Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by pattontank12, Sep 25, 2017.
Yo, is there more of these? I've seen another and I want to assemble what happened ITL
Speaking of the potential history video, how barebones do you think KTL vanilla HOI4 is compared to OTL Kaiserreich
Here's my ideas on what the National Populists of Canada would be like. If a Natpop Canada submod were to exist, I could see Fuller having his own Natpop path in the National Focus Tree, while Blackmore could be the Natpop leader of Canada if Canada were to be puppeted by another power, like Pelley's Commonwealth of America.
John Frederick Charles "Boney" Fuller, also known as J.F.C. Fuller (September 1, 1878-November 10, 1963), a British and Canadian Army officer, military historian, and armored warfare strategist who was the founder and leader of the United Empire League (UEL), the largest far-rightist and national populist political party in the Commonwealth of Canada. Fuller served in the British Army from 1899 until 1925, during both the Second Boer War and the First Weltkrieg, after which he fled to Canada during the British Revolution. While living in Toronto, Fuller wrote and publish numerous books on military strategy, the most famous of which was The Foundations of the Science of War, published in 1927. As a result of the British Revolution and his exile in Canada, Fuller gained an intense hatred of Sydnicalism, Socialism, Communism and Bolshevism, and he also became impatient with what he considered the inability of the democratic government of Canada to adopt military reforms. In 1932, Fuller and other like-minded British exiles founded the United Empire League in Toronto. The party was largely modeled on the Associazione Nazionalista Italiana founded by Italian writer Gabriele D'Annunzio in Republic of Italy and called for "a unified Canadian nation under corpratist and nationalist rule" in an effort to "finally defeat Socialism and reclaim the British Isles for God, King and Country." The party advocated for the replacement of Parliament with a Grand Imperial Council and the office of Prime Minister with the totalitarian office of "Lord Protector", a style of corporatism in the vein of D'Annuzio's ideals, a strong military, the establishment of local militias and political youth organizations to militarily train Canadian citizens, a strong sense of Canadian and British nationalism and Anglo-Saxon racialism. The party was openly hostile towards Jews and Jewish-Canadians, as many in the party believed that Syndicalism was part of a "Judeo-Socialist" Conspiracy, Asian Canadians, as they were blamed for many social problems, and Native Canadians, with the party supporting the program of residential schools, as well as the ideologies of Sydnicalism, Socialism, Communism and Bolshevism, as well as immigrants from Socialist countries. The party was mostly on the fringes of Canadian politics, with the party gaining no seats in Parliament and winning over only a small part of the Canadian electorate and the British exile community. During the Second American Civil War, Fuller and the UEL petitioned for the Canada to directly intervene in the war and invade the Combined Syndicates of America. While Canada occupied New England, Alaska and the Panama Canal Zone, Canada did not intervene directly in the war, with New England, Alaska and the Panama Canal Zone being handed back to the United States of America after the end of the war. Fuller served as a reporter during the Spanish Civil War, writing in support of the Carlist Kingdom of Spain. During the Second Weltkrieg, Fuller enthusiastically supported the war effort and helped the Canadian General Staff develop new armored warfare strategies, this in spite of his open support for national populist regimes such as Savinkov's National Republican Russia, Iron Guard Romania, the Empire of Japan, Nationalist Argentina and Synarchist Mexico, among others. During the war, Fuller also enthusiastically supported the Intregalist governments of Portugal and Brazil. After the Russian and Japanese declarations of war on Germany, Fuller supported for peaceful settlements between Germany and Russia and Germany and Japan, as he did not want to see the Entente involved in wars with Russia and Japan. After the war, Fuller returned to England and continued to write books about military strategy and military history, among other subjects. Fuller retained his political convictions until the end of his life, and during the 1950s and 1960s, he supported numerous far-rightist and national populist groups in the United Kingdom. He also wrote in support of the Russian State and the United Kingdom, British Commonwealth, United States of America and the rest of the Entente developing closer relations with the Russian State in an effort to combat the German Empire and the Reichspakt, as well as the national populist regimes of Latin America. He also wrote that the Entente should aggressively undermine and even invade the remaining socialist regimes in Asia and Latin America. He died of natural causes in his home in Falmouth, Cornwall on November 10, 1963 at the age of 85.
