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[Miss Teri]

Also,didn't Ireland in the Comintern was retconned,because i believe Sinn Fein was listed as a member of Labour(or ESCI,i forgot) in FBU?

Well, it listed Sinn Fein as a "fraternal" member of ESCI, but the description said that ESCI held fraternal links with members in countries that had left the Entente. Ireland's status is still up in the air.

Hey - well, at least the information on the American literary magazines have? You can not just write a review without knowing where it will be published. Why ignore me ?

P.S. - If I will be asked to answer the question why me, I do not participate in the discussion of fashion, here's my answer - in the first place, I have already expressed their ideas on the subject, and secondly Dieselpunk clothing I'm not interested, why wear boots in the heat?

Sorry, it was lost in the discussion. I imagine literary reviews are still attached to certain magazines or political newspapers.

 

[The_Red_Star_Rising]

To my knowledge Ireland does not go red.

 

[Edward_Elric]

Anyone here familiar with the work of Ivan Efremov? It's just that I have an idea ... And a couple of questions - whether there is an attachment to the literary magazines political factions? And if in this world sputnik - 1? All these questions relate to my idea.
Guys, I'm serious - help really does not even put. Somebody - respond!

Regarding Ivan Efremov - I believe paleontology (and taphonomy in particular) can become more developed, thanks to the access that Efremov would have to American research in the years just before WWII.

Sputnik 1 might still happen around the same time or even earlier, depending on how much exchange of research there is with the USSR.

Hey - well, at least the information on the American literary magazines have? You can not just write a review without knowing where it will be published. Why ignore me ?

P.S. - If I will be asked to answer the question why me, I do not participate in the discussion of fashion, here's my answer - in the first place, I have already expressed their ideas on the subject, and secondly Dieselpunk clothing I'm not interested, why wear boots in the heat?

When discussing literature from elsewhere in the world, American literary magazines would likely focus on works from authors in other Comintern states. Meanwhile, writings from Cuba/FBU/India/Brazil etc would mostly become popular if they're from dissidents. UASR literary magazines with a broad focus on capitalist-sphere writings might not have as much popularity.

Agreed with you about the clothing styles, at least when discussing Miami fashion in the UASR.

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Speaking of Miami? What was previously said about it being a more militarized city can be accurate, but not necessarily to a dominant extent. IOTL, there were a lot of military bases built in South Florida during WWII. But even after the Cuban Revolution, most of the facilities were shut down and turned over for civilian use through the 50s and 60s. The university I attended was built on one of these former bases back in the 60s. But with this Cold War, it's likely that Port Everglades in Ft. Lauderdale will be a more-or-less permanent naval base.

Miami will still gain a large population of Latin Americans, but it'll be noticeably different from OTL. Cubans fleeing to Florida will likely be mostly from lower-class backgrounds, contrasting to the initial displacement of rich (and mostly white) elites by Castro's revolution. Perhaps there could still be an analogue to the Mariel Boat Lift, but those exiles might be better integrated to Miami than OTL's initially were in the years when drug war violence peaked in the city. Immigrants from elsewhere in the region will vary. Perhaps a larger Brazilian population will show up, depending on that country's post-WWII development.

 

[WotanArgead]

Sorry, it was lost in the discussion. I imagine literary reviews are still attached to certain magazines or political newspapers.

I do not understand the American press, so I would like to know which journals can publish reviews, and who at some positions.

 

[WotanArgead]

Regarding Ivan Efremov - I believe paleontology (and taphonomy in particular) can become more developed, thanks to the access that Efremov would have to American research in the years just before WWII.

Sputnik 1 might still happen around the same time or even earlier, depending on how much exchange of research there is with the USSR.


When discussing literature from elsewhere in the world, American literary magazines would likely focus on works from authors in other Comintern states. Meanwhile, writings from Cuba/FBU/India/Brazil etc would mostly become popular if they're from dissidents.

I am interested in the reaction to his work and his philosophy - I want to write a review on behalf of american publication faces (even two, one - devastating, the other - positive).

 

[Alexander the Average]

A few thoughts on language in the FBU:

Given that Britain and France are going to be united into a political union, and that the official policy with regards to language is going to be bilingualism with French and English taught universally, it seems reasonable to assume that British English is going to absorb a lot of French words and idioms. Therefore I think it would make sense for British characters to occasionally drop the odd French term, given that by now they would have had over two generations of bilingual education and cultural exchange with their continental counterparts.

Inevitably this is also going to extend to swear words and insults, because what's the point of enriching your vocabulary if you can't use it to tell someone they're being a bastard. As a result I can see terms like douche and douche bag ITTL being regarded as Britishisms rather than American terms.

Just something to think about.

 

[Bookmark1995]

I took bits and pieces from the actual history of various corporations and public figures to make it seem more realistic:



I'm really glad you liked this. I wasn't sure if anyone would be interested in this kind of stuff.

