeply regretful and seeks friendship with us. He's agreed to the base at Kolkata to be opened as soon as possible."
"And given us a plethora of other demands."
"Well, all due respect sir, they are not too unreasonable. And I think that we stand to gain from them."
"How so ?"
"Well for starters, I think that the Nationalists are going to lose the civil war. Without our troops on the ground they won't win. And if we send troops then so do the Soviets. Then there's the Congressional headache. The Indians are agreeing to hold Tibet against the commies and let us supply Chiang through their country."
"What about the carriers ?"
"Well, yes, that is a big ask. I am not inclined to agree to give two to them. But I think that we can train their officers in the states and then give them one. The other thirty ships would be some subs and destroyers. Nothing major. That way they are forced to rely on us."
"What if we are to reject the proposal ?"
"Then they'll go to the Russians. And the Kolkata deal falls through. It would be catastrophic then if Mao won. From the Baltics to Burma it would be all red."
"Dear god, James. You have a flair for the dramatic."
"I call em' as I see em' sir."
"Alright then, tell them that we agree to the terms. But only one carrier and they'll get it after three years. Let us start building the base and we"ll inaugurate by March. Regarding the permanent membership, I think we can work on expanding it. China is a wildcard. If they go communist, we'll need India to offset the balance."
"I'll let him know sir."
The following day
"We have a counter for you, Mr. Ambedkar."
"Alright, let's have it."
"1 carrier. After three years. And your officers are trained in the United States."
"Okay. What else ?"
"The base construction begins next month."
"What about the islands ?"
"First the base, then the islands."
"We have a deal, Mr. Secretary."
"Congratulations, Mr. Foreign Minister."
Winston Churchill was highly opposed to letting India into the United Nations let alone the Security Council. Clement Attlee however felt that the proposal was not as objectionable as the old dog made it out to be. British support could mean rapprochement between Britain and India. Britain still had business interests there. The support could get their assets unfrozen and they could get a favourable trade deal. He could personally persuade Bose. Churchill fucked Chamberlain's chances with Hitler. He wouldn't let him do the same thing to himself with Bose. There were still folks in India who didn't hate Britain that much. And vice versa. Attlee was still saddened about Nehru's death and the mass-scale killings of Indians in the United Kingdom. But he was the Prime Minister now. Not Churchill. India could have British support. The Bygones have to bygones he thought.
Stalin on the other hand was supportive of having India in the council. The USSR had base in Karachi. The first warm water port in Russian history. He had won the Great Game at last and wouldn't lose it to something as ridiculous as a position on the security council. And besides the Indians needed someone to bankroll their development. Bose had come to him before anyone. The dog always remains loyal to its master, thought Stalin. So Molotov told Truman that the Soviet Union agreed to expand the council to include India.
Chiang opposed the expansion. He demanded India vacate Tibet and Arunanchal and surrender it to Nationalist China, only then could any support be considered. Certain members of his cabinet weren't as opposed since Bose had respectfully repatriated over 80,000 Chinese prisoners back to their country. They thought that their stance would not matter if they lost the civil war and India's support in the war would be invaluable. The Chinese stance had heavy internal opposition but de jure it opposed expansion.
The French were the most willing to include India. They had their enclave in Pondicherry and had no desire to lose it.
The French and British support reminded Netaji of the days of the Carnatic wars. The pale-faces are once again vying to be included in India. Just as they begged the Mughals, they now wanted a friendly India again. But Bose was perturbed about and perhaps feared the retribution from the big powers. India had was in good place but was also in a bind.
In this love triangle, no matter who India choses, the other will want blood.
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Perhaps. Bose would want a government run by the Indians to replace the one run by the whites. OTL Gandhi was pretty racist to South African Black people. Maybe he'll send more migrants and then foment a coup against the British. An Indo-black government is ideal for Bose.
Care to elaborate on this ? @Seandineen
Yeah man I've read about this but if India hasn't exploited these reserves even 75 years after Independence, I doubt they might be able to do so ITTL, given the limited infrastructure and capital. I will have do some more research to check if this can be possibly done.
Agree with the diamond and Uranium point.
Regarding Tibet gentlemen, I think this is going to be the other Korea ITTL. The commies in China will win the war and will come for Tibet. Bose is much likely to tow the American line in exchange for their backing then venture Independently with China. China won't be strong at least until 1978.
The worst part about Tibet for India will be the Soviet enmity.
The worst part about Tibet for India will be the Soviet enmity.
Mind you, the reserves were not found till the 1960s. Since then, many companies have been trying to get the oil pulled out of the area. Being a socialist economy with moronic leaders with zero sane economic policy, the Indian political apparatus just treated this as their personal money-making scheme instead of strengthening the nation. Very limited explorations were done and most of them were fought over in Indian courts. And you know how long court proceedings can be dragged out in India.