John Horne Blackmore (March 27, 1890-June 14, 1972), a Canadian school teacher, principal and politician who was a founder of the right-wing populist Social Credit Party of Canada and later a member of the United Empire League led by J.F.C. Fuller. In 1932, Blackmore became one of the founders of the Social Credit Party of Canada, which he helped to found alongside Sir William Aberhart, the future Premier of Alberta from 1935 until his death in 1943 and William Duncan Herridge, who became the first leader of the party. Not long before Aberhart became Premier of Alberta, Blackmore openly broke with Aberhart over numerous disagreements, such as Blackmore's thinly veiled yet open Anti-Semetic views and support for corpratism within the party. In 1935, Blackmore left the Social Credit Party of Canada and then joined the United Empire League of J.F.C. Fuller. Blackmore then became a close friend and confidant of Fuller and a staunch supporter of the UEL, with Blackmore becoming one the most influential Canadian members of the party outside of the British exile community of Canada. Not long after the Second Weltkrieg ended, the UEL disbanded in 1948, with its goal of Canada taking over Britain having now been achieved, with Blackmore founding a new party, the Canadian National Republican Party (CNRP), a far-rightist and national populist party modeled on Savinkov's People's Republican Party of Russia (NRPR), the national populist ideology of National Republicanism and the Russian State as a whole. Meanwhile, most of the British members of the UEL either quit politics or joined new far-rightist groups in Britain, while most of the Canadian members of the UEL joined the CNRP. The party supported the end of the monarchy in Canada, as in Blackmore's mind, it no longer served any purpose with the restoration of the monarchy in Great Britain, the amalgamation of the Head of State and Head of Government into one office known as "Grand Director", corpratism, Christian and Protestant fundamentalism, nativism, anti-semetism, restriction on immigration into Canada from non-European countries and the withdrawal of Canada from the Entente, as Blackmore saw the Entente as little more than a "British, French and American pet-project", with Blackmore fearing that the USA would overtake the Entente and then overtake Canada itself. The party also openly supported the Russian State of Boris Savinkov and other national populist regimes across the world. After Blackmore's death in 1972, John Ross Taylor, a veteran of the Entente invasion of Britain, one of the earliest members of the party and a close protege of Blackmore, became the new leader of CNRP. Taylor led the party until his own death in 1994, after which the party disbanded.
Any pics of KR Australasia?
Here is a map of Kaiserreich: Red World, a scenario I've been brainstorming for a while where Revolutionary Socialism reigns supreme in the world of Kaiserreich, on Sunday, January 1, 1950.
In 1936, numerous events transpired that tipped the balance of global politics in favor of the Third Internationale, such as the bloodless re-establishment of Soviet Russia under Nikolai Bukharin, the beginning of the Maximato in Mexico, the rise of Syndicalism in Australasia, the rise of Socialism in Iran, the rise of Syndicalism in Finland, the Indochinese Revolution, the victory of the Worker's Party in Norway, the rise of Radical Socialism in Sweden, the victory of the social democrats in the Brazilian elections, among others. Within the Third Internationale, the Jacobins of Marcel Déat rose to power in France, the Maximists of Oswald Moseley rose to power in Britain, while the status qou of Palmiro Togliatti remained in power in Italy. For many months, it seemed as if Totalism would become the mainstay of Socialism in Europe. However, all of this changed in 1937 when T.E. Lawrence and Maurice Gamelin launched their respective coups against the Totalist governments of the Union of Britain and the Commune of France, while Benito Mussolini and his Totalists were consistently suppressed and thrown to the sidelines of Italian politics. 