Is this TL a good start?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • No

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Perhaps?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .
Not really familiar with armenia turkish relationship but why would armenia allowed turkey to be one of the country that send troops to their border, isn’t armenia still hated the turk becouse of the genocide and isn’t turkey and armenia didn’t have any diplomatic relations
 
Not really familiar with armenia turkish relationship but why would armenia allowed turkey to be one of the country that send troops to their border, isn’t armenia still hated the turk becouse of the genocide and isn’t turkey and armenia didn’t have any diplomatic relations
Not exactly. They are Peacekeeping Troops and well they aren't going to be based on the Armenian side of the border at all.
 
Well damm, the americans just threw themselves in Iraq huh? I'm interested in what the russian response will be about the invasion and how it will affect the TL with a different Eastern Europe and the UK not supporting the war.
Anyways, keep up the good work and I eagerly await for the next chapter.
 
Well damm, the americans just threw themselves in Iraq huh? I'm interested in what the russian response will be about the invasion and how it will affect the TL with a different Eastern Europe and the UK not supporting the war.
Anyways, keep up the good work and I eagerly await for the next chapter.
Thanks
 
Blair not supporting the Iraq War will have consequences, for one he is likely to remain popular and Brown may not move against him like OTL. Chances are he hangs on and manages to get some of other things he wanted to do like rail nationalisation without the distraction of Iraq.

Once/If not WMD are found it will help boost him. The Lib Dem’s will not be able to crow ‘told you so’ as loudly here.
 
Blair not supporting the Iraq War will have consequences, for one he is likely to remain popular and Brown may not move against him like OTL. Chances are he hangs on and manages to get some of other things he wanted to do like rail nationalisation without the distraction of Iraq.

Once/If not WMD are found it will help boost him. The Lib Dem’s will not be able to crow ‘told you so’ as loudly here.
Yeah aftereffects will be far reaching
 
I doubt Russia will intervene directly in Iraq War. I’m not sure Russia’s relations with Saddam Hussein at that time but I’m pretty sure they’re not going to bailed him out. Russia was recovering its economy, war is the last thing they want anyway.
 
Chapter 14: Tensions Erupt Throughout the World
Chapter 14: Tensions Erupt Throughout the World

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The Economic Times: Russian Economy hits $1 Trillion as Russia announces CSTO meeting in response to Invasion of Iraq

February 5th

In response to the Invasion of Iraq by the United States of America and the Coalition troops, the Russian Federation has called upon all CSTO members for a summit in Volgagrad today. It seems that these country’s foreign ministers will be meeting each other in Volgagrad, as the leaders of the country’s themselves are en route to New York for the United Nation’s meeting. The Russian Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov made a speech this morning denouncing the American invasion.

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Boris Nemtsov.

We have no solid evidence that Iraq has WMDs. No other country on the planet and their intelligence agencies have verified this, and America has launched a punitive invasion of Iraq. This is not the 19th century where nations can go to war with other nations as they please. The Russian Federation asks the Coalition troops and the NATO troops to stop this encroachment of another country’s integrity and sovereignty.”

Russia’s economy has just now hit the $1 trillion mark, and there are fears that the Russian government could cash in more economic relative power from this distraction that America has embroiled itself in. The Russian government has announced a plan called the ‘Relative Acts’, which allows the Republics of Chechnya and Dagestan, both federal republics within Russia, to endorse family visa to citizens of Iraq who are relatives of the Chechens and Dagestanis living in Russia. Already the American Association has announced that around 30,000 Iraqis are eligible for this Relative Act, and that many of them are already being taken out of the country trough Iran.

The Russian government has also already stated that any economic fallout from the invasion of Iraq, most especially in oil, will be America’s fault and that America will have to pay the world economic forum for it. America has rejected this.

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New York Tribunal:

United Nations Security Council in deadlock as China and Russia become locked with America!

February 6th

Within the United Nations, the Security Council is in upheaval. News has arrived that the Security Council devolved into polite threats being made at each other. The Russians and the Chinese governments have allied to each other in this matter and have denounced the invasion by the American government. The Chinese government set forward a resolution to make America pull out of Iraq however the move was vetoed by the United States of America and United Kingdom as well.

The Russian government has warned the American government that any American proposition for Iraq would not be in favor of Russia and that Russia would veto them. The Russian stance has been supported by the People’s Republic of China. The Turkish government has also shown their displeasure with the invasion. The Islamic Republic of Iran has announced general mobilization of their armed forces in case ‘America forgets the boundaries of sovereign nations’. America has condemned this action. However Russia has agreed with this stance of the Iranian government and has announced negotiations with Iran over 150 T-90 main battle tanks, and missiles. America has accused Russia for ‘saber-rattling’.

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American Ambassador to the United Nations.

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Секретный документ - Российская Федерация.

Нынешняя ситуация в Ираке больше всего беспокоит национальную безопасность нашей страны. Совершенно очевидно, что с учетом той огневой мощи, которую использовали американцы, у правительства Ирака нет шансов выжить после вторжения смены режима. Разведка ФСБ сообщает нам, что само правительство Соединенных Штатов не совсем уверено в том, что оружие массового уничтожения есть даже в Ираке и Багдаде. Из этого можно сделать вывод, что американское правительство больше озабочено установлением проамериканского правительства в Ираке, чем фактическим обнаружением оружия массового уничтожения - если оно существует, а у нас есть доказательства, чтобы подозревать, что их нет. В лучшем случае мы нашли доказательства того, что химическое оружие действительно существует, однако, какие возможности и какие доказательства еще предстоит проверить. Однако что мы действительно знаем, так это то, что оружие массового уничтожения в тех масштабах, которые Америка поддерживает на общественной арене, - это всего лишь повод для вторжения в нацию, и это не обязательно так.

