Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Beedok, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    There were plans to establish Bjarmeland colonies in Northern Russia after a Soviet defeat, but the areas that would be colonized were never specified so I had to leave that out
     
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  2. Entrerriano Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure really. As far as I know, it wasn't very clear what the "zones of influence" would be. Not sure tho.
     
  3. Christory Well-Known Member

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    Continuing my sort-of-trend of showing massively inflated nationalist goals, here's a good one.

    Akhand Bharat is an Indian expansionist idea that began during the struggle for Indian independence and continues to the present day. The most limited versions simply aim for India to control Pakistan and Bangladesh, as shown below.

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    Of course, this is just the smallest version of Akhand Bharat. Some iterations are more... umm... ambitious.

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    Yes, that's all of ASEAN, all of the Indian subcontinent, Tibet, Yunnan, Taiwan, PNG, and I think there's some of Iran in there but it's hard to tell.

    So, yeah, if you thought Zhirinovsky was a crazy imperialist...
     
  4. Imperator Frank Tellurian Worldbuilder

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    It does indeed seem to contain Iranian Baluchistan.
     
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  5. Kaushlendra pratap singh Well-Known Member

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    That's the second map is only for 0.00000000001 % people, but in the first map Nepal is not included and Tibet southern parts (brahmulputra river basin ) is not included
     
  6. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    Interesting how the first map excludes Sikkim
     
  7. TheFakeGeeLee Active Member

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    The Greatest United States based on Wikipedia's 51st State page and two other proposals. (King-Crane and Italian Unionist Movement)
    Darkest to Lightest, Proposed Mandates, Proposals that had legitimacy behind them, Only legitimacy is that they were in a vote, and based on satirical statements.
     
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  8. Iserlohn Amateur Cartographer

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    A very quick patch for the newly-proposed situation for Jammu and Kashmir by the Indian government. The state of Jammu and Kashmir is to be dissolved and to be separated into two Union Territories, Jammu and Kashmir & Ladakh. Areas controlled by Pakistan and China respectively are marked in darker shades. Gilgit-Baltistan's status is rather unclear with that new proposal, though it is unlikely that India would drop its claim on that territory (though it might be possible for India to formally create its own version of that terrritory).

    It's very much current politics, but it should be useful to have here anyway.
     
  9. Christory Well-Known Member

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    The American Expansionist Party also outlined plans for Ireland.
     
  10. xsampa Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how America would have changed its perception of itsf had it acquired the King-Crane mandates (basically the Ottoman Empire)
     
  11. Bennett Human Time-Waster

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    Probably would've been seen as America spreading "its glorious Anglo-Saxon values to the uncivilized savages of the Middle East"
     
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  12. Christory Well-Known Member

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    So, next I think I'll try to map what Big P himself has said regarding Russian irredentism.
     
  13. Mr_Fanboy Well-Known Member

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    Imagine films that are essentially Westerns following the exploits of some United States Marshall in the deserts of the Middle East.

    Easterns, if you will.
     
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  14. Luminous Headwing Consulting

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    Crossposting as the above US map reminded me of it and I believe it never actually was included in here.

     
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  15. Christory Well-Known Member

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    So, it turns out this is a lot harder than what I thought it would be since Putin is mostly being either very unambitious or secretive about his plans, most likely both.

    But here's what I've got so far:

    https://balkaninsight.com/2017/01/18/putin-s-old-moldova-map-alarms-romania-01-18-2017/
    https://www.kyivpost.com/article/co...vasion-of-georgia-putins-words-sti-91772.html
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/ukra...-practically-one-people-idUKL5N0QZ2QF20140829
    https://web.archive.org/web/2008022...ir/en/news/view/menu-239/0802233413164912.htm
    https://nationalpost.com/news/putin...ne-naming-nato-as-russias-top-military-threat
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo.../Has-Vladimir-Putin-blinked-over-Ukraine.html
    https://www.rt.com/russia/russia-friendly-relations-georgia-953/
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-bel...n-vladimir-putin-alexander-lukashenko-1333800
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...transnistria-feel-about-annexation-by-russia/
    https://www.researchgate.net/figure...-proposed-by-Russian-president_fig2_318024458
    https://eunepa.com/eurasia-is-just-warming-up-the-expansion-of-a-future-defining-economy/
    https://mycountryeurope.com/international-relations/other-european-union-threat-rise/

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/russia-geography-ukraine-syria/413248/

    I'll keep working on this until i have a more complete picture ready.
     
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  16. Nathan Bernacki Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of this:

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  18. BrobDingnag Well-Known Member

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    That’s an awesome idea. Maybe TTL John Wayne would have set his movies in Anatolia instead… I wonder how much land we would have outright kept for ourselves and how much of it would have been devolved into independent nations. It’s important land, after all, and there are a fair few Christians in it. People could have been convinced to keep some. Given the example size in the map above, surely Wilsonian Armenia would have gotten its full borders… but could they have wanted to become a state of the Union?
     
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  19. Mr. Bubbles Well-Known Member

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    Worlda version of the Balkan Union, aka Greater Yugoslavia
     
  20. Itsa Member

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    [​IMG]another "what will happen when the USA collapses" map