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Then the Entente is gutted. What's the number on the German side?
Around 1.5 million men. They were on the defensive most of the war behind major fortifications. Still, the Commonwealth + France and the low countries can take casualties more than Germany alone can. They don't even have the Italians on their side in the war. Nor do they have Romania, Hungry or Yougoslavia. Germany is about it.
 
I wasn't aware of that, what do you suggest they export instead?
That's Japans problem, it does not have a lot that the US want. OTL its major exports ( outside its captive empire ) are wool products ( made from in the main from imported wool ) , raw silk and rayon ( ie artificial silk ). DuPont with nylon is eating away at the last two. Japan was in a trade deficit and that was after being artificially boosted by arranging prices/manufacture in the Empire to its advantage. It lacks shipping and its military program is using up all its raw materials and then some.

As its factories are more workshops handcrafting than mass production and it has protectionist measures distorting the market, it just cannot compete on anything manufactured on price. Its basically in a downward spiral it can only get out of by either acquiring resources or pulling out of China and reducing its military. Without FIC, its in quite a bit of a worse place than OTL economically ( FIC was a money machine which is why the French tried so hard to keep it, supplying rice and rubber among other things ), baring divine intervention, it will not allow itself to lose face by stepping back so its hard to see what it can do ( other than OTL, but without FIC its much harder, it cannot realistically attack Malaysia without taking FIC first ).
 
That's Japans problem, it does not have a lot that the US want. OTL its major exports ( outside its captive empire ) are wool products ( made from in the main from imported wool ) , raw silk and rayon ( ie artificial silk ). DuPont with nylon is eating away at the last two. Japan was in a trade deficit and that was after being artificially boosted by arranging prices/manufacture in the Empire to its advantage. It lacks shipping and its military program is using up all its raw materials and then some.

As its factories are more workshops handcrafting than mass production and it has protectionist measures distorting the market, it just cannot compete on anything manufactured on price. Its basically in a downward spiral it can only get out of by either acquiring resources or pulling out of China and reducing its military. Without FIC, its in quite a bit of a worse place than OTL economically ( FIC was a money machine which is why the French tried so hard to keep it, supplying rice and rubber among other things ), baring divine intervention, it will not allow itself to lose face by stepping back so its hard to see what it can do ( other than OTL, but without FIC its much harder, it cannot realistically attack Malaysia without taking FIC first ).
The Soviets not the US. It is already figuring on fighting the US. What do they have that the Soviets might want? Then again keeping the Allies occupied is worth quite a bit in itself.
 
The Soviets not the US. It is already figuring on fighting the US. What do they have that the Soviets might want? Then again keeping the Allies occupied is worth quite a bit in itself.
Even less, about the only thing Japan had OTL the Soviets did not have is natural rubber , hence the synthetic plants the USSR built, but without control of FIC , Japan has none to give.( checked on China , all the commercially significant rubber is from plantations created after the Communist victory in the Civil War. Looks like Mao decided to reduce the need for imports, in fact most of the production growth seems to be actually from the 1970's onwards as China industrialization accelerated )
 
The Rome Pact lost around 700,000 themselves. Japan lost around 600,000 men during this timeline while the Chinese have lost around 900,000.
 
Around 1.5 million men. They were on the defensive most of the war behind major fortifications. Still, the Commonwealth + France and the low countries can take casualties more than Germany alone can. They don't even have the Italians on their side in the war. Nor do they have Romania, Hungry or Yougoslavia. Germany is about it.
Yeah but the Entente doctrine was to wage a war of firepower : amass men,tanks, artillery, planes and crush through the defensive line of the Heer without taking too much risks.
 
Yeah but the Entente doctrine was to wage a war of firepower : amass men,tanks, artillery, planes and crush through the defensive line of the Heer without taking too much risks.
That was the plan but they don't always work. If people think I made the battles too bloody I will go back and change them. That is hardly my expertise.

I should have looked up the statistics beforehand. It was bloody but not that bloody, at least for the Wallies.Although the numbers were horrific the vast majority of deaths come from the countries of the USSR, Germany, China and Japan. I am going back and reducing the deaths by 3/4.
 
New Casualty Figures Number dead about twice as many wounded.
Wallies 500,000
Germany 440,00
Russia 175,000
Rome Pact 175,000
Japan 150,000
China 225,000
 
Even less, about the only thing Japan had OTL the Soviets did not have is natural rubber , hence the synthetic plants the USSR built, but without control of FIC , Japan has none to give.( checked on China , all the commercially significant rubber is from plantations created after the Communist victory in the Civil War. Looks like Mao decided to reduce the need for imports, in fact most of the production growth seems to be actually from the 1970's onwards as China industrialization accelerated )
OK, they will export wool. The Soviets can slaughter some of their sheep for mutton and use some of the land to grow something.
 
Apr 4,1942

Neither the Allies nor the Soviets were particularly expecting a war with each other at this time so neither were prepared nor had many troops in the region. As such, they sparred back and forth with only 1,000 dead in the week.

