Here's hoping that with Wacky Redhead soon to end we'll be able to see more of Harry Potter and the Small Screen.
Dave Thomas? The Wendy's guy? If Wendy's doesn't exist ITTL, can Checker's/Rally's take its market share? Please?And speaking of: what's the fate of Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas ITTL?
Thank you, Danderns!Great update.![]()
This is what happens when Fred Silverman doesn't leave ABC for NBC, and doesn't force Snyder out of his timeslot.Danderns said:It seems that with Letterman ITTL, PGTV has avoided the troubles Fox had IOTL with late night talk shows.
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but a friendly word of advice: when someone has just posted an update they have spent several weeks working on, you might want to consider responding to it.Here's hoping that with Wacky Redhead soon to end we'll be able to see more of Harry Potter and the Small Screen.
Thank you, Andrew!Fantastic update (as usual)!
Luckily for PGTV, most of the "beaver hours" will be covered by the local affiliates, outside of primetime. Such is the advantage of having the Canadian government in your pocket!Andrew T said:I wonder if PGTV will have a "Canadian content" rule designed to help the Great White North stick a finger in the dike of the onslaught of U.S. cultural imperialism over the airwaves.
Rick Moranis is a radio DJ, Dave Thomas is an advertising copywriter. They've never met ITTL, alas.Andrew T said:And speaking of: what's the fate of Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas ITTL?
As with the inaugural FOX lineup IOTL, mostly cheaper shows; primarily sitcoms, alongside a handful of existing (if aging) hits; in the US, SCTV moved to PGTV for the 1986-87 season.Very interesting update- given the huge differences in UK and US TV setups, I may of missed some of the finer points, but the new PGTV seems like a huge game changer. Apart from Letterman what are their other shows like? Any sci-Fi?
Thank you!Awesome update as usual Brainbin! I wish this TL didn't have to end here, but I look forward to this mysterious not-really-sequel you teased earlier.
He certainly is a rather convenient character, let me tell you!Roger Redux said:Also, thanks for telling me about John Kluge! He can help me fill in a gap/plot hole in one of my TL ideas!
As a general rule, I don't look too kindly on restaurant chains which show no interest in expanding into the Great White NorthRoger Redux said:If Wendy's doesn't exist ITTL, can Checker's/Rally's take its market share? Please?
My apologies. I like how the newest major television network is Canadian import. I didn't respond to it intitially because it dealt with the nitty-gritty of television station operation, which I am not familiar enough with to comment on. It's still a great update, though at this point saying one of Brainbin's updates is good is like saying that BRIAN BLESSED is hammy. Everyone knows.
And I do love how BRIAN BLESSED's name only looks right in capitals![]()
This is true.>snip< though at this point saying one of Brainbin's updates is good is like saying that BRIAN BLESSED is hammy. Everyone knows.
Indeed.
And I do love how BRIAN BLESSED's name only looks right in capitals![]()
Brian BlessedSame here.![]()
Wait, if Rick Morranis isn't an actor then who plays the lead in Honey I Shrunk the Kids? Peter Scolari?Rick Moranis is a radio DJ, Dave Thomas is an advertising copywriter. They've never met ITTL, alas.
*channels Ozzy Osborne* "I didn't know...."Brainbin said:As a general rule, I don't look too kindly on restaurant chains which show no interest in expanding into the Great White North![]()
This update was co-written with e of pi, who was also wholly responsible for the design of Space Station Olympia. Thanks also to Dan1988 for assisting with the editing, and to nixonshead for the dazzling render of Olympia as it appears at the conclusion of this TL! If only there were some way to see the finished station in all its glory… if only, if only…
Superb update!
I really like your space posts, esp the alt designs and reusing bits of rockets, so this was perfect. The two renders are fantastic.
What are the Soviets/Russians up to in response?
Thank you all very much. It's worth noting that with the completion of this post, I finally wrap up the original agreement Brainbin agreed to back when Workable Goblin and I asked him if he'd be willing to help out on Eyes. Well, that timeline's wrapped up, and now TWR is also drawing to a close, and looking back I think I may have gotten the better out of the deal--I got to design a space program for a fun timeline, and I got a great friendship out of it, too.Oh my god, brainbin, e of pi, nixonshead and Dan1988, what amazing people you are! When I think I've read this timeline's best stuff, along comes this lovely spacey update. And those renders leave me nearly speechless (got me a new wallpaper right away). Nixonshead, I cannot wait for that next timeline you've got coming.
While I appreciate the rest of the metaphor, is Voyage really a swimming pool? There's a Mars landing, sure, but they have to cancel practically the entire unmanned and LEO program to get it...and by the end of the book it's fairly clear it's a one-and-done thing. No mentions are made of preparations for an Ares 2 and in fact just the opposite. Perhaps that's not surprising given the expense, and for just three weeks on the surface! After a couple re-reads, Voyage seems a bit like a book illustrating the consequences of overstepping--like a literary monkey's paw. Anyway, literary criticism aside (see, I can digress too!), back to TWR...So, where do we put TWR in relation to OTL and ATL space history? Well, if our timeline is a slightly dirty glass of water, and Eyes Turned Skywards is that same glass cleaned and purified, then TTL offers us a free refill (Baxters Voyage would be a swimming pool compared to these options, but that's besides the point). It's got Saturn-Shuttle, it's got a space station, the possibilities of a return to the moon or a journey to mars are opened, what more could a reasonable 'moonie loonie' such as myself want?
Olympia looks lovely. Plenty of room in the Skylab-on-steroids core, enough docking nodes for a whole fleet of space shuttles, and international lab modules. And yes I did notice the Canadarm!
I share Ogrebears concern. What's happening on the other side on the Iron Curtain? For as far as I can recall, TTL has been quite silent on Soviet affairs. Seeing as how the American space program would often react to Soviet space developments, even in alternate timelines (Vulkan Panic ftw), it would be nice to know what Mishin, Chelomei, Glushko and those other rascals are up to.
This part I'll leave for the Brainbin, and for an update later this cycle.Speaking of space, and closer to the core of TTL, I'm curious to see what's going on in that galaxy far, far away...
While I appreciate the rest of the metaphor, is Voyage really a swimming pool? There's a Mars landing, sure, but they have to cancel practically the entire unmanned and LEO program to get it...and by the end of the book it's fairly clear it's a one-and-done thing. No mentions are made of preparations for an Ares 2 and in fact just the opposite. Perhaps that's not surprising given the expense, and for just three weeks on the surface! After a couple re-reads, Voyage seems a bit like a book illustrating the consequences of overstepping--like a literary monkey's paw. Anyway, literary criticism aside (see, I can digress too!), back to TWR...
[13] The echo boomers being specifically known for wanting everything yesterday is, of course, a reference to the famous early-1980s pop song, “I Want It Yesterday”, performed by a young starlet who went on to become an icon of 1980s fashion and culture. You can probably imagine her OTL analogue, what she’s like and what kind of girl she is.
Well, I imagine her being either a very 'material' girl, or what some might describe as 'unusual'.[13] The echo boomers being specifically known for wanting everything yesterday is, of course, a reference to the famous early-1980s pop song, “I Want It Yesterday”, performed by a young starlet who went on to become an icon of 1980s fashion and culture. You can probably imagine her OTL analogue, what she’s like and what kind of girl she is.