At least Tibet seems being independent. Xinjiang probably is part of China. Manchuria pretty surely since it was already almost completely sinified by 1940's.
The Anglo/American - Nazi War - The on-going mystery
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At least Tibet seems being independent. Xinjiang probably is part of China. Manchuria pretty surely since it was already almost completely sinified by 1940's.
If they are successful?
Think First Contact with the New World Pandemic, but faster.
The KMT and Mao lost.
As far as I can tell in terms of Biological weapons, Unit 731 only experimented in methods of distributions of known diseases. What the Cabal is doing would require (for the most part) a new virus. Note, there are known viruses where genetic factors which are not evenly distributed among the races do make a difference. (One of the studies of the man who won the Biology Noble Prize indicated that certain Genes believed to come from interbreeding of Homo Sapiens with Neandertals (and thus more common in Caucasians) led to worse effects for those that have gotten Covid-19. However, I'm not sure that any currently known diseases that reach what the Cabal is looking for (or the equivalent). IMO, you would need at least a 50% greater death rate among non-Han Chinese than Han Chinese to accomplish this. However, I'm sure that a 95% death rate among Caucasians and a 30% death rate among non-Caucasians (Including Han Chinese) would probably be viewed as a good start.
I don’t know if you have heard of Keith Lowe’s excellent 2012 book Savage Continent, which is quite eye-opening on the under-examined nature of how post-apocalyptic post-WWII Europe was in OTL.
https://astrofella.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/savage-continent-keith-lowe/
I'd be afraid to see a similar description of TTL!
https://astrofella.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/savage-continent-keith-lowe/
I'd be afraid to see a similar description of TTL!
Calbear previously stated that TTL’s Europe in 1960 makes OTL 1945 Europe look like a five-star resort in Cancún. So I would think Mad Max and Fallout combined, but with 1950s military technology and without the mutants.
He refused to elaborate further because it would be too horrible to write about. It’s similar to how the Nazis didn’t stuff kidnapped children in their fortresses only for the Allies to bomb them anyway even though that’s something well within Nazi morality.
Speaking of Nazis, what happened to
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In this timeline (and in any Axis victory, at least with an Axis victory against the Soviet Union), will the belief that "Russia cannot be conquered or defeated by foreign invaders" still be widespread and accepted (cliched) or will it be refuted by Germany's victory against the Soviet Union?
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That notion would probably not exist anymore as the USSR was defeated by the Germans. However, the entirety of Russia was not conquered so somehow we could have "The Germans managed to defeat the Russians but no conquer the whole land."
From what I can think, the cabal are made of people who were soldiers in the time of the sino Japanese war, so no known figures from OTL. Is that right?
Historiography in an Axis Victory Scenario
So let's presume the standart Axis Victory Scenario: The Wehrmacht crushes the BEF at Dunkirk, and as a result Britain is forced to sign an armistice with Germany in early 1941. With the war in the west over, Germany invades the USSR in mid 1941, overwhelming the Red Army. Germany secures the...
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The effect of AH on pre-POD historiography
What I mean by this rather clumsy title is a subject which I feel some AH authors often neglect. We tend to assume that anything before the POD of a timeline is set in stone, by definition. However, it is not unreasonable to suppose that historians within the world of that timeline will be much...
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So, in this timeline's Germany (and any Axis victory Germany), Sparta's victory against Athens can be used to "predict Axis (, fascist and militarist) victory in advance against democracies and communism, especially communism". Plus Nazi German historiography will see Prussia and the rest of Germany being the key victors of the Seven Years War and the Napoleonic Wars, ignoring the important contributions to those wars' outcome of Britain and Russia in this timeline.
I Think that the Cabal are Han Ultra-nationalist heavily inspired by the Nazies, but also Imperial Japanese.
It seems that the Nazi victory also have devastating consequences on East Asia, but this isn't apparent.
Still a post about rise of Ultra-nationalist Nazi faction of Chinese civil War would be interesting.
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Okay. Here ya go- 1961 – Full independence of India, already a practical fact, granted exactly 365 days after final defeat of Third Reich. “Year of Hunger” across Europe. With destruction of machinery, casualties due to being caught in a war zone, bio-weapons, loss of draft animals and other...
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@CalBear looks like the Philippines here is more accepting of WMDs in their soil.
