Scenes from other worlds

[Brita]

I'm curious to know more about Henriette, Queen of France. Is she this Henriette?

 

[isabella]

I'm curious to know more about Henriette, Queen of France. Is she this Henriette?

Yes, her... She will marry Louis XIV instead of Philippe here and will be much happier than OTL as she and Louis had compatible characters. POD is Charles II of England marrying early Anne Marie Louise AND later some of her inheritance was used as dowry for Henrietta. Catherine of Braganza will marry James of York after the Restoration. Fully financial independent Charles and James receiving a very rich dowry (but smaller than her OTL) is a bad news for everyone by the way as they will NOT be easily influenced here (and Stuarts will continue to be very High Church Anglicans and to rule England)...

 

[Brita]

Yes, her... She will marry Louis XIV instead of Philippe here and will be much happier than OTL as she and Louis had compatible characters. POD is Charles II of England marrying early Anne Marie Louise AND later some of her inheritance was used as dowry for Henrietta. Catherine of Braganza will marry James of York after the Restoration. Fully financial independent Charles and James receiving a very rich dowry (but smaller than her OTL) is a bad news for everyone by the way as they will NOT be easily influenced here (and Stuarts will continue to be very High Church Anglicans and to rule England)...

Wow it sounds great! Looking forward to it.

 

[isabella]

Another work-in-progress... usual timeframe, bigger butterflies (I do not know yet where I will go with it) Main thread

Mary of Burgundy (1457-1482) married a) Nicholas of Anjou, Duke of Lorraine (1448-1474) in 1473 b) Maximilian I of Austria, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1459) in 1477

1. a) Charles II, King of Lorraine (b. 1473) married Anne of York (b. 1475)
2. a) Isabelle of Lorraine (b. 1475) married Edward V, King of England (b. 1470)
3. b) Margaret of Austria (b. 1479) married a) Juan, Prince of Asturias and Girona (1480-1498)
4. b) Philip of Austria (1480-1481)
5. b) Francis of Austria (1481)

Edward IV of York, King of England (1442–1485) married Elizabeth Woodville (1440-1492) in 1484

1. Elizabeth of York (1466-1494) married Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1459) in 1483
   1. Eleanor of Austria (b. 1484) married Vladislaus II, King of Bohemia (b. 1456)
   2. Ernst I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1485) married Isabella of Hungary (b. 1494)
   3. Frederick of Austria (1487-1489)
   4. Elizabeth of Austria (b. 1489) married Sigismund I, King of Poland (b. 1467)
   5. Anne of Austria (b. 1491) married Matthias II, King of Hungary (b. 1492)
   6. Katherine of Austria (b. 1493) married Ercole Massimiliano Sforza, Duke of Milan (b. 1493)
   7. Edward of Austria (1494)
2. Mary of York (1467-1482)
3. Cecily of York (1469-1496) married Charles VIII, King of France (1470-1498) in 1484
   1. Anne (b.1486)
   2. stillborn daughter (1488)
   3. Louis XII, King of France (b. 1490) married Germaine of Foix (b. 1488)
   4. miscarriage (1491)
   5. Charlotte (1493-1495)
   6. Charles (1495)
   7. stillborn son (1496)
4. Edward V, King of England (b.1470) married Isabelle of Lorraine (b.1474) in 1490
   1. Edward, Prince of Wales (1490-1496)
   2. Isabelle (b. 1492)
   3. Richard III, King of England (b. 1495)
   4. John, Duke of Bedford (b. 1497)
5. Margaret of York (1472-1472)
6. Richard, Duke of York, Norfolk and Brittany (b.1473) married a) Anne de Mowbray, Countess of Norfolk (1472-1489) in 1478 b) Anne, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1477) in 1490
   1. a) Edward, Duke of York and Norfolk (b. 1489)
   2. b) Francis III, Duke of Brittany (b.1494)
   3. b) Anne (b. 1496)
   4. b) Margaret (1498)
   5. b) Richard (b. 1499)
7. Anne of York (b.1475) married Charles II, King of Lorraine (b.1473) in 1491
   1. Nicholas I, King of Lorraine (b. 1492)
   2. Mary (1494-1497)
   3. Anne (1496)
   4. John (b. 1498)
8. George, Duke of Bedford (1477-1479)
9. Catherine of York (b.1479) married James IV, King of Scotland (b.1473) in 1495
   1. James, Duke of Rothesay (1496-1503)
   2. Alexander IV, King of Scotland (b. 1498)
   3. Robert, Duke of Ross (b. 1500) married Madeleine de la Tour d’Auvergne (b. 1498)
   4. Margaret (1502)
10. Bridget of York (b.1480) nun

Ferdinand II, King of Aragon and Sicily (1452-1516) married Isabella I, Queen of Castile (1451-1506) in 1469

1. Isabella of Castile and Aragon (1470-1498) married a) Alfonso of Portugal (1475-1491) in 1490 and b) Manuel I, King of Portugal(1469-1521) in 1497
   1. b) Miguel da Paz, King of Castile and Aragon, Prince of Portugal (1498-1518) married Madeleine of Navarre (1494-1517)
      1. Stillborn son
2. miscarried son (1472)
3. Juan of Castile and Aragon (1478-1498) married Margaret of Austria(b. 1479) in 1497
   1. stillborn daughter (1498)
4. Juana I, Queen of Castile and Aragon (b. 1479) married Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (1459-1517) in 1497
   1. John III, King of Spain (b. 1498) married Isabella of Portugal
   2. Isabella of Austria-Spain (b. 1500)
   3. Ferdinand (b.1503)
   4. Beatrice of Austria-Spain (b.1505)
   5. Maximilian (1507-1509)
5. Maria of Aragon (1482-1517) married Manuel I, King of Portugal(1469-1521) in 1500
   1. João III, King of Portugal (b. 1502)
   2. Isabella (b. 1503)
   3. Beatrice (b. 1504)
   4. Luis, Duke of Beja (b. 1506)
   5. Fernando, Duke of Guarda (b. 1507) married Guiomar Coutinho (b. 1510)
   6. Alfonso (b. 1509), Cardinal
   7. Enrique (b. 1512), Cardinal
   8. Maria (1513), stillborn
   9. Duarte (b. 1514-1519)
   10. Antonio (1516), stillborn
6. Ana of Aragon (1482) twin of Maria, stillborn
7. Catalina of Aragon (b. 1485) married ??

