Bookmark1995
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But could this end up affecting the quality of the work if some higher authority pushes them into the writing and script?
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But could this end up affecting the quality of the work if some higher authority pushes them into the writing and script?
Perhaps, and that's likely what happened during the first few decades, but there might be a degree of freedom on the artist's behalf.
Bookmark1995
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Well, there would definitely be an animated series about Jack the Giant Slayer, with the giants representing the brutality of capitalism.
BP Booker
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Mmmh, as a historian, I have feelings about this...
Well anyways, now that were talking about animated media aimed at children...
The Brothers Green
The Brothers Green is an American half-hour animated family series that airs on PBS Kids every Saturday morning since 2011, The series follows American brothers Tory and Rory Green, special agents of the ECO Defense Force agency, and their adventures as they travel the world preventing ecological disasters. The brothers are equipped with a special “A.N.T” exoskeleton that allows Rory to perform incredible feats of strength and an advanced S.O.N.G headset that allows Tory to communicate with animals. Opposed to the ECO defense force is the mysterious THUNDER Organization, an evil cartel of amoral and ruthless capitalists and their front companies that seeks to exploit the worlds natural resources for profit. The series not only exhorts the virtues of taking care of the planet -such as recycling and ethical farming-, but also educates children on various facts and figures about the animal and natural world -such as the intelligence of birds and the social structure of pack animals-. The brothers visit both exotic locals, such as the mountains of Tibet and more familiar places (to Americans), such as the Florida Everglades. Characters of the popular series include:
Tory and Rory Green: Special Field Agents of the ECO Agency, both represent opposite composite characters: Rory is the fast thinking, brawny adventurer that jumps at every opportunity while is Tory is the more diligent, quiet thoughtful scientist. Despite their differences they both work together to foil the plans of THUNDER and save the natural work, even if the clash once in a while
Daniella: The intelligence agent for ECO, a world class hacker and computer engineer that can find just about everything in five minutes. She often serves as the “expositor” character detailing information about the animal of the week, although she is also quite capable in the field when needed
Gen. Arretez: An evil general from a vaguely European nation, the head of THUNDER and the main villain of the series. His schemes range from attempting to poison the Mississippi river to cripple Americas fisheries and force the nation to buy from his exploitive fishing companies to detonating an enormous bomb over the Papuan jungle to knock down millions of trees for profit
Agent Jin: Secondary antagonist/antihero of the series, a rogue agent sometimes working for ECO, sometimes working for Arretez, sometimes working for her own agenda. Has a bit of a “thing” with Rory [1], or as much as they can show in a kid show
The series bears some resemblance to the late 80s and early 90s “The Planeteers”, another animated series about protecting the environment and traveling around the world. Like “The Planeeters” there is a strong internationalist message (ECO is shown to be multicultural organization and the brothers meet several allies in various parts of the world) and a focus in social responsibility
Plots of The Brothers Green Include:
Ep 17: Tarantulas Attack!: There has been an surge in tarantula population in Brazil and the people can’t take it anymore. A mysterious company appears with the promise of extermination all spiders from the region with a new “Miracle Bug Spray” but ECO Brazil is suspicious. The abnormal increase in spider population has thrown the whole ecological balance out of whack, it’s up to the brothers green and ECO agent Rosa to uncover the mystery and stop the people from destroying the environment with the bug spray. This episode serves to educate children on how tarantulas are rarely dangerous (but still one must be cautious) and just how fascinating they are
EP 22: Whale Radar: The Inuit people of Greenland are being accosted by THUNDER submarines that seek to destroy the Greenland Ice Sheet with missile blasts, to uncover their rare materials, and they are wrecking the local whale population with their sonar equipment. The brothers must find the secret under water base where THUNDER operates, which they do with the help of Agent Haakon and some helpful whales. This episode teaches children about how whales and dolphins communicate underwater, and the problems that sonar created for them
EP 39: The Meerkat War: There has been a series of earthquakes in a non-earthquake prone region of South West Africa, which local “scientists” blame on the meerkat population. Not believing this lunacy ECO dispatches the brothers to ascertain the real cause of the earthquakes, which they find to be an international mining company… using robotic meerkats to hollow the earth out. The real meerkats then go to war with their robotic impostors, while children learn of the incredibly complex meerkat society and habits.
[1] Think of Batman and Catwoman, but PG
Bookmark1995
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This seems like a Captain Planet, with Red overtones. It doesn't seem like a master piece, but it could make for some hilarious memes.
Since 2011? I want to turn into a child and see!
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One question - In your country really hate the film Last Action Hero?
Bulldoggus
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You know, given the percentage of the Jewish population that is communist ITTL (Which, between the US, Eastern Europe, and Palastine, plus entente Lefties, is almost certainly an overwhelming majority), I wouldn't be shocked if low-key antisemitism was kind of a norm in the AFS. Not, like, blood libel or Der Sturmer or anything, just a mild unease and a lot of crude jokes.
