A while back, I saw someone post a TL 191 version of the movie patton. I am unable to find it at the moment, but until then, I had some ideas for a TL 191 version of Patton. The 1st idea is that it is based on, well, Patton, only from the Confederate POV, which could be very interesting. Idea 2 is that it focuses on Morrel, and Idea 3 is that it focuses on a German General, maybe Guideran or Rommel, and the fight in Eastern Europe?
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Heh, well, for Idea #2 --- If there was a TL-191 movie version in the same vein as "Patton", but about Morrel, I'm guessing it would either start with his career in WWI or pick up just before he takes command of US Forces around Pittsburgh. You know how in the movie "Patton" where it starts off with a few US officers surveying the aftermath of Kasserine Pass? Those officers could be replaced by Morrel or something as an aide reads off the casualties and losses to him as he's surveying it all.
Also if you were to make a movie about Morrel in WWI... like, if Rommel got his first taste of glory in Italy in WWI, it would have to be about Morrel and his efforts outside Nashville, during the big breakthrough year.
^^^ And like this would be the movie poster for it and it would read "Morrel in Nashville" or just simply "Morrel".
For the Patton movie idea --- That would be the fun one! It would be a journey for him and the audience to see, watching a proud, hard-charging general lose his glory among the ruins of Pittsburgh, and then following his efforts to stand and fight the yankees on his terms, only to be pushed back.
And of course that famous "Flag Scene".
Replacing the Stars and Stripes with Featherston's St. Andrew Cross. Would be a enduring image for sure.
Yo, someone should really make an edit of that though.
^^^ Credit: https://www.deviantart.com/finerskydiver - Finerskydiver from DeviantArt
Uniforms and equipment of the Freedom Party Guardsmen, with "mottled" tan colored camo pattern, circa 1941-42.
First shown in the popular German historical television series, Die Featherston Akten (The Featherston Files), a piece of rare footage of Confederate veterans from the War of Secession performing the "Rebel Yell" was recorded sometime in the 1930's, which was originally used for propaganda purposes under Featherston's rule.
The famous yell continued to be used by the Confederate soldiers during Der Zweite Große Krieg (The Second Great War) until the surrender of the Confederate States in 1944. Despite the severe, illegal nature of showing Confederate Freedom symbols and its related material in the United States in public and through the American media, the footage is kept in the American Library of Congress in Washington D.C., but viewing it and granting broadcasting rights is severely limited to historians, most of which are rarely granted permission.
The famous yell continued to be used by the Confederate soldiers during Der Zweite Große Krieg (The Second Great War) until the surrender of the Confederate States in 1944. Despite the severe, illegal nature of showing Confederate Freedom symbols and its related material in the United States in public and through the American media, the footage is kept in the American Library of Congress in Washington D.C., but viewing it and granting broadcasting rights is severely limited to historians, most of which are rarely granted permission.
Heh, you think the Confederacy would use that yell again during the Second Great War? I think so, on appropriate occasions.
I think there were instances of it happening, but I think it was considered too much of a risk when you are attacking. It was more prominent in the First Great War
Awww man, no Confederate Banzai charge then? With Featherston's Finest yelling like mad in the dead of night as they charge Yankee positions straight into certain death? You're breaking my heart
Missed opportunity.Now to be serious, yeah, they'd probably cut that out by the end of the Great War. Like so many old things, this one died too.
Awww man, no Confederate Banzai charge then? With Featherston's Finest yelling like mad in the dead of night as they charge Yankee positions straight into certain death? You're breaking my heart
Now to be serious, yeah, they'd probably cut that out by the end of the Great War. Like so many old things, this one died too.
I should have been more specific.
The Rebel Yell would normally be used during ceremonies and not during battles.
I view it more like the Confederate version of the US Marines' "Hoo-rah!" than anything else.
One imagines that it would be heard on the battlefield as well, though more probably from airmen and tankers than from the PBI, all too vulnerable crouching upon employment in their foxholes!
Overlook Castle. A historic home of Asheville, North Carolina built alike to a Tudor castle with Jacobean ceilings, it was go on to become a prison for Radical Liberal and Whig politicians, Anti-Featherston dissidents, and a famous football player. In the last days of the war, a CS Army regiment, and US Army regiment would come together to fight against a Freedom Party Guard division trying to retake Overlook Castle before Union reinforcements arrive and drove them off. From this, the 'Battle for Castle Overlook' became one of strangest battles of the Second Great War.
(This is base off the real life 'Battle for Castle Itter' where US and Heer soldiers fought side by side to fight off a SS Division. Even the Freach prisoners help!)
(This is base off the real life 'Battle for Castle Itter' where US and Heer soldiers fought side by side to fight off a SS Division. Even the Freach prisoners help!)
@Tiro, who do you think could work for being at Overlook Castle for the Radical Liberal and Whig politicians? Burton Mitchel maybe? (Have him take the place of Édouard Daladier and Paul Reynaud. I know earlier posts you did had him be murder by the Freedom Party in 36, but still.) Cordell Hull and Samuel Longstreet now come to mind.