The South was different as both the Rome Pact and the Russians figured another war might break out as war just stopped a short time ago. The Rome Pact was pushed back 20 miles with 3,000 dead each in that week.

Russia was totally unprepared for Finnland being too spread out. The Finns drove the Soviets 50 miles in that week losing only 500 men to the Soviets 2,000.

The French and British navies push into the Baltics but there is little the Soviets can do about it. They lose a dozen subs and a couple of destroyers while damaging a couple of cruisers in return.

The Soviets declare that when they win they will reunify Germany. That they will liberate Germany and form a unified Communist Germany. Moscow is trying to get the Germans on their side by offering to reunify Germany, albeit under Communist rule. This strikes a chord amongst the Germans many of whom respond positively to the message, though not a majority. The Communist Resistance Movement is strengthened though still too weak to do much other than propagandizing quietly and forming cells.

April 14, 1942
The British and French purchase 20,000 M2 Halftraks each. They also purchase 500 Wolverine TDs each (Stuart tank chassis with 6 pounder guns) as they worry about Russian tanks. They also purchase 2,000 Kittyhawks a piece to deal with Russian infantry.

The US stops producing M2 Mediums and concentrates entirely on Shermans. It sells the last 300 M2s it has to the Rome Pact along with 40,000 trucks, 300 Wolverines, and 500 Thunderbolts. Unlike the Soviets, both the Rome Pact and the Allies are now fully motorized.

The 14th, the 17th, and the 19th India Infantry Divisions arrive on the front lines coming by rail after being shipped to Amsterdam.

April 28, 1942
Japan invades the FIC, Guam and the Philippine Islands. The invasion of French Indochina was conducted by the 15th Japanese Army. The French were forced back from the Japanese assault losing 2,000 men over the week against the Japanese 1,500. The Vietnamese Communist Party under Ho Chi Min collaborates with the Japanese being advised to by Stalin. He is convinced that the Japanese are coming to liberate them from Western Colonialism. By his thinking, Asian Colonialism must be better than European Colonialism. It takes some time before he recognizes his error.

The Invasion of Guam doesn't go as well for the Japanese as OTL as it has been reinforced by a tank company of Stuarts, 2 squadrons of Thunderbolts, 3 of Dauntlesses and 2 of B17s. The Americans are being pushed back but they are definitely bleeding the Japanese. The Japanese lose both their gunboats,300 men and 5 Zeros during the landing itself. Instead of OTL cakewalk, they have a fight on their hands. They will still win but it will cost them. The Americans lose 3 of their Stuarts,50 men, and 4 Thunderbolts.

The Philippines goes considerably better for the Americans as well. It has been reinforced with 5 squadrons of Thunderbolts, 3 squadrons of Kittyhawks, 4 of Dauntlesses and 2 of B17s along with the Philippine Army getting 6 months of decent training and armed with Garands. It is also reinforced with 50 M2 Medium Tanks which by this time is basically a Grant Tank with a 6 pounder gun instead of a 75MM.

Due to the increased number of planes, a couple of airfields are built so they are more spread out. The Japanese are able to destroy only the B17s and 2 Squadrons of Thunderbolts on the ground. The Japanese lose 22 Zeros, and 8 Bettys while the Americans lose 6 Thunderbolts, and 12 Kittyhawks in the air.

The ground invasion is far bloodier for the Japanese than OTL losing 1,200 men in the initial landing while the Philippine Army lost 2,000 and the Americans 1,200. The Japanese are merely 1,000 yards deep in the first day.

Apr 29,1942

The US and the Allies and the Rome Pact all declare war on Japan. The US Congress votes to increase the USN by 6 CV, 12 CVEs, 6 BBs, 20 CAs, and 36 DDs . The draft is enacted immediately and the Congress authorizes the raising of 1 million men in both the army and the navy. The floodgates open on US military spending. US weapon production doubles within the year. It is producing weapons faster than it can train men to use them so US foreign weapon shipments actually go up.
 
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US ships planned date of commission
Late March- Early April,1942 20 DDs
Late May - Early June, 1942 10 CAs
Late July-Early August, 1942 3 CVs
Mid Aug-Mid Sept, 1942 12 DDs
Mid Sept-Mid Oct,1942 3 CVLs
Late Oct-Late Nov, 1942 6 CAs
Oct-Late Nov,1942 12 CVEs
Early Feb-Early Mar, 1943 36 DDs
Early Mar-Early Apr,1943 20 CAs
Late May-Late Jun,1943 6CVs
Early Oct-Early Nov, 1944 6 BBs

These numbers are on top of the pre 2 Oceans Naval Act not after it. Also, I imagine some of these ships might never be commissioned due to the end of the war. I am not sure exactly when that will happen as I haven't planned that far ahead.

Other navies are at OTL.
 
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What do you think the various navies can send to the Far East with only the Soviet Navy to guard against with the Baltic and the Black Sea Fleets virtually bottled up at the get-go? The navies are the RN, the French Navy, the pre-Two Oceans Act US Navy, the Italian Navy, and the Dutch Navy.
 
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