The Anglo/American - Nazi War - The on-going mystery

Out of curiosity, what will the climate change crisis look like ITTL/is there even a climate change dilemma?
Its probably inevitable although the Nukings and lack of all that Soviet and Chinese industry could slow things down quite a bit.

Also large areas of Eurasia are a polluted mess anyway with alot of nasty chemicals in the water table. Even of climate change itself is averted the A4 and the Nazi's made quite enough mess to be going on with.
 
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Its probably inevitable although the Nukings and lack of all that Soviet and Chinese industry could slow things down quite a bit.

Also large areas of Eurasia are a polluted mess anyway with alot of nasty chemicals in the water table. Even of climate change itself is averted the A4 and the Nazi's made quite enough mess to be going on with.
I would think TTL climate change has been considerably slowed. The biggest contributor to climate change is fossil fuel burning power plants. ITTL, the majority of power is provided by nuclear solar and wind.
 

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I would think TTL climate change has been considerably slowed. The biggest contributor to climate change is fossil fuel burning power plants. ITTL, the majority of power is provided by nuclear solar and wind.
Pretty much. There was also something of an impact, not up to a Global Autumn, but an impact from the number of nuclear strikes and even from the Stettin Event.

Overall, however, the amount of no fossil fuel energy used in the U.S. is a fraction of OTL. Lots of additional Hydro, LOTS of additional Nuclear, and a MASSIVE amount of solar, not just in the U.S., but across the A4, India, the Philippines, Vietnam, and the South American Tigers. Even Europe is pulled back together enough to have the resources to spend on renewables.

The anti-nuke advocates of OTL would go pale at the ATL level of usage, not to mention the willingness of the major players to use the Australian and Saipan mass drivers to send waste into space (mainly into lunar orbit, off the ecliptic plain, just in case some new tech is discovered that can make use of the stuff). No Nukes just doesn't really have the political firepower of OTL.
 
What was the OSS/CIA doing during the Warm and Hot Wars? What sorts of covert actions did they do? Was any equivalent of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty created?
 
What was the OSS/CIA doing during the Warm and Hot Wars? What sorts of covert actions did they do? Was any equivalent of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty created?
The SOE didn't stayed idle, and the Beeb broadcasted anti-Axis propaganda, although Nazis had severe punishments for using radios for this (i.e. a one-way trip to the nearest KZ, with bounties payed to denouncers).
 

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Well, it's a compelling world, what can I say?

...is Prague eventually okay?
Eventually?

The city recovered although it suffered vastly more damage than IOTL thanks to the Reich practice of mass destruction of historically or culturally significant sites during the retreat into inner Germany. It would up better off than Paris ATL, but much of the glorious architecture the city is justly famous for was destroyed by the Waffen SS. The Czech population was, of course mostly liquidated or driven out into the country-side (IOTL Generalplan Ost called for a 50% reduction in the Czech population, although this would have been done using the utterly insane standards of the Reich. "Aryan" looking Czechs i.e. blond/blue would have been largely spared once/if they were judged clear of "Jewish taint". Those that didn't would be handled very differently. Fun folks, the Nazis)
 
The city recovered although it suffered vastly more damage than IOTL thanks to the Reich practice of mass destruction of historically or culturally significant sites during the retreat into inner Germany. It would up better off than Paris ATL, but much of the glorious architecture the city is justly famous for was destroyed by the Waffen SS.
I wonder if that included Josefov, the old Jewish quarter. Hitler intended that to be the "museum of the extinct race," and the fact a lot of Jewish artifacts were brought there OTL is why the museums have such a rich collection of artifact today.

I could see the hit list including Prague Castle, Charles Bridge, Vysehrad, the National Theatre, the National Museum, Municipal House and the Old Town Square to name a few. I can also think of quite a few statues that will be coming down, like that of St. Wenceslas (which we locals call "the horse") and the monuments to Jan Hus and Frantisek Palacky.
 
