The Day After Tomorrow

Legosim

I just finished watching this movie, and the thought crossed my mind, as it has many times before. Where do you think the Earth is headed geopolitically and socially after the events of this movie? Obviously many nations such as Russia, Canada, Germany, Great Britain, France, Sweden, etc have all basically been permanently removed from the equation. Possibly even the US, because it seems the only livable areas in North America are basically south of the 35th parallel, give or take. Is America finished? Will nations such as Mexico, Australia, etc become the leaders of the world? It seemed as if China escaped relatively unscathed compared to every other major player in world politics.

Again, this may seem rather messy, random, and un-thought-out, but I just want some other people's opinion on this.
 

Polish Eagle

Mexico-America Union is likely. In Europe, I guess Spain, Turkey, Greece, and Italy are the only remaining real powers. Possible Mediterranean Alliance. In Asia, Russia is gone, and its refugees are in Georgia and the Black Sea region. However, the climate map visible on the laptop in one scene shows China is also frozen over. India, I guess, is the major superpower in the world right now.
 

Sovereign12

Dave Howery said:
mass starvation for many... the best agricultural land in the world just got flash frozen...
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At least for ~3 years, by then the new bread basket zones will be clearly known. Most likely Brazil as the Amazon rainforest will disappear as the grasslands spread towards the equator. That is what SA was like during the last Ice Age and with forest burn back now to create farmland there I only see it increasing to produce more food.

With the amount of glaciation that occured in the movie new land must have been exposed. So, the US and Mexico will now have new lands to colonize and farm (map below of the last Ice Age). It will take time, but it will happen. Of course, one of the first priorities of most nations will be building new ports, since most will now be way back in newly exposed land.

As to the US It will still be a major player even if it doesn't form a union with Mexico. It has nuke carrying subs and most of the navy still. Most of the Army, Marines, Airforce, and Coast Guard would have been moved south also. Just to handle the evacuations.

I also think that most of those people now in the southern half of the US and Mexico would also be Canadians. Maybe not as many citizens of Canada made it south, but I'm sure allot would have. Plus the fact that so many people survived in NY, people probably survived in other US and Canadian cities.

What it comes down to is that Mexico will be forced to accede to a union because even if a war erupted between Mexico and the remainder of the US/Canada, Mexico will still loose. Not just from a stand point of a military issue, but the fact that there are millions of people who will need food and will move into Mexico for it anyway. So, this is where the rise of Brazil as a major power comes in, with it's rise as a major producer of grains and cattle. The US/Mexico/Canada union would probably be called the United States of North America.

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Volksgrenadier2006

Some of my points of interest in that map:

- Land increase. Especially the East Australiasia countries have massively benefited from the land increase, as has Argentina. Of course because of all the salt etc it will still take some time before it can be turned into agricultural useful land and even then not every meter can be made productive, but still these are the countries with massive populations and now they suddenly are given a chance to better feed themselves.

- The Persian golf has dried and I quote from wiki now (for which I ask forgiveness ;) ) "This represents 40% of the world's seaborne oil shipments, and 20% of all world shipments"
I don't know how much of a problem this will be, as the vast majority of industries have been destroyed, but then again, vast amounts of the oil production has been destroyed as well.
I think that oil consumption will rise again very fast after the initial shock of global cooling.

-And as already stated, all ports are useless now. This will result in a mass starvation and in (inter)national power shifting on its own.
 
Alex Richards

Alex Richards

Donor
I think the Sattelite pictures (particularly of Europe) are showing ice sheet+ snow, so some of southern France, Germany and the Danube valley will be inhabitable. US south of St. Louis is probable, as is Southern China. Brazil gets a big boost, Iran's probably been invaded by Russians and Central Asians, North Korea's gone and what communist nations remain will probably fall swiftly.
 

Polish Eagle

No one else things it looks good for India now? They seem to have suffered least, and, according to the laptop projections shown in the movie, china's mostly frozen.
 

Legosim

Well, the water level has substantially risen also hasn't it? Iirc, they mentioned long island was completely underwater and frozen over. I was thinking, as Soveriegn mentioned, some kind of union between Mexico and the US is propably going to happen in the near future.

The thing is though, is that the pictures from the space station show every square inch of land in Europe completely covered in ice, all the way down to Sicily.
 

hopper2cool

Legosim said:
Well, the water level has substantially risen also hasn't it? Iirc, they mentioned long island was completely underwater and frozen over. I was thinking, as Soveriegn mentioned, some kind of union between Mexico and the US is propably going to happen in the near future.

The thing is though, is that the pictures from the space station show every square inch of land in Europe completely covered in ice, all the way down to Sicily.
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Wait there is ice everywhere and the ocean levels have risen? I know it's a movie and disaster porn at that but where does all that water come from?
 

Polish Eagle

hopper2cool said:
Wait there is ice everywhere and the ocean levels have risen? I know it's a movie and disaster porn at that but where does all that water come from?
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I thought the Manhattan flooding was just an enormous storm surge? It makes sense that, after that ice sheet forms, ocean levels are lower further away.
 

BlackWave

What happened to Australia? Nobody seems to have mentioned, and there is modern civilization down there, believe it or not. ;)
 

Legosim

I was under the impression water levels had risen globally, I guess I am mistaken.

Australia, I believe was relatively untouched, because the Storms really didn't effect much else besides the northern hemisphere iirc. Would be cool to see Australia become a superpower.
 

mattep74

I got the impression that everyone above the Rhine river in Europe would be dead from the storms. Scandinavia had a supercell above it in the scene were they showed all storms so we probably froze to death at once.
 

Bavarian Raven

Banned
I got the impression that everyone above the Rhine river in Europe would be dead from the storms. Scandinavia had a supercell above it in the scene were they showed all storms so we probably froze to death at once.
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if u were properly equipped, u wouldnt freeze to death. minus 80-90 is survivable with the proper clothing (which, surprisingly enough, wouldnt make u a marshmellow), and a source of heat (hope u got a cord or two of wood stacked up), and food. i always thought (and know) they exaggerated the effects of such storms in the movie
 

Admiral Brown

How many Americans and Canadians do you think that died in the scenario depicted in the film? How many Europeans? These're important question if we want to guess the future of the U.S., Canada and Europe.
 
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