Ferdinand II, King of Naples (b. 1469) married a) Bianca Maria Sforza (1472-1494) in 1491 b) Joanna of Aragon-Naples (b. 1479) in 1495

1. a) Bianca Maria (b. 1492)
2. a) Ippolita (1493-1496)
3. a) Isabella (1495-1496)
4. a) Beatrice (b. 1496)
5. b) Alfonso, Duke of Calabria (1498-1500)
6. b) Ferdinand III, King of Naples (b. 1500)
7. b) Joanna (b. 1502)

 

[isabella]

Life was never easy for the young Elizabeth and her often repeated moniker of “Lancastrian princess, Yorkist queen“ explain only a part of her sufferances: her father died four days after her birth, leaving her great estates and the rank of heiress presumptive to her still childless cousin Henry VI of England. If she had been allowed to live longer with her mother and stepfather (as Jacquetta, once widowed, followed quick her sister-in-law Catherine of France’s example, remarrying quite scandalously to a man of much lower birth) she would have surely be happier (still she was close to her mother, stepfather and half-siblings for all her life). When Richard, Duke of York and Lord Protector of the Realm was able to get custody of her (and then more-or-less forced the almost thirteen Elizabeth to marry his own eldest son, Edward, who was only seven) her life changed a lot and she resented a lot for that: oh, well her relationship with Edward would be best classified as complicated (at least for many years) for now, with Anne, already Duchess of Exeter and her main companion in the first years of her marriage (as Anne’s underage husband was under her father’s guardianship after the death of his own father in 1447), whose life mirrored so closely her own, she would always felt a strong kinship and solidarity, other than the friendship she has with both her and Elizabeth (Edward’s next sister and her namesake, who, while much younger, was still a companion of them). With her parents-in-law relationship were much more tense and with Cecily would never be warm (but Elizabeth would reach an understanding with her father-in-law in the last months of his life)...

 

[isabella]

“Jasper, I do not owe any loyalty to your half-brother or his son as, whatever blood we share, I married Edward and my loyalty MUST BE reserves to my husband and my sons. Still, I am my father’s daughter and will not let Edward destroys the supporters of the Lancasters. Now who his son is dead Henry is beyond any help and Marguerite’s fate will depend from her French relatives but that do not mean who the Lancastrians are outlaws, I will NEVER consent to that and Edward know it well. What I want NOW is peace for England, now who we can not have any doubt about who is the rightful ruler as my son, the Prince of Wales is the indisputable heir of both the Lancastrian and Yorkist branches of the Plantagenets. What you, and your nephew Henry can do NOW is accepting that, swearing loyalty to my husband and son and leave Henry to his fate. Edward will restore your Earldom of Pembroke and your nephew’s Richmond. I will find a suitable bride to your nephew and he will be included among my Edward’s companions. Do not worry, you will not need to explain to Margaret for what reason her son must marry a Yorkist. I am thinking to another bride for for him... My youngest sister Katherine need an husband and I think Margaret will not have anything against such match”

Elizabeth of Lancaster, Queen of England to Jasper Tudor, Earl of Pembroke from “The Rose of England“ a play on Elizabeth’s life

 

[isabella]

Marie, Queen of Spain and Isabel, Princess of Asturias (still work-in-progress as always)

POD is Mary I of England dying months later than OTL so Elisabeth of Valois married don Carlos as originally planned, instead of his father

Felipe II, King of Spain (b. 1527) married a) Maria Manuela of Portugal (1527-1545) in 1543, b) Mary Tudor, Queen of England (1516-1559) in 1554 c) Mary Stewart, Queen of Scotland and England (b. 1542) in 1560

1. a) Carlos, Prince of Asturias (1545-1572) married Elisabeth of Valois(b. 1545) in 1559
   1. Felipe III, King of Spain (b. 1465)
   2. Isabella Clara Eugenia (b. 1467)
   3. miscarried son (1468)
   4. Catherine Michelle (b. 1470)
   5. stillborn daughter (1472)
2. c) Isabella (b. 1462) married Ernest, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1453)
3. c) James I, King of Albion (b. 1463) married Christine, Duchess of Lorraine** (b. 1465) in 1482
   1. Philip II, King of Albion (b. 1484)
   2. Mary (b. 1486)
   3. Charles I, King of Lotharingia (b. 1488)
   4. Christine (b. 1490)
   5. Catherine (b. 1492)
   6. Henry (1493-1495)
   7. Eleanor (b. 1495)
   8. Robert, Duke of Gloucester and Ross (b. 1497)
4. c) Philip, Duke of York and Albany (1464-1465)
5. c) Eleanor (b. 1468)
6. c) Alexander, Duke of York and Albany (b. 1470)
7. c) John (1475)

without
NOTES:
*ATL Spain include Castile, Aragon and Portugal
**ATL Francis of Lorraine died before marrying, Catherine of Bourbon lived longer and so also Henry II died childless, leaving the Duchy to the eldest of their sisters, wife of the King of England

Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor (1503-1564), King of Hungary and Bohemia married Anna of Bohemia and Hungary (1503–1547) in 1521
1) Elisabeth (1526-1545) married Sigismund II Augustus, King of Poland (1520-1572) in 1543 without issues
2) Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1527) married Maria of Spain (b. 1528) in 1548

1) Anne of Austria (b. 1549) married John Sigismund, King of Poland (b. 1540) in 1568 with issues​

2) Ferdinand of Austria (1551-1552)​

3) Rudolf of Austria (1552-1558)​

4) Ernest of Austria (b. 1553) married Isabella of Spain (b. 1562) in 1578 with issues​

5) Elisabeth of Austria (b. 1554) married Sebastian, King of Portugal (1554-1578) in 1570 without issues​

6) Maria of Austria (1555-1556)​

7) Matthias of Austria (b. 1557) married Maria Anna of Bavaria (b. 1551) in 1572 with issues​