Did the Nazi's bother to try and hide or obfuscate the PR view of what they did to Jews and other untermenchsen either domestically or internationally (at least within their limited sphere)? Like do they say "Yep we killed the Jews" or more like "What's a Jew? Never heard of that. Moving on...".

Were there large number of "boat people"? Namely refugees who fled via whatever could float to North Africa, Gibraltar, Britain, and the like before the second stage of the war?

How large is the USN/ RN by the time of the St. Patricks Day raid?

What was that heavy tank the US used named?

What happened to the Vichy/ French colonial possesions and military forces that were stranded outside the Metrepole?

What was the small arm/ light arm package like of the Limeys/Americans around the second stage of the war? How about the Nazis? How about their artillery packages? Did either side make large scale usage of cruise missiles and tactical/ battlefield ballistic missiles.

Besides the US/Britain what countries had combat troops/ units involved in the Liberation of Europe?
 
Did the Nazi's bother to try and hide or obfuscate the PR view of what they did to Jews and other untermenchsen either domestically or internationally (at least within their limited sphere)? Like do they say "Yep we killed the Jews" or more like "What's a Jew? Never heard of that. Moving on...".

Were there large number of "boat people"? Namely refugees who fled via whatever could float to North Africa, Gibraltar, Britain, and the like before the second stage of the war?

How large is the USN/ RN by the time of the St. Patricks Day raid?

What was that heavy tank the US used named?

What happened to the Vichy/ French colonial possesions and military forces that were stranded outside the Metrepole?

What was the small arm/ light arm package like of the Limeys/Americans around the second stage of the war? How about the Nazis? How about their artillery packages? Did either side make large scale usage of cruise missiles and tactical/ battlefield ballistic missiles.

Besides the US/Britain what countries had combat troops/ units involved in the Liberation of Europe?
The Nazi's all but admitted it with the truce of '47 when in addition to a prisoner exchange they handed over the last (7000 or so) Jews in Europe, no hiding it then. Refugees certainly but the massive Atlantic defences and the massive Allied attacks on said defences would have rendered getting out that way all but impossible. The RN had the Malta's in service, there are references to far more than Three Midways and the first Supercarriers were being launched so I think we can assume every OTL building plan and then some happened ITTL. Details on weapons and small arms are in the story can't remember off hand all the details. As to French colonies it would have been as OTL at first with Vichy in control but without the massive Northern desert war so they weren't taken over until a bit later IIRC. After that it was "join the Allies or else" and independance by default soon after.

Notably Vietnam was a major player in the Allies by the time the war finally ended in 1961.
 
How large is the USN/ RN by the time of the St. Patricks Day raid?
I know reference was made to all 6 Iowa class and all 5 Montana class battleships being completed along with the 6 Alaska class. The full run of Essex class were built along with at least 6 Midway class. The full run of Des Moines and Worcester class cruisers were built along with a metric shit ton of destroyers and destroyer escorts.
 

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Did the Nazi's bother to try and hide or obfuscate the PR view of what they did to Jews and other untermenchsen either domestically or internationally (at least within their limited sphere)? Like do they say "Yep we killed the Jews" or more like "What's a Jew? Never heard of that. Moving on...".

Were there large number of "boat people"? Namely refugees who fled via whatever could float to North Africa, Gibraltar, Britain, and the like before the second stage of the war?

How large is the USN/ RN by the time of the St. Patricks Day raid?

What was that heavy tank the US used named?

What happened to the Vichy/ French colonial possesions and military forces that were stranded outside the Metrepole?

What was the small arm/ light arm package like of the Limeys/Americans around the second stage of the war? How about the Nazis? How about their artillery packages? Did either side make large scale usage of cruise missiles and tactical/ battlefield ballistic missiles.