I think you did a pretty good job. I did the same thing when I created Emile DuMont, where I combined various stories of wartime occupation, Holocaust survival, humanitarian work, and celebrity turmoil. My two greatest inspirations for DuMont were Elie Wiesel (a survivor who loses a father and a sibling, writes a book, and build a postwar career as a humanitarian and Nobel Laureate) and Maus' Vladek Spiegelman (a survivor who had no real happy ending, as demonstrated by his poor personal life, bigotry, and declining health in old age). How do you think I did with writing that?

Yeah, there are a lot of stories of great business people with demons and shady business practices. George Pullman and his dictatorial policies, Edison and his ability to steal credit from his employees, J. Paul Getty and his Scrooge-like parsimony. ITTL, the most infamous businessman of all is Henry Ford, who has become one the most hated people ever (and of course Emile DuMont's personal Satan).

Speaking of Miami? What was previously said about it being a more militarized city can be accurate, but not necessarily to a dominant extent. IOTL, there were a lot of military bases built in South Florida during WWII. But even after the Cuban Revolution, most of the facilities were shut down and turned over for civilian use through the 50s and 60s. The university I attended was built on one of these former bases back in the 60s. But with this Cold War, it's likely that Port Everglades in Ft. Lauderdale will be a more-or-less permanent naval base.

Miami will still gain a large population of Latin Americans, but it'll be noticeably different from OTL. Cubans fleeing to Florida will likely be mostly from lower-class backgrounds, contrasting to the initial displacement of rich (and mostly white) elites by Castro's revolution. Perhaps there could still be an analogue to the Mariel Boat Lift, but those exiles might be better integrated to Miami than OTL's initially were in the years when drug war violence peaked in the city. Immigrants from elsewhere in the region will vary. Perhaps a larger Brazilian population will show up, depending on that country's post-WWII development.

It is not just military bases that make Miami both more militarized and more open to social change.

Remember, OTL Cuban-Americans are some of the most right-wing, wealthy, and patriotic of all the Hispanic communities in America. Their great political influence in Florida (in terms of wealth and voting numbers) has influenced US-Cuban relations for decades.

ITTL Cuban Americans, like their OTL counterparts, have embraced the values of their adopted nation wholeheartedly. But TTL America, those values are human and social liberation. Most Cubans Americans and their descendants probably train and prepare for the day the can liberate their homeland from "Macaco and his successors". So whole generations of Cuban families will have joined the armed forces beyond mandatory training. Since "human freedom" is far from a buzzword in the UASR, Miamians will be the first to embrace social changes. That's why in the modern day, military fatigue and swim suits are most common fashion in South Florida. The former because Cubans expect to invade their homeland any day, the latter because they embrace the Second Cultural Revolutionary idea of not overdressing. But also, their voting power means that they prevent any kind of the change in foreign policy toward Cuba. And if things improve in ITTL Cuba, that hostile policy may prove nonsensical like OTL.

 

[Alexander the Average]

But also, their voting power means that they prevent any kind of the change in foreign policy toward Cuba. And if things improve in ITTL Cuba, that hostile policy may prove nonsensical like OTL.

Given the highly decentralised nature of USAR democracy, would Cuban-Americans have the same degree of influence over foreign relations with Cuba as IOTL though? Without the Electoral College alone Florida isn't a key swing state that needs to be appeased, so even though an aggressive stance against Americuba will be a die hard local issue national scale politics will probably be more open to Realpolitik and détente, although there are still plenty of other considerations that would keep the USAR on an aggressive footing.

 

[Bookmark1995]

Given the highly decentralised nature of USAR democracy, would Cuban-Americans have the same degree of influence over foreign relations with Cuba as IOTL though? Without the Electoral College alone Florida isn't a key swing state that needs to be appeased, so even though an aggressive stance against Americuba will be a die hard local issue national scale politics will probably be more open to Realpolitik and détente, although there are still plenty of other considerations that would keep the USAR on an aggressive footing.

Good question. Where there are a couple of things that could affect the power of Cuban-Americans:

1. Florida is still going to be an important socialist republic, vote-wise, since the rise of air conditioning, space travel, Hispanic immigration, and retirees (who will probably get dachas rather than condos) will lead to a mass migration to the state postwar like OTL. Cubans will have an increasingly populated voice in an increasingly populated area.

2. Assimilation. Cuban Americans OTL are often very assimilated into American society, and have joined the halls of power. ITTL, Cuban Americans will probably do the same thing. Even in a socialist, syndicalist society, there are still hierarchies of power and positions of prestige. Cubans, by embracing socialist values, could easily enter positions of power, where they can steer the ship of state to their demands.

 

[Alexander the Average]

Been reading up on some proposed Megaprojects (because every timeline needs some Megaprojects), and it strikes me that, given the established postwar situation in East Asia, with Korea, Japan, China and the USSR all in the same bloc and economically interconnected, this and this would probably be feasible projects.

 

[Marisa Kiridifferent]

Alaska-Siberia highway and bridge?