8) stillborn son (1557)​

9) Maximilian of Austria (b. 1558), grandmaster of the Teutonic Order​

10) Albert of Austria (b. 1559), cardinal​

11) Wenceslaus of Austria (1561-1578)​

12) Frederick of Austria (1562-1563)​

13) Maria of Austria (1564-1564)​

14) Charles of Austria (1565-1566)​

15) Margaret of Austria (b. 1567), nun​

16) Eleonore of Austria (1568-1580)​

3) Anna (b.1528) married Albert V, Duke of Bavaria (b. 1528) in 1546 with issues
4) Ferdinand II, Archduke of Austria (b. 1529) married a) Philippine Welser (1527-1580) in 1557 (b) Anna Caterina Gonzaga (b. 1566) in 1582 with issues by both
5) Maria (b. 1531) married Wilhelm, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1516) in 1546 with issues
6) Magdalena (b. 1532), nun
7) Catherine (b. 1533) married a) Francis III, Duke of Mantua (1533-1550) in 1549, b) Sigismund II Augustus, King of Poland (1520-1572) in 1553 without issues by either
8) Eleanor (b. 1534) married William I, Duke of Mantua (b. 1538) in 1561 with issues
9) Margaret (b. 1536), nun
10) John (1538-1539)
11) Barbara (1539-1572) married Alfonso II, Duke of Ferrara and Modena (b. 1533) in 1565 without issues
12) Charles II, Archduke of Austria (b. 1540) married Dorothea of Lorraine (b. 1545) in 1565 without issues
13) Ursula (1541-1543)
14) Helena (b. 1543), nun
15) Joanna (1547-1578) married Francis I, Grand Duke of Tuscany (b. 1541) with issues

 

[isabella]

A Burgundian Queen for France (work in progress as always)
French wank (likely to be my only one ever)

Louis XI, King of France (1423-1483) married a) Margaret of Scotland (1424-1445) in 1436, b) Charlotte of Savoy (1441-1472) in 1451 c) Mary, Duchess of Burgundy (1457-1482) in 1473

1. b) Louis (1458 – 1460)
2. b) Joachim (1459)
3. b) Louise (1460)
4. b) Anne (b. 1461) married a) Nicholas of Anjou, Duke of Lorraine (1448-1476) in 1472 b) Pierre II, Duke of Bourbon (1438-1503) in 1477
   1. a) Isabelle II, Duchess of Lorraine (b. 1476) married Philip III, Duke of Burgundy (b. 1475)
   2. b) Charles III, Duke of Bourbon (b. 1488) married ?
   3. c) Suzanne of Bourbon (b. 1491) married ?
5. b) Joan (b. 1464) married Louis II, Duke d’Orleans (b. 1462) in 1476 annulled in 1487 without issues
6. b) Louis (1466)
7. b) Charles VIII, King of France (1470-1498) married ?
8. b) Francis, Duke of Berry (1472-1473)
9. c) Philip II, Duke of Burgundy (b. 1475) married Isabelle II, Duchess of Lorraine (b. 1476)
   1. Louis XII, King of France (b. 1492) married Anne Marie d’Orleans, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1498)
   2. other issues
10. c) John, Duke of Berry (b. 1478) married ?
11. c) Madeleine (b. 1480) married?
12. c) Eleanor (b. 1482) married?

 

[isabella]

Another WIP in a different period from my usual (but playing with either branch of the Anjous is something I had long planned so...)
Richard I*, Duke of Aquitaine and King of Jerusalem (b. 1157) married a) Alys of France, Countess of Vexin (1161-1179) b) Sibylla, Queen of Jerusalem (b. 1160)

1. a) Henry III, King of England (1177-1190)
2. a) Eleanor of England (b. 1178)
3. a) William III, King of England (b. 1179) married Eleanor, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1184)
4. b) Almaric of Jerusalem (1182-1186)
5. b) Sibylla of Jerusalem (b. 1183)
6. b) Alice of Jerusalem (b. 1185)
7. b) Baldwin V of Jerusalem (b. 1187)
8. b) Fulk of Jerusalem (b. 1189)
9. b) Matilda of Jerusalem (b. 1190)

* also know with this names: “the Great” “Lionheart” “Defender of the Christianity”

NOTES: ATL Costance of Castile died in childbirth with a stillborn daughter and Alys (called after her mother) is the eldest child of Louis VI by Adela of Champagne. She was sent under Eleanor’s custody and married Richard at 12 years old as planned. Her early death and Richard’s tense relationship with his father pushed her widower to leave his children and Aquitaine to his beloved mother and go to Jerusalem. Once arrived there he was pushed by the young King Baldwin to marry his widowed sister and heiress Sibylla “as Jerusalem need a strong ruler and my health made me unable to be that”. Richard, whose desire to fight for the cross and the Holy Land was strong and sincere (and in truth was also unwilling to return in Europe and to the conflicts with his father) accepted, married princess Sibylla and become first Regent and later King of Jerusalem, fighting with courage for securing Jerusalem and defeating his great rival, the Muslim leader Salah ad-Din, who was one of the greatest foes Jerusalem ever had, but was never able to seriously menacing Jerusalem.
ATL the relationship of Henry II with Eleanor and his sons is a little better than the OTL one and a full conflict will explode later than OTL. As Richard’s bride to-be was kept by Eleanor and they were married as soon was possible (unlike OTL) and Richard had a little more power in Aquitaine, Richard had less reasons for hating his father and he, Eleanor and Geoffrey will stay out of the first conflict between the two Henry’s so Eleanor will not be imprisoned at the OTL time and later Henry will left her in Aquitaine fearing who Alys’ uncles (Henry of Champagne and Theobald of Blois, who are married to Eleanor’s french daughters), will try to take control of Aquitaine in name of her sons. Things between Henry II and Henry the Young King will go at hell in the same period in which Alys died and that was one of the reason who pushed Richard to accept Sibylla’s hand (“fighting infidels for the glory of God is much better than fighting your own family and relatives and that is what is waiting for me at home” was the alleged comment of Richard about the offer).