I think they might be rather concerned about the huge Jewish presence within the Indian government, army and almost every lever of power in India. There was quite a huge Jewish presence in the halls of power of India, especially in Delhi, Kolkata, Mumbai and Kochi. Remember General Jack Farj Rafael Jacob. He led the Indian army into battle against Pakistan in 1971 and the guy went on to become the governor of Goa and Punjab.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if the Nazis get assassinated in India. There is quite a large Jewish diaspora in India and they were quite influential at the time. Not to mention the Gypsies. Almost every persecuted race on Earth has a home in India. So, a Nazi might find it very hard to survive in India for long.
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Either way, it would be hilarious for them to see Jews still surviving and succeeding with them eventually getting killed.
Though Jews were there in India, they were nowhere near as prominent as they were in USA or Europe, as such their presence would be minimal
In numbers, yes. Not all Indian Jews were exactly refugees. A better portion of them were descendants of traders who made their home in India going back before the birth of Christ. However, Jewish and Zoroastrian presence in India was quite significant when it comes to influence.
Jews are still no where near as influential as say, Zoroastrians, who truely are heavyweights and punch above their weight in influence. Other than Jacob, I really cannot recall any other prominent Indian Jew post Independence
There was an article in the Times of India. I'm looking for the link. It held all the major Jewish influencers of Independent India. It was quite a huge list. Only General Jacob's name comes to my mind. There were even quite a few Bollywood actors as well.
They are very few and far between with only a few names. Mostly actors and thats about it. Not really the type of widespread social and economic influence like Jains or Parsis
The zoroastrians were a strong link to the international economic system. The Jews of the east, as they were known, served as educators, and bankers in India and SriLanka.
ahmedali
Banned
Since they helped Bose
I think they should be given a status similar to what Indonesia granted to Yogyakarta and the other sultanates that helped Indonesian aganiest netherlands
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ahmedali
Banned
Your work is great
If India succeeds in achieving independence early
Can other colonies do the same (such as Egypt, Iraq and Africa)
In doing the same with the support of India
Regarding China, it is better to make the nationalists win, because a powerful bloc like India and China as allies of the United States would be very valuable against the Soviets.
Can a united India form an alliance with the kingdoms of the Middle East and the kingdoms of Iran, Afghanistan and Indochina as a way to extend influence
If India succeeds in achieving independence early
Can other colonies do the same (such as Egypt, Iraq and Africa)
In doing the same with the support of India
Regarding China, it is better to make the nationalists win, because a powerful bloc like India and China as allies of the United States would be very valuable against the Soviets.
Can a united India form an alliance with the kingdoms of the Middle East and the kingdoms of Iran, Afghanistan and Indochina as a way to extend influence
In OTL, it was the USSR that pushed the decolonization effort. I think this would be a common point of convergence between India and the USSR. It's just that this time, India might be more hands-on in 'liberating' European colonies. There is one in India's backyard, Sri Lanka. I think Mr Bose would be looking to dislodge the British from the Indian Ocean and deny them any of the ports there including the island chains of Maldives. Perhaps, Mr Bose might even conquer the Maldives and force an accession into the Indian Union.
ahmedali
Banned
very intresting
Not only the Maldives but also all the islands of the Indian Ocean or which have large Indian minorities (Seychelles and Mauritius can be one of them because they have large Indian communities)
Will Aden be among these places that the Indians will take??
Will Boss and Sukarno be allies (considering that this India is similar to Indonesia in the way it liberates)
And if the West Papua crisis continues to occur, can we see the Indonesian annexation of all Papua if it leads to a war between Indonesia and Australia, and the annexation of all Burino if Sukarno, with the support of the Indians, is more stubborn towards Malaysia
(With the support of India and China, if the nationalists win, Boss will inevitably support them, because despite his favorable view of the Soviets, he will inevitably be anti-communist.)
As for the Middle East, can their kingdoms survive if they imitate India Boss (losing India early will encourage everyone to revolt there, especially Egypt and Iraq)
Aden and Seychelles are too different but Mauritius is well within reach
The Author has stated that he wishes Indonesia to be an Indian Ally
Nationlist China will not survive in mainland China because of a few extra guns and support from a nearby neighbour, the downfall of the nation has already begun since 1944 and the momentum crushing the nation is unlikely to be stopped, unless the US decides to gets directly involved with a costly war against the PRC.
As for the Middle East its unlikely for most of the Kingdoms to survive simply because they were too unpopular with the people and its unlikely that India becoming fully Independent would change that.
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They were not popular because they allied themselves with Britain only that's why
The example of India will encourage them and the kings may survive if they decide correctly to support an independent India and to ally against Britain and revolt against them and they may regain their popularity
(Just as the Indian princes did and made an alliance with Bose, the King of Egypt could nationalize Suez against Britain in support of India, the Shah of Iran and the Iraqi government would nationalize oil, and India’s early independence might encourage a chaotic collapse of the British Empire if a domino effect occurred)
As for Aden, Boss can claim that it was part of the Raj, so he takes it or helps the Yemeni kingdom and they take it
Regarding China, the Kuomintang could win if Chiang ignored the ceasefire or if Stalin decided not to support Mao
And if complete victory is not possible, the scenario of the two Chinas, such as East and West Germany, is completely possible