Besides the US/Britain what countries had combat troops/ units involved in the Liberation of Europe?
The Reich was anything but ashamed of their great "accomplishment". While there was an effort to hide it IOTL, probably because the chances of defeat were always there, after ATL Stalingrad and the repercussions following it for the Soviets (Stalin killing most of STAVKA which led to the Soviet military collapse and Stalin's "removal") the Reich had little fear of defeat. That gave all the encouragement needed for them to be open about their effort against "Communist elements". The true horrors of what those words meant were hammered home when the last few thousand surviving Jews (most of them WW I Iron Cross winners) were traded for commodities at the start of the Bombing Holidays. These survivors made for some very compelling interviews, Movietone shorts and eventually TV interviews.

As many folks as possible tried to flee, but the Reich was always actively working to interdict this. Fishermen went out knowing, for a fact, that if they didn't come back, their entire family, out to 1st Cousin, would be sent to the Camps or simply killed out of hand (this was eventually relaxed to a degree, too few fishing vessels would even venture out, the risk to family was too great, especially in an occupation where death is always one misstep away). "Stolen" fishing vessels were regularly targeted by KM and Luftwaffe patrols and the land borders were increasingly difficult to cross, especially into Switzerland. There was also a great deal of intimidation out of Berlin toward countries that gave assistance to "Enemies of Europe".

The U.S. heavy tank was the M92 Chamberlain. Read that as similar to OTL M-103, except the M92 was far more robust. If the Reich hadn't already had reinforced European Brides to allow their own super heavy armor to travel by road the Chamberlain would never have been built.

French overseas possessions were brought under WAllied protection. Once it became increasingly clear that the French had chosen to become willing partners to the Reich, the colonies became subject to the "self determination" process (Vietnam had long since been recognized as an independent country by the U.S., with Algeria and Morocco following suit by 1955). This meant that France lost ALL of its possessions and Overseas Departments, and Canada picking up most of the Caribbean islands.

The weapons used are discussed at some length in the T/L. The U.S. primary battle rifle was the Garand M1A1 Select Fire (i.e. the M-14). The British transitioned during the war from the old reliable Enfield No 4 to something similar to the EM-2 in .280 British. There were still plenty of British, Canadian and Indian Army troops using the SMLE in .303 until the end of the war. The Waffen SS used mostly the G/K43, with the StG 44 being the standard weapon of the Luftwaffe Paratroop and Armored divisions. There were huge numbers of the7.92 bolt actions in reserve that were available for the old "Landsers" home guard and captured PPS-43 and PPSh-41 were also very common in local militia armories.

The WAllies eventually expanded to encompass most of the world. The largest non U.S./UK contingent was the Indian Army, which over the course of the war became virtually independent (the British had to agree to the end of colonization of the Raj at the end of the War to get the full buy-in of the Indian independence movement, once they did, the Indians more than held up their end of the deal). Australia and Canada also, unsurprisingly, had serious manpower dedicated, as did South Africa. British "colonial" forces were present in some numbers, as were divisional sized formations from Mexico, Brazil and Argentina, with other Central and South American countries contributing anything from a "token" company or battalion up to Brigade size formations, these Western Hemisphere units were equipped by the U.S., mostly with older equipment (M-1 Garands, M-1917, etc.), but with the larger contingents getting first line U.S. gear (Australian troops were, in general, supplied by and fought alongside American forces, following a pattern set in the Pacific while Canadian forces were largely part of the British supply system). Fighting way above their weight class you had the Vietnamese and the newly independent Philippines and their Scout Division.

As noted above the USN/RN/RCN/RAN were HUGE. The fleets had been the star in the Pacific and the bean counters in the various capitals had rewarded them. The U.S. completed the class orders for all the significant combat ships, given the U.S. 17 fast battleships, 24 Essex and 6 Midway class CV, full runs of the Oregon City and Des Monies class CA, Cleveland, Fargo and Worchester class CL (and no, they never did get the all the gremlins out of the 6"/47 DP). Probably the biggest difference is that the entire Rudderrow class of DDE were completed giving the USN an enormous number of 25 knot light DD to serve as escorts. The British followed much the same course and the Canadians and Australian both had Essex class carriers of their own by the end of the war.
 
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