Quite. If people think references to 'cultural Marxism' are annoying OTL at best, indicative of nastier ideas at worst, imagine how it's going to be in a world where the majority of the world's Jewish population lives in Red countries. As you say, soft anti-Semitism probably won't be frowned upon as much as it is in our world. I suspect if we eventually focus at some point on hate crimes directed against populations deemed subversive in the AFS sphere there will be more than a few new Dreyfuss Affairs that rear their ugly heads (and even in Red countries like the USSR which is still going to be grappling with Russia's historical anti-Semitism like how Bookmark showed a while back).
Bookmark1995
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While some countries like the UASR might parade the Holocaust around (as proof of the evils of Nazism), others might smother it under a blanket of paranoia. I can imagine ITTL Brazil, Sweden, and France doing that.
Redshank Galloglass
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It will probably be about the level of our parents anti-semitism. Lots of crude oven jokes and shit. As the years pass I'm sure that anti-semitism will begin to Decline with detente and all that.
Hopefully the "greedy jew" stereotype is a dead letter.
Bulldoggus
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Yeah, sort of like my Grandpa. But even with detente, there will be some nastiness, especially if a Miliband leads one of the left parties.
Bookmark1995
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We do NOT accept Jews, because they REJECT Christ! And their control over the International Banking Cartels are at the root of what we call Communism today.
Clayton Townley, Mississippi Burning.
So no, the Greedy Jew will still abound.
One of the things that this discussion got me thinking about is: what is the Comintern policy towards accepting refugees/historically persecuted populations from one of them to another? Several come to mind such as the Uighur in China, again Russia's Jewish population, First Nation people in the UASR (and depending on where you might live Africans outside of the republic they founded ITTL), and the Kurds, Druze, and Yazidi in various Middle Eastern republics. Obviously it's a bad look from a PR standpoint considering the ruling ideology but it does make me wonder how such things will be dealt with.
Yup. Even if it's as painfully anvilicious as OTL Captain Planet I'd still watch an episode where robotic meerkat miners go to war with real meerkats.
I'm actually curious about how the initial relationship between socialism and environmentalism goes in TTL. Obviously in cases where the environmentalist ideals have a direct tangible benefit to the proletariat (less smog, less lung cancer) they'll get along very well. But in cases where that is not so I'd imagine some more hardcore commies would not be onboard with the idea of curbing the country's industrialization (and it's ability to improve the proletariat's living standards) just because of some forest somewhere. Not to mention the fear of FBU outproducing them because of it.
Bulldoggus
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Not to mention that a hell of a lot of people will be trained and skilled at extracting fossil fuels, and resistant to the idea of leaving the trade their family has been in since time immemorial.
Bulldoggus
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Yeah. I'd assume the only way a Jewish-FBUer will get elected by the PA is if either they are of the rabid right of the party or they come from a place like Finchley.
There was an article in the most recent issue of Jacobin Magazine which described the efforts of Tony Mazzocchi, a union leader and one of the main advocates of what became OSHA, to build a coalition between organized labor and the new environmentalism of the late 60s and 70s. His goal was to link concerns about workplace safety, particularly in pollution-heavy industries, with broader environmental activism. But instead, the new green movements were increasingly shaped by corporate speak about individual lifestyle choices which took the focus away from the fossil fuel industry itself and its executives. This had the effect of giving the emerging Green Parties a primary base in the professional class and limiting their appeal among those on the lower ends of income, who haven't found the green movement's lifestyle-ism all that appealing.
What a successful green movement should aim for, both ITTL and ours, is an alliance with the workers involved in fossil fuel industries that's driven first by appeals to workplace safety. Even with a long storied history of militant labor organizing, the coal industry still had plenty of deadly accidents throughout what we've known as the Keynesian New Deal era. Never mind how the labor movement never really had a strong presence in the still-dangerous modern oil industry, at least in its strongholds of Texas and Louisiana among other right-to-work states. But a green movement ITTL which goes "hey, we'll fight for safety in fossil fuel workplaces as well as ensuring safe unionized employment in new renewable energy!" would make great strides.
Heck, we've recently seen an example of such activism having effects in, of all places, West Virginia. In that state's gubernatorial election last year, the Mountain Party (WV's state-level affiliate of the Green Party) candidate Charlotte Pritt earned a respectable 42,068 votes for 5.9% of the total. Still far surpassed by both Jim Justice and Bill Cole, and partly weakened by how Pritt previously ran for governor as a democrat in 1996. But it's still an impressive result nonetheless not just for a third party, but an environmental party smack dab in the middle of Coal Country.
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With a planned economy, the displacement effect of switching to renewable energy sources can be compensated for rather more effectively than it could elsewhere. It can also be forced much more easily.