 

[isabella]

Another work in progress as usual...
this time Yorkist defeat with Edward IV and Gloucester dying in battle and OTL Edward V born as short lived girl. After Anne Neville died in childbirth (after a disastrous series of pregnancies) Edward of Westminster remarried to Elizabeth of York (and married het sister Cecily to James IV of Scotland)

Edward IV (of York), King of England (1440-1470) married Elizabeth Woodville (b. 1440) in 1464

1. Elizabeth of York (b.1466) married Edward V, King of England (b. 1453)
2. Mary of York (1467-1480)
3. Cecily of York (b.1469) married James IV, King of Scotland (b.1473)
4. Margaret of York (1470-1472)

Edward V (of Lancaster), King of England (b. 1453) married a) Anne Neville (1456-1476) in 1470 b) Elizabeth of York (b. 1466) in 1478

1. a) miscarriage (1471)
2. a) stillborn daughter (1473)
3. a) stillborn son (1474)
4. a) miscarriage (1475)
5. a) stillborn daughter (1476)
6. b) Henry VII, King of England (b. 1482) married Maria of Spain (b. 1482)
7. b) Edward, Duke of York (b. 1483) married Isabelle of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy and Lorraine (b. 1482)*
8. b) Elizabeth of England (b. 1485) married Richard I, Duke of Brittany (b. 1479)**
9. b) Thomas, Duke of Bedford (1486)
10. b) Edmund, Duke of Clarence (b. 1487) married Anne of Clarence, Countess of Warwick and Salisbury (b. 1481)***
11. b) Margaret of England (1488-1492) married Christian II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b. 1481)
12. b) Catherine of England (b. 1490) married John II, King of Scotland (b. 1484)****
13. b) John, Duke of Bedford (b. 1492) married Madeleine de la Tour d’Auvergne (b. 1498)*****
14. b) Richard, Duke of Gloucester (1495-1500)
15. b) Eleanor of England (b. 1498) married Miguel I, King of Spain (b. 1498)

*ATL daughter and only surviving children of Nicholas of Anjou (1448-1485) and Mary of Burgundy (1457-1483). Charles the Bold ATL lived until late 60’s and arranged his granddaughter’s wedding in England.
**ATL Isabeau of Brittany, born male and called after Francis II’s father
***ATL youngest and only surviving child of George of Clarence and Isabel Neville (her mother died in childbirth and her siblings were killed by a fever)
**** all the children of James and Cecily died young and Albany followed James on the throne marrying the English princess Catherine, while his former betrothed married John of Bedford
***** Madeleine, only surviving children of her parents was engaged to her cousin John of Albany before James IV’s childless death forced a change of plans so she married Bedford

 

[isabella]

A Spanish Empire WIP again (with some kids and matches still missing because I have no idea for it at the moment)
POD is Miguel da Paz surviving to inherit Spain

Ferdinand II, King of Aragon and Sicily (1452-1516) married Isabella I, Queen of Castile (1451-1510) in 1469

1. Isabella, Princess of Asturias and Girona (1470-1498), married a) Alfonso, Prince of Portugal (1475-1491) in 1490 and b) Manuel I, King of Portugal (1469-1519) in 1497
   1. b) Miguel da Paz, King of Spain (1498-1520) married Madeleine, Queen of Navarre (1494-1519) in 1512
      1. John III, King of Spain (b.1514) married Beatrice of Austria (b.1512) with issues
      2. Isabella of Spain (1516-1540) married James V, King of Scotland (b.1512) in 1532 with issues
      3. Catherine of Spain (b.1518) married John II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b.1518) with issues
      4. stillborn son (1519)
2. miscarried son (1472)
3. Juan, Prince of Asturias and Girona (1478-1497) married Margaret of Austria-Burgundy (b.1480) in 1497
   
   stillborn daughter (1497)​
4. Juana of Aragon (b.1479) married Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (1478-1511) in 1496
   1. Eleanor of Austria (b.1498) married Antoine, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1489) in 1512
      1. Nicholas (1514-1520)
      2. miscarriage (1515)
      3. Charles (1516-1520)
      4. Eleanor, Duchess of Lorraine (b.1518) married Ernest I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1520) with issues
      5. Francis (1520)
      6. Mary (1522-1535)
   2. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (1500-1531) married a) Mary Tudor (1496-1523) in 1515 b) Isabella of Portugal (1503-1530) in 1524
      1. a) Philip, Count of Charolais (1518-1520)
      2. a) John of Austria (1520)
      3. a) stillborn daughter (1521)
      4. a) Joanna (1523-1528)
      5. b) Mary (1526)
      6. b) Isabella (1528-1530)
      7. b) Maximilian (1530)
   3. Isabella of Austria (b.1501) married Christian II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b.1481-1521) in 1514
      1. John II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b.1518) married Catherine of Spain (b.1518) with issues
      2. Philip Ferdinand (1419)
      3. Maximilian (1419)
      4. Dorothea (b.1520)
      5. Christina (b.1521) married Francis II, Duke of Milan (b.1518) with issues
   4. Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1503) married Anna of Bohemia and Hungary (b.1503) in 1515
      1. Ernest I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1520) married Eleanor, Duchess of Lorraine (b.1518) with issues
      2. Maximilian I, King of Hungary and Poland (b.1521) married Elizabeth of Poland (b. 1520) with issues
      3. Anna (b.1524)
      4. Joanna (1525-1532)
      5. John (b.1527), Grandmaster of Teutonic Order
      6. Eleanor (b.1530) married Henry IX, King of England (b.1521) in 1545 with issues
      7. Charles (1530-1539)
      8. Philip (1535)
      9. Elizabeth (b.1538-1546)
      10. Margaret (1540)
      11. Helena (b.1542)
      12. Rudolf (1545-1554)
      13. Magdalena (b.1547)
   5. Margaret of Austria (b. 1504) married Sigismund I, King of Poland (b.1467) in 1518
      1. Elizabeth of Poland (b. 1520) married Maximilian I, King of Poland and Hungary (b. 1521) with issue
      2. stillborn son (1521)
      3. Sigismund of Poland (1523-1538) died unmarried
      4. Anna of Poland (1525-1526)
      5. Sofia of Poland (b. 1528)
      6. miscarriage (1530)
   6. Mary of Austria (b.1505) married Louis II, King of Bohemia and Hungary (1506-1526) in 1515 (consummated 1522) without issues
   7. Catherine of Austria (b.1507) married Charles III, Duke of Savoy (b.1486) in 1522 with issues
   8. Ernest of Austria (1509-1513)
   9. Anna of Austria (b.1510) married Francis I, King of France (b. 1494) in 1527 with issues
   10. Beatrice of Austria (b.1512) married John III, King of Spain (b.1514) with issues
5. Beatriz of Aragon (1482) twin of Maria, stillborn
6. Maria of Aragon (1482-1920) married Manuel I, King of Portugal (1469-1519) in 1499
   1. João, Duke of Viseu (b. 1502) married Isabella of Braganza, Duchess of Guimarães (b. 1514) in 1537 with issues
   2. Isabella (1503-1530) married Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (1500-1531) in 1524 with issues
   3. Beatrice (b.1504) married Henry VIII, King of England (b.1491) in 1519
      1. Henry IX, King of England (b.1521) married a) Madeleine of France (1520-1542) in 1538 with issues b) Eleanor of Austria (b.1530) in 1542 with issues
      2. Elizabeth of England (b.1523) married Francis III, Duke of Brittany (1518-1550) in 1539 with issues
      3. Beatrice of England (b.1526) married James V, King of Scotland (b. 1512) in 1542 with issues
      4. Mary of England (1528-1536)
      5. Edward, Duke of York (b.1531) married Elizabeth Percy (b. 1533)
   4. Luis, Duke of Beja (1506-1520)
   5. Fernando, Duke of Guarda (b. 1507) married Guiomar Coutinho (b. 1510) in 1530 with issues
   6. Alfonso (b. 1509), Cardinal
   7. Enrique (b. 1512), Cardinal
   8. Maria (1513), stillborn
   9. Duarte (1515-1533)
   10. Antonio (1516), stillborn
7. Catalina of Aragon (1485-1518) married a) Arthur Tudor, Prince of Wales (1486-1502) in 1501 and b) Henry VIII, King of England (b.1491) in 1505
   1. b) miscarriage (1508)
   2. b) stillborn son (1509)
   3. b) Henry, Prince of Wales (1511)
   4. b) Isabella (1512)
   5. b) stillborn daughter (1514)
   6. b) Mary (1516-1520)
   7. b) miscarried son (1518)