Правительство предприняло шаги, чтобы российское вторжение не повредило интересам России в регионе. Мы должны связаться с повстанцами в Ираке, в первую очередь с курдами и восточными иорданцами в восточной сирийской пустыне, и начать снабжать их оружием. С нашей помощью они начнут партизанскую кампанию на низком уровне против американцев и Запада. Старое советское оружие, которое у нас есть в большом количестве, будет продано и передано этим группам для помощи в их кампаниях. Чем дольше американцы закрепляются в Ираке и отвлекаются от всего остального мира, тем больше это приносит пользу нашему делу и нашему народу.

Что касается наших вооруженных сил, то в настоящее время у нас есть 1 000 000 человек личного состава и около 2 300 000 человек в резерве. Если возникнут какие-либо военные действия, то российские вооруженные силы в настоящее время готовы. Наши танковые и бронетанковые войска модернизированы до танков Т-90. Около 35% танков ограничиваются танками Т-72 и Т-80. Ожидается, что к концу 2005 года они будут заменены на Т-90.

В общем, это ваши оперативные приказы Агент AA001A78A01.

- Командный центр 0001A111101101A.

Translation:-
Classified Document – Russian Federation.

The current Situation in Iraq is most concerning for the national security of our nation. It is quite obvious with the amount of firepower the Americans have brought in that the government of Iraq haven’t a chance in order to survive this regime change invasion. FSB intelligence tells us that the government of the United states itself isn’t quite sure that Weapons of Mass Destruction are even there in Iraq and Baghdad. From this, it has been discerned that the American government is more pre-occupied with installing a pro-american government in Iraq rather than actually finding weapon’s of mass destruction – if they exist, which we have evidence to suspect they do not. At most we have found evidence that low does chemical weapons do exist, however to what capability and to what substantiation, is yet to be verified. However what we do know is that the weapons of mass destruction to the scale of which America has espoused on the public arena is a mere casus belli to invade the nation and not necessarily true.

The government has undertaken steps to make sure that Russian interests in the region aren’t hurt by the Russian invasion. We are to contact the rebels in Iraq, primarily the Kurds and the East Jordanians in the Eastern Syrian Desert and start supplying them with weapons. They shall start a low-level guerilla campaign against the Americans and the west with our aid. Old Soviet weapons which we have multitudes off shall be sold and given to these groups to aid their campaigns. The longer the Americans become entrenched in Iraq and distracted from other worldly, the more beneficial it is to our cause and our nation.

Regarding our armed forces, we have currently 1,000,000 active personnel and around 2,300,000 reserve personnel. Should any kind of military action become necessary then the Russian armed forces are currently ready. Our tank and armored forces have been upgraded to the T-90 Tanks. Around 35% of the tanks are limited to being T-72 and T-80 tanks. They are expected to be replaced by the T-90 by the end of 2005.

All in all these are your operational orders Agent AA001A78A01.

  • Command Center 0001A111101101A.


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The Diplomat:

The American Government Accuses Russia and China of Funding Iraq with Weapons: President Yavlinsky calls accusation ‘preposterous.’

February 10

As the American War in Iraq grows in scope and in size, the American government has accused the Russian government and the Chinese government of supplying the Iraqi Army. Ari Fleisher, the spokesperson of the American President has blamed the Russian and Chinese government for the recent failures of the American forces to advance properly. The American troops in Basra are quickly becoming bogged down in the region, and the hand held anti-aircraft missile systems of the Iraqis have made the American Invasion slow down to a crawl and urban fighting, which the Iraqi army with experience form Iran have ample experience in doing.

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Ari Fleisher accusing Russia and China.

The Russian Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov has given a speech in the state Duma of the Russian Federation regarding this accusation. He has stated that ‘The American war in Iraq which has taken the lives of hundreds and thousands of Iraqi civilians is a warcrime and she must be brought before the International Court of Justice. Be the proprietor be Pax Americana or Pax Somalia, every nation must be held accountable for their actions, and the actions committed by the American nation, now extending the blames of their failures to us, must be held accountable, lest we allow one nation dictate what other countries do.’

The Chinese government has also denied accusations from the American government about supplying Iraq. The Chinese government has retaliated by announcing that should Chinese embassies or diplomats be bombed to death again, like the intervention in Yugoslavia, then the Chinese retaliation would ‘not be in the interests of America or China’. The government of America has not reacted to this in a good manner, and the fears of confrontation over the Taiwan Question. The Russian government has announced in retaliation that they are going to be conducting a military exercise with the Chinese and Mongolians with around 150,000 Russian troops going to partake in this exercise. The Chinese have announced that 200,000 Chinese troops will take part in this exercise and the Mongolians have announced that 10,000 Mongolian troops will take part in this exercise. This exercise has been dubbed Zapad – 100, and will take place in Vladivostok next week. Apparently this will be used to see the readiness of Russian and Chinese Troops in the area with such short notices.

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Russian tanks being transferred for the Wargames with China and Mongolia.

The Russian and Chinese governments have also issued warnings to America to not blame without evidence. This has been regarded as a subtle snub that any evidence of weapons of mass destruction have not been found in Iraq.

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