As a Filipino, I could tell you that the Philippine government forbade the U.S. from storing nukes, having SSBNs dock in Subic, B-52s land in Clark, or even overflights. B-52s transiting from the South China Sea to Guam or vice-versa had to pass the Luzon Strait instead.
However, this OTL policy did not stop the U.S. from having nukes on board warships that were docked on Subic.
US stored nukes in Philippines under Marcos–Bayan
The United States government secretly stored nuclear weapons in the Philippines during the Marcos dictatorship, according to the militant Bagong Alyansang Makabayan (Bayan). Citing a declassified
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Philippine Bases and U.S. Nuclear Weapons Policy
Author(s): Schirmer, Daniel Boone | Abstract: In 1947, when the newly independent Philippine government granted the United States the right to use military bases at Subic Bay and Clark Air Field, the United States government saw to it that the terms included the right of the U.S. to install on...
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Post War ATL is VERY different from OTL.The Anglo/American - Nazi War
Okay. Here ya go- 1961 – Full independence of India, already a practical fact, granted exactly 365 days after final defeat of Third Reich. “Year of Hunger” across Europe. With destruction of machinery, casualties due to being caught in a war zone, bio-weapons, loss of draft animals and other...www.alternatehistory.com
@CalBear looks like the Philippines here is more accepting of WMDs in their soil.
As a Filipino, I could tell you that the Philippine government forbade the U.S. from storing nukes, having SSBNs dock in Subic, B-52s land in Clark, or even overflights. B-52s transiting from the South China Sea to Guam or vice-versa had to pass the Luzon Strait instead.
However, this OTL policy did not stop the U.S. from having nukes on board warships that were docked on Subic.
US stored nukes in Philippines under Marcos–Bayan
The United States government secretly stored nuclear weapons in the Philippines during the Marcos dictatorship, according to the militant Bagong Alyansang Makabayan (Bayan). Citing a declassified
1983 article:
Philippine Bases and U.S. Nuclear Weapons Policy
Author(s): Schirmer, Daniel Boone | Abstract: In 1947, when the newly independent Philippine government granted the United States the right to use military bases at Subic Bay and Clark Air Field, the United States government saw to it that the terms included the right of the U.S. to install on...escholarship.org
The Filipinos too would be concerned about genocide, especially what the Japanese did in Bataan or an alternate version of the Manila Massacre, which may have still happened in ATL but earlier.
They too would be horrified at how Europe was wasted in a WWII that lasted until 1960. Since the Philippines is too close to Cabal China, the MIRVs would be tolerated. Maybe station more in the Cordilleras or the Sierra Madre Mountan Range in Luzon.
The Soviet Union's history will consist of one military embarrassment after another. The Polish-Soviet War was a defeat for Lenin, the Winter War was an overly bloody partial success swiftly undone in 1941-1942, and their performance in the last phase of the war...best not to mention it. The only unmitigated success they can claim will have been their invasion of Poland in 1939--and even that will be criticized for overstretching their lines (I imagine it will be popular ITTL to claim that the Soviet Union would have been much harder to conquer if they hadn't moved so many forces into occupied Poland), and tainted by the fact that they were essentially pouncing on a country the Germans had already mostly beaten. And the Tsarist history before that is not exactly shiny--the war against Japan was lost, the Crimean War was lost, the Napoleonic War saw Moscow occupied, and of course the failures of WWI. Honestly, ITTL Moscow's military reputation will be closer to "surrender monkeys" than "unstoppable juggernaut."
As a side note, since Ho Chi Minh is still going to be a prominent figure in Vietnam's political history but it's been stated that communism's appeal was greatly reduced, I imagine that he de-emphasized his own leftist inclinations in favor of more generic anti-French nationalism. "Taking the red tram to the stop labeled independence," to borrow from another socialist who did so. Would that assessment be correct?
I imagine that the main stereotype of communism in this TL won't be the "they killed 300 billions" but instead "Communism is stupid". We can expect the communist villains in media to be shown as stupid and ineffective and games like Company of Heroes 2 being more well accepted.
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You may also see a greater effort by remaining Communist groups to disavow Stalin. Emphasize his murderous one man "Red Tsar" style of rule and how far that is from collective government. He hijacked the revolution and caused disaster. Etc...
Killed as the other "subhumans", especially if they learn his mother was Jewish.