NOTES:
Miguel and Madeleine match would be surely in Ferdinand’s plans if both had survived. ATL Madeleine d’Albret and her youngest sister Isabella (who married her OTL husband) were the only child of Catherine of Foix still alive at her death (and Madeleine also was destined to an early grave) so the ATL Spain on which John III ruled included the whole Iberian peninsula plus Naples, Sicily and Sardinia and had all the colonies of both Spain and Portugal.
OTL John III of Portugal (who ATL is Duke of Viseu and Guimaraes by marriage to Isabella of Braganza) was his nephew’s regent and had a lot of fight to do with four different Cortes...
Philip of Burgundy choose the weddings for Eleanor of Austria who, without future Henry VIII available, was engaged to the heir of Lorraine and Charles, who was engaged to Mary Tudor (the elder) as OTL, while all the younger kids matches were arranged by Maximilian.
Charles later remarried to his cousin Isabella of Spain (his OTL wife) and was pretty unlucky with both as he had no surviving kids and died months after his second wife, likely consumed more by the guilt (as both Mary and Isabella died in childbirth and he had loved both of them) than the illness.
While his wedding to Catherine was more frustrating than his OTL one, the fact who Austria/Burgundy and Spain were NOT destined to be unite prevented Henry VIII to broke his sister‘s engagement to Charles II of Burgundy after his father-in-law’s betrayal (as he had no direct tie to the Habsburgs). Catherine’s death after a miscarriage was a blessing for Henry, whose successive wedding to another Spanish princess (Beatrice of Portugal) was much happier with four of their five kids surviving (and among them an heir and a spare with good health).
Henry VIII’s heir married first a French princess (in a double match with his sister and Francis I’s heir) then an Austrian Archduchess, while his younger brother, well, scandalised court eloping with the eldest daughter of the Earl of Northumberland (by his second wife) in a wedding much more scandalous than the contrasted one of their parents (and both are remembered among the great love stories of that age). The fact who lady Elizabeth was niece of one of the tree long time mistresses of King Henry VIII (who were all blondes) only added to the scandal but was the reason for which they were pardoned rather quickly (like the King’s great friend Charles Brandon had been pardoned by the King after seducing secretly marring his widowed sister once sent in Scotland as ambassador). James V of Scotland married first a Spanish princess, then Henry VII’s younger daughter while his full brother Alexander married their relative Madeleine of Albany (they had an half-brother and three half-sisters by Margaret’s second wedding).
Eleanor of Austria had an horrible 1520 as all her kids caught an illness who killed the three boys (the youngest only few months old) and to which only her daughter survived. She became deeply attacked to her daughter after this, specially after another illness killed her only other child years later.
The Francis II of Milan who married Christina of Denmark (who ATL was born 7 months after her father’s death) is NOT her OTL husband, but his nephew (Maximilian I of Milan married his cousin Bona and they had four children: Francesco, Isabella, Beatrice and Ludovico (who inherited his mother’s Duchy of Bari) while his brother died unmarried and childless).
Maximilian and his sons Ernest and Maximilian were able (and lucky as all three in the end married heiresses) rulers who were able to create and consolidate their Kingdoms, reducing a lot the power of the nobility in all their lands
France well was pretty screwed as Francis I’s eldest son died leaving only a daughter as heiress of Brittany and his younger sons by Claude died childless, so the French crown was inherited by his eldest son by Anna of Austria (who was unable to marry his half-niece for keeping Brittany in the family)

 

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Updated the tree for “the many daughters of Maximilian“ with English, Spanish and French trees and a lot of world building in the notes (and that after losing an almost finished draft earlier this morning but luckily I remembered all the matches I had planned) @Kellan Sullivan @DJB001

 

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Updated the future projects in the second post and added the thread for reborn Lotharingia (both in the masterlist and in the post with the trees)

 

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Reborn Lotharingia had a lot of updates and I have also new material for King Edward’s great matter (the bio of ATL Lucrezia Borgia and the tree for Spain and Portugal)

 

[xsampa]

King of Peru and Quito when?