1937 also saw the Swiss Revolution, the rise of the Arpists in the Peru-Bolivian Confederation, the rise of the Maximalists in the Bharatiya Commune, the rise of Syndicalism in Burma and the Philippines, the Dutch Revolution and the outbreak of the Second American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, the Great South American War, the Romanian Civil War, the Ottoman-Axis War, among others. 1938 saw the collapse of Mittleafrika, the foundation of the Argentine Commune, the Caribbean Commune and Socialist Centroamerica, the Greek Civil War, the Soviet Russian invasion of the Ottoman Empire, among others. On September 11, 1939, the Second Weltkrieg broke out, with the German Empire and Reichspakt surrounded on both sides by the Third Internationale. As a result, the German Empire and the Danubian Federation signed the Prauge Pact, a temporary alliance between the two established in an effort to combat Revolutionary Socialism within Europe during the Second Weltkrieg. Sadly, the Prauge Pact would fail to defeat the Revolutionary Socialist alliance of the Third Internationale. After years of long stalemate along the Western Front, in 1942, the United Socialist States of America led by President Earl Browder entered the Second Weltkrieg, thus eventually tipping the balance in the favor of the aforementioned alliance. On November 22, 1944, Berlin finally fell to the combined forces of France, Britain, Italy and the Soviet Union. On November 25, 1944 the remnants of the German government surrendered to the armies of the Third Internationale, thus ending the Second Weltkrieg in Europe, while the war continued on in North America and in Asia. On April 25, 1945, the Dominion of India surrendered to the Bharatiya Commune, and on August 21, 1945, the Canadian capital of Ottawa finally fell to the armies of the USSA. The remnants of the Canadian government would not officially surrender to the Third Internationale until September 14, 1946, with the signing of the Treaty of Edmonton, thus ending the Second Weltkrieg after over seven long years of warfare. After the end of the war, it seemed that most of the world would now be united under the banner of Revolutionary Socialism and that the dream of Karl Marx had finally come to pass. However, that was not to be, and soon after the end of the war, rifts began to emerge between the Western European socialist nations, led by the Commune of France, which embraced Syndicalism and Libertarian-Socialism, and the Eastern European Socialist nations, led by the Soviet Union, that embraced the new-doctrine of Syndicalist-Bolshevism (a mix of Syndicalism and Bolshevism) and more authoritarian forms of Socialism such as Communism. Meanwhile, the USSA founded its own American Socialist alliance with the People's Republic of Mexico, an alliance dedicated to Marxist-Leninist Communist Socialism. As a result, in 1950, the world remains divided between the Third Internationale led by France, the Fourth Internationale led by the Soviet Union, the American Socialist Alliance led by the USSA and the Eastern Syndicalist Union led by the Bharatiya Commune. Major independent socialist powers include the People's Commune of China and the Socialist Republic of Iran, while Indonesia, Egypt and South Africa remain the last bastions of liberal democracy in the world. As the year of 1950 and the decade of the 1950s dawns, what happens next is anyone's guess.
Not to get off topic or anything, but I've just started a KR colab of a Kaiserreich TV franchise: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/kaiserriech-tv-series-a-collaberative-project.472477/
It might give you guys some ideas.
Atom-dieselpunk Kaiserreich: "The Kaiser has initiated the Armageddon Protocol begin global nuclear bombardment."
The Fate of America was a 1990 war movie that focused on the four key figures of the Second American Civil War.
Japanese propaganda poster made for the German-Japanese War.
Here is a map of Kaiserreich: Dark World, a scenario I've been brainstorming for a while where National Populism reigns supreme in the world of Kaiserreich, on Sunday, January 1, 1950.
