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Honestly I don’t really know like only reference about him was his co-conspirators, Stalin at Tsaritsyn during the Russian civil war so he highly dead by the end of the war.
Also guys we finally did it we reach over 300 pages over the course of 12 years in the making
Yeah, to sum it in my view, the Romanovs are rescued from Yekaterinburg by the attempt to do so that never occurred ITTL, with help from the Germans since they're the winners in GW1 and in a better position to do so. They'd very likely foil the plot to kill Michael in nearby Perm, as his wife Natalia Brasova and son George actually had been rescued with German assistance after the fact. Tsar Nicholas would've died a natural death sometime in the early 1930s, leaving the throne to his brother Michael as his son Alexis would have died as a result of his hemophilia, as Turtledove would like to imply in a case of "show and don't tell". After Michael's own death ITTL, the throne would not've gone to his son George as Natalia was of minor rank; thus, the title of Tsar would instead go to his nephew Vladimir Kirillovich, ruling until he dies or is overthrown. Another interpretation that is offered by David bar Elias is that Michael is succeeded by his ATL son who rules as Alexander IV, who probably exists because he either divorced Natalia and married a woman of acceptable rank, or he chooses another woman over Natalia ITTL.
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And indeed, congrats to all here making it to 300 pages!
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And indeed, congrats to all here making it to 300 pages!
We definitely will celebrate this post like we did at 191 page on TLAE.
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And indeed, congrats to all here making it to 300 pages!
What does change majorly for Russia ITTL is the Hispano-Japanese War, which would mean they would have to give up their concessions in Manchuria and Korea peacefully. That would also mean no Revolution of 1905 as we know, though it would still happen later due to rapid industrialization and increasing economic and wealth inequality.
If St Petersburg was the TL-191 of Hiroshima then whos going to been the TL-191 version of Nagasaki.Petrograd would have the potential casualties of highly hundreds of thousands Russian civilians were killed by the German bombs as well as aftermath from many other victims who will be effected by nuclear radiation caused by the blast.
But besides the Horror of Petersburg radiation, the city would be better off without the Nazis army ensiege that left an Million Soviet Man, women and children dead within 2 year as well as getting rid of czarist oligarchs by the blast.
I wouldn't surprise that the Czar Russia will either overthrow by Republican coup or just collapse by it own weight within a few years or so after the failed of two wars by the German twice times in 20 years.
St Petersburg wouldn’t be the capital for Russia for a long time and would highly have Moscow to be the capital instead
Honestly yes, of course because it more realistic to more people from OTL doesn’t existed and replaced with someone
Tsar Mikhail II and his PM would highly have Mass organized units like Black Hundreds militias and Okharna purge any "Maloross bandits" and "Gans sympathizers" across of czarist territory in during SGW. The main victims of these massacres are obviously the Jews but I wouldn’t be surprised they started targeting ethnic germans communities horribly with harassment, mistreatment and discrimination to even deportation.
The Mass killing of Jews would be European version of the Population Reduction down in the South in the SGW
It was a wonderful post and I hope that am be able to be as good as him soon. Allochronian and SM are my inspiration to make better posts on this thread
St Petersburg will be the Hiroshima of Europe
Also do you still going to do the project of the Superbomb soon?
Either London, Norwich, Brighton, Hamburg, Paris, or that place in between Burges and Ghent.
Paris at least works as equalement of Paris since it enforced France to surrend. I am not sure which nuke ended Churchill's government and enforced Brits to sue peace.
Hamburg perhaps is somehow comparable to V2 attakcs but not perfectly. Nukings were bit different things as in OTL so I don't think that we can draw very clear comparisons.
Hamburg perhaps is somehow comparable to V2 attakcs but not perfectly. Nukings were bit different things as in OTL so I don't think that we can draw very clear comparisons.
Picture of a destroyed black-owned Church in Richmond, November 1938, during the Night of Broken Glass.
"For the first time, I am ashamed to be a Confederate."- Former President Gaberial Semmes, 1938.
Highly be more bloody and even more persecuted than ever in the South
Unlike with Kaiser Wilhelm, they would not be as tolerant with the Black people unlike with the German Jews because the South have a lot of White led massacre on black communities during the Jim Crow era
I referenced Wilhelm's quote after Kristallnacht: "For the first time, I am ashamed to be German."
Picture of German troops withdrawing from Paris following the city's rebuilding in 1948 and the creation of the (German-backed) Fourth French Republic.
In honor of St. Patrick's Day.
Picture of the Irish Citizen Army outside Liberty Hall, 1914. The phrase: "We serve neither King nor Kaiser, but Ireland" would be used by Irish isolationists in the interwar period, during the Second Great War, at least before the 1941 British invasion of Ireland, and after the Second Great War.
O'Connell Street, Dublin, after the Easter Rising. The Easter Rising was crushed in 1916, but it would be the spark that would lead to the Greater Irish rebellion.
Picture of pro-British rebels in Northern Ireland during the 1924 Irish rebellion.
Picture of Irish forces in the defense of Cork during the 1941 British invasion of Ireland.
Aftermath of the defense of Cork, late 1941.
Picture of anti-British resistance in Ireland, 1943.
Picture of British collaborators, Belfast, April 1942.
Picture of Lisburn following its capture in mid-June 1941.
Picture of British troops withdrawing from Ireland in 1945, shortly after the singing of the 1945 Berlin Peace Treaties.
Picture of the Irish President inspecting troops outside Belfast City Hall on the day Northern Ireland's parliament first met. The 1945 Berlin Peace Treaties restored Ireland's independence; however, Northern Ireland was given autonomous status to stop future uprisings.
Picture of the Irish Citizen Army outside Liberty Hall, 1914. The phrase: "We serve neither King nor Kaiser, but Ireland" would be used by Irish isolationists in the interwar period, during the Second Great War, at least before the 1941 British invasion of Ireland, and after the Second Great War.
O'Connell Street, Dublin, after the Easter Rising. The Easter Rising was crushed in 1916, but it would be the spark that would lead to the Greater Irish rebellion.
Picture of pro-British rebels in Northern Ireland during the 1924 Irish rebellion.
Picture of Irish forces in the defense of Cork during the 1941 British invasion of Ireland.
Aftermath of the defense of Cork, late 1941.
Picture of anti-British resistance in Ireland, 1943.
Picture of British collaborators, Belfast, April 1942.
Picture of Lisburn following its capture in mid-June 1941.
Picture of British troops withdrawing from Ireland in 1945, shortly after the singing of the 1945 Berlin Peace Treaties.
Picture of the Irish President inspecting troops outside Belfast City Hall on the day Northern Ireland's parliament first met. The 1945 Berlin Peace Treaties restored Ireland's independence; however, Northern Ireland was given autonomous status to stop future uprisings.
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The Easter Rising was actually successful ITTL, IIRC, based on the implied fact that the British army stationed in Ireland leaving for Canada. (May have been some other user who actually said that, but sounds very plausible.) Also, the Protestant Loyalists were defeated and all left after the ATL Irish Civil War in 1922, so there would be hardly any of them left by 1945.
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Ok, that's fair. I don't remember if the books said anything about the Easter Rising, but yeah, the Easter Rising being successful makes sense.
Didn't Britain invade Ireland in the 2GW through Ulster?
Due to proxomity, yes. But like I said, there already would've been an exodus of the protestants who lived there.
Flag of the Dominion of Ireland (1941-1945), a pro-British government created after the 1941 British invasion of Ireland.