 

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Richard II, King of England (1367-1410) married a) Anne of Bohemia (1366-1394) b) Isabelle of France (1389-1408)

1. a) miscarriage (1383)
2. a) miscarriage (1385)
3. a) Joan (1388)
4. a) Anne, Queen of England (b. 1390) married Edward IV, King of England (b.1373)
   1. Richard III, King of England (b. 1406)
   2. Joan of England (b. 1408)
   3. Edmund, Duke of York (b. 1410)
   4. Anne of England (b. 1413)
   5. Isabella (1415-1417)
   6. Eleanor of England (b. 1516)
   7. Edward, Duke of Clarence (b. 1418)
5. a) stillborn son (1393)
6. b) Isabella of England (b. 1406)
7. b) Edward, Prince of Wales (1408)

 

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a repost of one of my earliest tree, I was trying to get Richard III as legitimate heir of Edward IV
Edward IV, King of England (1442–1485) married Elizabeth Woodville (1437-1492) in 1464

1. Elizabeth of York (b.1466) married Richard of York, Duke of Gloucester (b.1452) in 1484
2. Mary of York (1467-1482)
3. Cecily of York (b.1469) married James IV of Scotland (b.1473)
4. Edward, Prince of Wales (1470-1484) eng. Anne, Duchess of Brittany (b.1477)
5. Margaret of York (1472-1472)
6. Richard, Duke of York and Norfolk (1473-1483) married Anne Mowbray, Countess of Norfolk (1472-1481)
7. Anne of York (1475-1499) married Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (b.1478-1810)
8. George, Duke of Bedford (1477-1479)
9. Catherine of York (b.1479) married Juan, Prince of Asturias (1478-1497)
10. Bridget of York (b.1480) nun

Richard III, King of England married a) Anne Neville (1456-1483) in 1472 b) Elizabeth of York (b.1466) in 1484

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1a) Edward of Middleham (1473-1483)​

2b) Elizabeth of Gloucester (b.1484) married Christian II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b.1481)​

3b) Cecily of England (1486-1490)​

4b) Edward V of England (b.1488) married Catherine of Aragon (b.1485)​

5b) Richard, Duke of York (b.1490)​

6b) Margaret of England (1493-1500)​

7b) Anne of England (b. 1496) married John III of Spain (b.1497)​

8b) Katherine of England (1499) married Karl V, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1501)​

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Notes: After a series of illnesses put in danger the succession (killing Richard of Shrewsbury, Edward of Middleham an Anne Neville and leaving the Prince of Wales on the brink of death) Edward IV decided to marry his eldest daughter to his newly widowed brother Richard, Duke of Gloucester for keeping united the general and the male line claims on throne in the very likely case of death of the Prince of Wales. Edward IV died after the death of his sons and the birth of Richard and Elizabeth's eldest daughter. John III of Spain is the ATL eldest son of Manuel I of Portugal and Juana I of Castile and Aragon (Isabella had taken the vows after the death of Alfonso so Ferdinand and Isabella offered to Manuel directly Juana). Karl V is the eldest son of Philip by his second wife Maria of Aragon (Anne of York died in childbirth with her daughter Eleanor, future Queen of Poland). Richard III's eldest daughter married Christian of Denmark as the alliance would be very useful for both Kings (Richard wanted a crown for his eldest daughter and Elizabeth was niece of the Queen of Scotland and sister of the future Duchess of Burgundy and Queen of Spain as Anne and Katherine's betrothals were arranged very early as replacement for the failed weddings of their aunts)

 

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Another WIP (I guess you already suspected that)
POD: The future Edward IV married before becoming King

Reworked tree for Another Anjou Queen of England (Still WIP)
POD: The future Edward IV married before becoming King

Richard, Duke of York (1411-1460) married Cecily Neville (b. 1415)

1. Anne of York (b. 1439) married Henry Holland, Duke of Exeter (b. 1430) with issues
2. Henry of York (1441)
3. Edward IV, King of England (b. 1442) married a) Isabella of Lorraine (1445-1465)* in 1452 b) Eleanor Talbot (1436-1469) in 1465 c) Anne of Savoy (b. 1455) in 1470
   1. a) Edward V, King of England (b. 1461) married Mary, Duchess of Burgundy (b. 1457)**
   2. a) Elizabeth (b. 1463) married Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1459)
   3. a) Cecily (1465-1473)
   4. b) Eleanor (b. 1466) married Francis I, King of Navarre (b. 1467)
   5. b) Richard, Duke of York and Norfolk (b. 1468) married Anne Mowbray, Countess of Norfolk (b. 1472)
   6. b) John, Duke of Bedford (1469-1470)
   7. c) George, Duke of Cambridge (1471)
   8. c) Anne (b. 1472) married Charles VIII, King of France (b. 1470)
   9. c) Edmund, Duke of Rutland (1473-1475)
   10. c) Yolanda (1475-1478)
   11. c) Madeleine (b. 1476) married James IV, King of Scotland (b. 1473)
   12. c) Catherine (b. 1478) married John VI, Duke of Brittany (b. 1463)***
4. Edmund, Earl of Rutland (1443-1460)
5. Elizabeth of York (b. 1444) married John de la Pole, Duke of Suffolk (b. 1442) with issues
6. Margaret of York (b.1446) married Charles I, Duke of Burgundy (b. 1433) without issues
7. William of York (1447-1452)
8. John of York (1448-1449)
9. George, Duke of Clarence (b. 1449) married Margaret Tudor (b. 1457)**** with issues
10. Thomas of York (1450-1451)
11. Richard, Duke of Gloucester (b. 1452) married Anne Neville (b. 1456) with issues
12. Ursula of York (1455-1456)

NOTES:
* Isabelle of Lorraine is niece of Queen Marguerite (and also niece by marriage of Charles the Bold) and the elder sister of Nicholas of Lorraine
** Edward married Mary after inheriting Lorraine from his childless uncle
*** John is the son of Francis II of Brittany and his first wife Margaret of Brittany. Catherine is his second wife (he had only two surviving daughters by his first wedding to Catherine of Navarre (1468-1490), niece of his stepmother). John’s half-sister Anne (b. 1477) was married to John d’Albret (b.1469)
**** Margaret Tudor would be OTL Henry VII born as girl. She is a very rich heiress so George married her leaving Warwick’s eldest daughter to someone else

The House of Tudors

Sir Owen Tudor (1400 c. - 1461) married Catherine of Valois (1401 - 1437)

1. Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond (1430 - 1456) married Margaret Beaufort(b. 1433) in 1455
   1. Margaret Tudor (b. 1457) married George of York, Duke of Clarence (b. 1449) with issues
2. Jasper, Earl of Pembroke and Richmond (b. 1431) married Elizabeth Woodville(b. 1439) in 1454
   1. Elizabeth (b. 1456)
   2. Catherine (b. 1457)
   3. Henry, Earl of Pembroke (b. 1458)
   4. Margaret (1460 - 1463)
   5. Edmund (1461)
   6. Jacquetta (1462 - 1463)
   7. Owen (1463 - 1468)
   8. Anne (b. 1464)
   9. Eleanor (b. 1466)
   10. Jasper (1467 - 1470)
   11. Richard, Earl of Richmond (b. 1469) married Margaret of Clarence (b. 1474)
   12. Anthony (b. 1471)
3. Owen Tudor (b. 1433), monk
4. Catherine Tudor (b. 1435), nun
5. Margaret Tudor (1437)

 

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Another work-in-progress who is a sort of alternative version of Juana, the heretic Queen (as the two shared the same starting PODs of Catherine dying in place of Arthur and Isabella dying shortly after that)

Ferdinand II, King of Aragon and Sicily (1452-1516) married a) Isabella I, Queen of Castile (1451-1502) in 1469

1. Isabella of Castile and Aragon (1470-1498) married a) Alfonso of Portugal (1475-1491) in 1490 and b) Manuel I, King of Portugal (b. 1469) in 1497
   1. b) Miguel da Paz, Prince of Portugal, Asturias and Girona (1498-1500)​
2. miscarried son (1472)
3. Juan of Castile and Aragon (1478-1497) married Margaret of Austria-Burgundy (b.1480) in 1497
   1. stillborn daughter (1498)​
4. Juana I, Queen of Castile and Aragon (b. 1479) married a) Philip I of Burgundy, King of Castile (1478-1503) in 1496 b) Ferdinand of Naples (b. 1488) in 1504
   1. a) Eleanor (b. 1498) married Antoine, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1489) in 1513​
   2. a) Karl V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500) married Anna of Bohemia and Hungary (b. 1503) in 1515​
   3. a) Elizabeth (b. 1501) married Sigismund I, King of Poland (b. 1467) in 1516​
   4. a) Mary (1502-1518) engaged to Louis II of Hungary (1506-1514)​
   5. b) Juan III, King of Spain (b. 1505) married Isabella of Portugal (b. 1503) in 1520​
   6. b) Leonora (b. 1507) married João III, King of Portugal (b. 1502)​
   7. b) Isabella (b. 1508) married Henry II, King of Navarre (b. 1503) in 1523​
   8. b) Ferdinand V, King of Naples and Sicily (b. 1510) married Eleonora d’Este (b. 1515)​
   9. b) Catherine (b. 1512) married Arthur II, King of England (b. 1510)​
   10. b) Frederick (b. 1514)​
   11. b) Beatrice (b. 1516) married Francis II, Duke of Milan (b. 1514)​
5. Maria of Aragon (b. 1482) married Manuel I, King of Portugal (b. 1469) in 1500
   1. João III, King of Portugal (b. 1502) married Leonora of Spain (b. 1507) in 1521​
   2. Isabella (b. 1503) married Ferdinand VI, King of Spain (b. 1505) in 1520​
   3. Beatrice (b. 1504) married Charles III, Duke of Savoy (b. 1486)​
   4. Luis, Duke of Beja (b. 1506)​
   5. Fernando, Duke of Guarda (1507-1534) married Guiomar Coutinho (b. 1510) in 1530​
   6. Alfonso (b. 1509), Cardinal​
   7. Enrique (b. 1512), Cardinal​
   8. Maria (1513), stillborn​
   9. Duarte (1515-1525)​
   10. Antonio (1516), stillborn​
6. Ana of Aragon (1482) twin of Maria, stillborn
7. Catalina of Aragon (1485-1502) married Arthur I, King of England (b. 1486) in 1501

Henry VII Tudor, King of England (1457-1511) married Elizabeth of York (1466-1515) in 1486

1. Arthur I, King of England (b. 1486) married a) Catalina of Aragon (1485-1502) in 1501 b) Germaine of Foix (b. 1488) in 1503
   1. Henry, Prince of Wales (1504-1515) engaged to Elizabeth of Austria (b. 1501)
   2. miscarriage (1506)
   3. Elizabeth (1508-1524)
   4. Arthur II, King of England (b. 1510) married Catherine of Spain (b. 1512)
   5. Margaret (1512-1514)
   6. Mary (1514)
2. Margaret (b. 1489) married James IV, King of Scotland (b. 1473) in 1503
   1. James, Duke of Rothesay (1507-1508)
   2. stillborn daughter (1508)
   3. Arthur, Duke of Rothesay (1509)
   4. James V, King of Scotland (b. 1512) married a) Charlotte of France (1516-1537) in 1531 b) Margaret of York (b. 1522) in 1538
   5. stillborn daughter (1512)
   6. Alexander, Duke of Ross and Albany (b. 1514) married Madeleine Anne of Albany, Countess of Boulogne and Auvergne (b. 1518)*
   7. Margaret (1516-1521)
   8. Arthur, Earl of Mar (1518)
   9. stillborn son (1520)
   10. stillborn daughter (b. 1521)
3. Henry, Duke of York (1491-1530) married Sabina of Bavaria (b. 1492) in 1507
   1. Henry (1508-1530) married Marguerite of Foix (b. 1510)
   2. Margaret (1509)
   3. Edward (1511-1519)
   4. stillborn daughter (1513)
   5. Edmund (1515-1519)
   6. stillborn son (1517)
   7. Elizabeth (1520)
   8. Margaret (b. 1522) married James V, King of Scotland (b. 1512) in 1538
4. Elizabeth (1492-1495)
5. Mary (b. 1496) married Christian II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (1481-1522) in 1514
   1. John II, King of Denmark, Sweden and Norway (b. 1515)
   2. Arthur (1517)
   3. Henry (1519)
   4. Elizabeth (b. 1520)
   5. Christina (b. 1522)
6. Edward (1498-1499)
7. Edmund (1499-1500)

Francis I, King of France (b. 1494) married a) Claude of France, Duchess of Brittany (1499-1524) in 1514 b) ?