In 1936, numerous events transpired that tipped the balance of global politics in favor of the Russian State, the Kingdom of France and other nationalist regimes, such as the rise of the Synarchists in Mexico, the restoration of the Orleanist Kingdom of France in Algiers under Action Française, the rise of the regime of Sadao Araki in the Empire of Japan, the rise of the Australasian Guard in Australasia, the rise of Vidkun Quisling in Norway, the election of the Intregalists in Brazil and the foundation of the Empire of Brazil, the election of ANI of Italo Balbo in the Republic of Italy, among others. The following year of 1937 would see the rise of the United Empire League in Canada, the election of the Intregalists in the Two Sicilies, the rise of the VHN in the Netherlands, the Lawrence Coup against Oswald Moseley's regime in the Union of Britain and the restoration of the United Kingdom, the rise of the regime of Eugen Bircher in Switzerland, the Austro-Hungarian Civil War, the foundation of the Empire of Hyderabad, the Valdes Coup in the Philippines, the rise of José de la Riva Agüero in the Peru-Bolivian Confederation and the foundation of the Andine Empire, the rise of the Leopardos in Colombia, among others. 1937 also saw the outbreak of numerous new wars such as the Second American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, the Great South American War, the Romanian Civil War, the Ottoman-Axis War, among others. 1938 would see the Insulindian Rebellion, the beginning of the South African Civil War and the Central American Wars, the Russian Invasion of the Ottoman Empire, among other such events. Finally, on September 11, 1939, the Second Weltkrieg broke out. Soon after the start of the war, things were starting to go very well for the Third Internationale, with the fall of Flanders-Wallonia and the French and British armies reaching the Rhine River by Christmas, 1939. However, all of this would change in 1940 when the Kingdom of France, the Kingdom of Spain, the United Kingdom and the Kingdom of Portugal, along with other members of the Entente, launched a joint invasion of the Commune of France. With the Commune of France having placed so much of its armies along the front lines against Germany, their southern border with Spain was left heavily under-defended. As a result, the Entente invasion of France, coming from two directions to Southern France from Algeria and to Northern France from Britain, was a massive success. It was also in 1940 that the Russian State declared war on the Riechspakt over a border dispute with Finland, and the Russian State invaded Ukraine, White Ruthenia, Lithuania, the United Baltic Duchy and Finland. Meanwhile, the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, as a member of the Entente, began its invasion of the Socialist Republic of Italy led by Benito Mussolini, and the Italian Imperium then declared war on the Third Internationale and invaded across the Po River into the Socialist Republic of Italy. Finally, the Empire of Japan declared war on the German Empire and the Reichspakt and the Netherlands and invaded German East Asia and the Dutch East Indies. In 1942, Paris finally fell to the Franco-British armies, with the remnants of the Communard French armies stuck in French-occupied Germany and throughout different parts of France. Meanwhile, the Commonwealth of America led by President William Dudley Pelley concocted a false flag indecent along the Canadian-American border and used it as an excuse to declare war on Canada, thus beginning the American-Canadian War. Soon after the defeat of the remnants of the Communard French armies, tensions began to grew between the Entente and the Reichspakt, and in 1943, after numerous skirmishes along the Franco-German border, the Kingdom of France and the rest of the Entente declared war on the German Empire and the Reichspakt as the German Empire continued to retreat against the armies of the Russian State along the Eastern Front and as the Empire of Japan and its allies continued to gain ground in Indochina, Malaya and Micronesia. In 1944, the Russian State and its allies of the Legionary State of Romania, the State of Poland and the State of Serbia declared war on Hungry and the remnants of the Austrian Empire. In India, not long after the capitulation of the Bharatiya Commune, the Empire of Hyderabad declared war on the Dominion of India. In 1946, with German East Asia conquered by Japan, with Eastern Europe under Russian occupation, with the Entente and Russians advancing from both east and west and as Germany was collapsing, Vizekönig Hermann Von Göring declared the independence of Mittelafrika and opened the door to German and other European refugees. Soon afterwards, Hungary and the remnants of the Austrian Empire surrendered to the Russian State and its allies. On June 16, 1946, Berlin finally fell to the Russian armies. On July 1, 1946, the Treaty of Potsdam was signed and the remnants of the German government surrendered to the Entente, the Russian State and the Empire of Japan, thus ending the Second Weltkrieg. On September 12, 1946, the remnants of the Canadian government, as well as the government of the West Indies Federation, surrendered to the Commonwealth of America. On August 23, 1947, the Dominion of India finally surrendered to the Empire of Hyderabad, which then became the Empire of India. With the end of the Second Weltkrieg, tensions began to the increase between the newly re-formed Royal Entente and the Russian State and its allies, which in 1947 formed the Muscovite Pact, with the Royal Entente representing traditionalist, reactionary and royalist national populism and the Muscovite Pact representing revolutionary, republican and third positionist national populism. As a result, in 1950, the world is divided between the Royal Entente led by the Kingdom of France, the Muscovite Pact led by the Russian State, along with its independent allies of the Italian Imprium, Norway and Denmark, the Freedom League of the Commonwealth of America and its puppet states, the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere led by the Empire of Japan and the Buenos Aires-Lima Pact led by Argentina. Major independent powers include the Indian Empire, the Empire of Brazil, Gran Colombia, the Kingdom of Mittelafrika, the Republic of Suid-Afrika, Masonic Liberia, the Ethiopian Empire, the Sultanate of Egypt and Saudi Arabia, while the Republic of China and the Sultanate of Egypt are the last bastions of Liberal Democracy in the world. As the year of 1950 and the decade of the 1950s dawns, what happens next is anyone's guess, but to many observers, it looks as if a war seems inevitable between the Italian Imperium and the Kingdom of Two Sicilies and the Commonwealth of America and Synarchist Mexico, with the question not being if, but when these two wars will break out.