 

[Mr. C]

Really great post. Though I personally feel that it would make more sense for the workplace policies to be switched around. It seems to me that the more authoritarian and "patriotic" approach would fit better with the post-Canada reactionary turn, whilst the more paternalistic approach seems more suited to the 60s to the mid-70s, which I imagine is the FBU's high point for liberal conservatism and progressive paternalism (though I may be proven wrong).

Finlay was smart enough to realize that everything else had gotten politicized during the '79 crisis so he felt that the rest of the country was doing the job for him

Wondering whether there would be a fish and chips franchise too?

Of course, there would be. The largest two would be one called H. Salt Esquire (after founder Haddon Salt) and Arthur Treacher's (after the actor). IOTL, these chains actually exist in America, and were national chains until rising seafood costs led to them winding down operations to their original areas (Southern California and Ohio, respectively)

 

[Alexander the Average]

Alaska-Siberia highway and bridge?

Take a train from Berlin to Buenos Aires via Tokyo.

 

[WotanArgead]

Take a train from Berlin to Buenos Aires via Tokyo.

Always I wanted to go to Japan.

By the way - I want to open a small vote - as some have noticed, I want to create two literary reviews on behalf of the American literary magazine. And I would like to give you a choice on what product is best to write a review.
First - Andromeda: A Space-Age Tale (as the most famous and successful work of Yefremov, as a major Soviet utopia).
Second - Razor's Edge (outside the USSR, he is little known, but it is possible to tell the central or basic novel).
Third - The Bull's Hour (one of the most critical of novels, the largest Soviet dystopia, it is necessary to take into account that in the Soviet Union, the novel was banned and abroad Yefremov agreed to print only what is published in Russian in America he appeared in the best case, only after 72 th (death of the writer, I warn you - a lot depends on the writer's widow) or after

 

[Miss Teri]

Always I wanted to go to Japan.

By the way - I want to open a small vote - as some have noticed, I want to create two literary reviews on behalf of the American literary magazine. And I would like to give you a choice on what product is best to write a review.
First - Andromeda: A Space-Age Tale (as the most famous and successful work of Yefremov, as a major Soviet utopia).
Second - Razor's Edge (outside the USSR, he is little known, but it is possible to tell the central or basic novel).
Third - The Bull's Hour (one of the most critical of novels, the largest Soviet dystopia, it is necessary to take into account that in the Soviet Union, the novel was banned and abroad Yefremov agreed to print only what is published in Russian in America he appeared in the best case, only after 72 th (death of the writer, I warn you - a lot depends on the writer's widow) or after

Andromeda sounds good.

 

[BootOnFace]

I know that the people on this board have an obsession with megaprojects, but things like a Bering Bridge or a bridge across the Sea of Japan are insane. Maybe we'll have a real TransAmerican highway from Halifax to Patagonia, with the Darien Gap being cut through with road and rail. Or a Northern River Reversal thanks to the better Soviet economy in the 60s and 70s.

But taking a train from Berlin to Buenos Aires is pure science fiction.

 

[Bookmark1995]

There is something I've always wondered: what was Herbert Hoover's life like after he ended up in England?

ITTL, the life of the last Herbert Hoover would be a very interesting historical topic. I bet an American Socialist author would write a best-selling book called The Last President, painting a complex picture of the last Constitutional President.

I imagine that Hoover would be ashamed over letting MacArthur bully him into suspending the Constitution. Considering his work as a humanitarian, I bet that he spent the last part of his life helping the poor, especially World War II refugees.

But what would UASR people think of him by the modern day ITTL? OTL, the historical viewpoint of Hoover has gone from calling him "a heartless fiend who let millions go into the poor house" to "a man who, while not causing the problem, couldn't grasp the scale of the problem".

Early on, I bet many UASR people would go from thinking he was a "bourgeois reactionary coward" to "a man who was under duress, and that he had no control over the bourgeois system that embraced fascism".

One historical event I imagine happening is a Great Reconciliation: an elderly Herbert Hoover returning to his home on the 30th anniversary of the Revolution. He would give a speech in Debs where he would apologize for failing to defend American democracy, and the UASR government moved by his rhetoric, and realizing that hating an old man is a waste of energy, would publicly absolve him.

Or would there be too much shame on Hoover's part, and too much contempt on the part of the UASR for such a public display of forgiveness to happen?

 

[tuxer]

Snip

If that happened, it would be in the immediate aftermath of WWII when the FBU was under a Labour government and optimism was the order of the day.

 

[Knightmare]

Kinda curious how Key West is doing.

If Miami is militarized, then Key West, which is all of 90+ miles from Cuba, is going to be really militarized.

 

[Catsmate]

Kinda curious how Key West is doing.

If Miami is militarized, then Key West, which is all of 90+ miles from Cuba, is going to be really militarized.

Possibly lots of small, fast boats? Useful for refugee rescue, espionage and general harassment of Cuba.