1. a) Louise (1515-1517)
2. a) Charlotte (1516-1537) married James V, King of Scotland (b. 1512) in 1531
3. a) Francis II, King of France (b. 1518)
4. a) Henry, Duke d’Orleans (b. 1519)
5. a) Madeleine (b. 1520) married Francis I, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1518) in 1536
6. a) Charles, Duke d’Angouleme (b. 1522)
7. a) Margaret (b. 1523)

Gaston of Foix, Duke of Nemours (b. 1489) married Marguerite d’Angouleme (b. 1492) in 1507

1. Louis, Duke of Nemours (b. 1508) married Isabelle d’Albret (b. 1512)
2. Marguerite (b. 1510) married Henry Tudor, Duke of York (b. 1508)
3. Francis (1514-1523)
4. miscarriage

Maximilian I, Duke of Milan (b. 1493) married Bona Sforza, Duchess of Bari (b. 1494) in 1512

1. Francis II, Duke of Milan (b. 1514) married Beatrice of Spain (b. 1516)
2. Isabella (1517-1524)
3. Beatrice (b. 1520)

*Madeleine Anne of Albany is the daughter and only surviving child of John Stewart, Duke of Albany and his wife and cousin Anne de la Tour d’Auvergne. She is called Madeleine after her maternal aunt (who died in childbirth with a daughter who lived only few hours a month before her birth) and Anne after her mother and paternal grandmother

NOTES:
Here Joanna became pregnant with another child shortly after the birth of Isabella (who here will be usually called Elizabeth, for better distinguish her from her namesake half-sister) and give birth to ATL Mary, her last child by Philip, before departing for the land journey to be crowned in Castile. Once arrived there Philip and Ferdinand repeatedly fight, until Philip fall ill and die less than two months after arriving in Castile and before any coronation or swearing of the Cortes (Ferdinand was delaying them and the fact who he and Philip were in disaccord about everything and who Philip was not satisfied of anything helped a lot that delaying). Joanna was devastated by her husband’s death, but Ferdinand quickly sent all their entourage back in Burgundy after the funeral. Now Ferdinand do not want absolutely naming Charles as heir of either Castile or Aragon, but he also do not feel any need to remarry (as he is already free from Philip and can remarry Joanna to someone of his choice) and instead push his daughter to remarry to Ferdinand, the former Duke of Calabria (and that is an hard choice for him, as he hated that branch of the family, who originated from his uncle’s illegitimate son and has just seized Naples, but the boy, nine years younger than Joanna, is old enough to marry and the only male Trastamara available AND what Ferdinand was most right now are Trastamaras grandsons to follow him in Castile and Aragon). So at the end of 1504 a not thrilled Joanna remarried to a not convinced Ferdinand of Calabria, as both of them fear too much Ferdinand’s reaction if they try to oppose him (also Juana know she need an husband if want free herself from the control of her father while Ferdinand, know who he will remain a puppet of his namesake but being Joanna’s King Consort is better than being an hostage and in that way he would eventually recover Naples among the other lands). As soon Joanna and Ferdinand‘s eldest son, called Juan, is born his grandfather had him sweared as Prince of Asturias by the Cortes of Castile and as Prince of Girona by the Cortes of Aragon, replacing his older half-brother as heir of both Kingdoms. Joanna continued to not be thrilled, but continue to play along as she is already resigned to never see again her children by Philip (and extremely grateful who Margaret is taking good care of them) and know who Castile is fully against being ruled by the Duke of Burgundy (as Philip had made only enemies there ) and Ferdinand is not a bad husband (and as he is another victim of her father‘s ambitions they are bonding over that) and she is falling in love with her new son (and now nobody will try to take away her baby from her) so the situation is tolerable.
In the meantime Henry VII had chosen Louis XII’s niece over Maximilian’s as new bride for his heir (as the French King offered a bigger dowry and the Bavarian girl was engaged and her next sister a little too young), but accepted another niece of Maximilian (the next sister of the two proposed for Arthur, with a lower dowry than that offered for Arthur) as bride for the Duke of York. Germaine’s biggest fault is who she has no Lancastrian blood, but the alliance of France compensated it (that mean who Arthur’s son will need to marry a girl with the right blood, but Henry is hopeful who he will have many choices), and is overjoyed when his namesake grandson is born in 1504 and when the boy has a couple of years he arrange for him a betrothal with Archduchess Elizabeth of Austria-Burgundy (after Henry’s death in 1515, the girl would be married to the widowed Sisgismund of Poland in 1516).

 

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Another work-in-progress (as always), in my usual timeframe. POD is Philip the Good of Burgundy and Isabella of Portugal having another surviving child, a daughter who married March.

Philip III, Duke of Burgundy (1396-1467) married a) Michelle of France (1395-1422) in 1409, b) Bonne of Artois (1396-1425) in 1424, c) Isabella of Portugal (1397-1471) in 1430

1. c) Anthony, Count of Charolais (1430-1432)
2. c) Joseph, Count of Charolais (1432)
3. c) Charles I, Duke of Burgundy (b. 1433) married a) Catherine of France (1428-1448) in 1440, b) Isabella of Bourbon (1437-1465) in 1454, c) Margaret of York (b. 1446) in 1468
   1. a) John, Duke of Burgundy and Lorraine (b. 1448) married Isabella II, Duchess of Lorraine (b. 1445) in 1462
      1. Charles, King of Lorraine (b. 1463) married Anne of France (b. 1461)
      2. Isabelle (1465-1470)
      3. Marie (1468)
   2. b) Mary (b. 1457) married Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1459) in 1475
4. c) miscarriage
5. c) stillborn daughter (1436)
6. c) Isabella (b. 1438) married Edward of York, Earl of March (b. 1442) in 1456
   1. see under Edward​

Edward IV, King of England (b. 1442) married Isabella of Burgundy (b. 1438) in 1456

1. Cecily (1457)
2. Richard III, King of England (b. 1459) married Isabella of Viseu (b. 1459)
3. Edmund, Duke of York (1460-1462)
4. Edward, Duke of York (b. 1462) married Cecily Bonville, Baroness Harington (b. 1461)
5. Isabella (b. 1464) married John IV, Duke of Brittany (b. 1463)
6. Margaret (1466-1468)
7. John, Duke of Bedford (b. 1467) married Anne de Mowbray, Countess of Norfolk (b. 1472)
8. Anne (b. 1469) married Charles VIII, King of France (b. 1470)
9. Catherine (b. 1472) married James IV, King of Scotland (b. 1473)