Wow this world sucks. I guess I'd have to live in the Royal Entente as the most healthy place for me (although as an Irish Catholic, I'm begging to doubt even that...)Speaking about Ireland how is it? I'd persume the Brits would of conquered it. Or maybe it could be one of those bastions of Democracy with the Pope fleeing to it to maintain Catholic neutrality
Kaiserreich AUS Ending. (Game crashed so I’ll just chart up how it was gonna go anyway. I think I will continue the story sometime in the equivalent of the Cold War, and so on. I suppose I will call it the Dunwich-Timeline, for ease of reference.)
The Second Weltkrieg ended on Christmas Day, 1949, with the atomic bombings of Paris, Warsaw, and London, signalling the demand for unconditional surrender of the Third Internationalé was not to be dismissed. By this point in time, Europe was stained with the blood of more than forty million dead, and the war weary Entente had ground themselves dull. With only a handful of conscripted divisions left between the three great nations of the Entente, defeat was inevitable. American high altitude jet bombers, dubbed “Peacemakers” outflew the remaining Syndicalist air forces and ended the lives of 260,000 civilians overnight. With the war’s end, Europe fell into a deep depression. It’s cities had been demolished or plundered, and its industries were shattered so thoroughly it would be decades before they would regain powers as globally relevant states. American Troops, from the hardiest veteran to the fresh volunteer, quietly took up posts from Edinburgh to Sicily, Madrid to Warsaw, while the statesmen and diplomats hashed our deals. Great Britain would eventually see the return of their royal family, and a semblance of pre-War order, before the assassination of King Edward in 1962 by Syndicalist terrorists.
Persia and Turkey would fall to the ever growing Arabian Caliphate in 1952 and 1956 respectively, and their power would fly from Triploli, to Istanbul, Tehran to Somalia. The growing Islamist super power would go onto dominate regional politics from the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean, though the state of Pakistan was created as a buffer between the embattled Hindu India to ensure no conflict. Brush wars have raged on and off in the Kashmir since then.
The Russian Republic is growing again despite its wound. Their natural gas, oil, and coal industries would slowly pump life back into the war ravaged European republics, and they would become a key American Ally in the future decades.
The Japanese Empire, together with American Union and Canadian Dominion allies, would finally see the death of Syndicalism with the defeat of the Australasian Union. The Philippines would be granted independence from their Australian occupiers, and the Pacific would return to a time of peace, the Japanese content with their embattled holdings in Korea and Indochina.
With world peace tenuously secured, and the United States poised to spring forth as the sole remaining singular superpower, the American Century would herald an age free of Tyrants, at least in the Western Hemisphere. They went to war as Traitors, but they came home, as Kings.
Gearóid Ó Cuinneagáin is the Taoiseach of the Irish State under a Gaelic Nationalist and Catholic Fundamentalist regime.
Dang it... Why didnt the brits conquer it?
Will you be doing a liberal victory world or any other ideological permutations? These are very cool.
The United Kingdom is also national populist under the United Empire League. J.F.C. Fuller and still is as of 1950 the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Fuller is expected to be succeed by his protege and fellow former exile Archibald Maule Ramsay. The Brits didn't conquer Ireland because they were to busy fighting the Germans, Americans and Imperial Indians to do so, although many in Westminster want to declare war on Ireland and retake Ulster and then turn Ireland into a puppet state.
I am working on a Kaiserreich scenario where liberal democracy dominates the world, so yes. It will certainly be a palette cleanser after the national populist world.
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