This is really great. He should do others like this for regular CS and US soldiers for both Great Wars.
Here, a revised version he made, this time with a change in color for the camo uniforms and such.
The Nashville Parthenon. Built to cerebrate Tennessee's orignal Statehood, fitting with Nashville's moniker, the "Athens of the South". When the city was taken in 1917, and 1943, Union soldiers pose for pictures. One soldier of 43 said 'If this is the Athens of the South, then we are the Spartans of the North."
Confederate Marines landing in Haiti under heavy fire in 1941. Besides removing the threat of Union Military Bases in the Caribbean, Haiti was the very antithesis of the CSA and in Richmond eyes must be destroyed. (The reason why they invaded the first time.) The Confederates would be face the most extreme and heaviest fighting of the whole war as the South set up 3 Death Camps to murder the black Haitians and Afro-Dominicans (Camp Leclerc near Port-au-Prince, Camp Reflection south of Port-de-Paix, and Camp Reliant west of Tiburon.) while guerrillas would attack both CS and Dominican forces tooth and nail.
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Confederate Marines landing in Haiti under heavy fire in 1941. Besides removing the threat of Union Military Bases in the Caribbean, Haiti was the very antithesis of the CSA and in Richmond eyes. must be destroyed. (The reason why they invaded the first time.) The Confederates would be face the most extreme and heaviest fighting of the whole war as the South set up 3 Death Camps to murder the black Haitians and Afro-Dominicans (Camp Leclerc near Port-au-Prince, Camp Reflection south of Port-de-Paix, and Camp Reliant west of Tiburon.) while guerrillas would attack both CS and Dominican forces tooth and nail.
Good picture! Nice choice of names for the concentration camps, too!
I would also include a hypothetical Republic of Jamaica, too.
Hmm... I think they would leave the Domincan Republic alone and work together with Trujillo to get rid of the Black population of the Hispanola Island.
A ca. 1943 photo of Dominican dictator Rafael Trujillo (1891-1945).
The Dominican Republic's position in Caribbean politics had always been interesting since the Confederate purchase of Cuba in the 1870s. Nestled between Confederate, British, and French possessions, the country naturally inclined towards allying with the Entente, however this relationship would be increasingly challenged as the US and Germany poured investments into such countries as Venezuela, Honduras, and, most importantly, Haiti. As the world's first black republic founded as a result of a slave rebellion, Haiti became seen as an important thorn in the South's side to vengeful Northern politicians, and supporting the country in the midst of continued Entente strangling of the Caribbean market was deemed as a top concern to many as early as the 1890s after the humiliating defeat in the Second Mexican War. This US support for Haiti would be enough to see the country form a mutual defense pact with America just prior to the outbreak of the First Great War, a pact that would continue to blossom as the 1920s wore on.
By the mid 1930s, however, the situation had taken a radical change for the worse. By then Jake Featherston had assumed power in the Confederacy, and revanchist governments had also taken hold over Britain and France. In Mexico a more hardline right wing government under Francisco Jose II was propped up by the Confederates, a government which increasingly threatened the tentative peace that had so temporarily settled over Latin America. To make matters worse the global depression would see the US' Socialist administration retreat into a bout of isolationism, drastically reducing aid for Haiti and the overall US presence in this long troubled region just when it was needed the most. In it's vacuum stepped such strongmen as Rafael Trujillo.
Trujillo was far from a Freedomite or Actionist, but he saw many opportunities that aligning with the Confederacy could provide. By 1941 he had developed a reputation as a harsh dictator, brutally cracking down against any internal threats that popped up. In 1938, with help from members of the Confederate Sestapo, he purged his country's military and police ranks of any perceived enemies, effectively ending any possible internal threat to his rule. While this was ongoing Trujillo would develop a cult of personality around himself that, as one Northern newspaper put it, rivaled even Featherston's in pervasiveness and totality. All Dominican families were required, starting in 1936, to have a portrait of Trujillo in their homes, and starting not long after that decree the Dominican ruler would mandate that the country refer to him as "El Jefe" and not president, mirroring Featherston's informal nicknames "Sarge" and "Leader." All children were required to participate in various pro-Trujillo youth programs that indoctrinated youngsters into "proper" lines of thinking and even encouraged such behavior as turning family members in for "politically incorrect behavior." A special gang of secret police called "El 42" was created with assistance and training provided by Confederate and Mexican officials, who likewise planted seeds of Freedomite racial policy in the country's mindset.
Although brutal against his people, Trujillo was an ardent admirer of some of the Confederate conservationist efforts, and quickly attempted to pattern his country's environmental and social policies along those of Featherston's. Parkland was expanded, and the slash and burn technique of agriculture was likewise banned in an oddly controversial decree in 1939. Attempts at establishing better public hospitals and other works were also undertaken, often with considerable investment from various Entente members, and even some non-Entente members. The Dutch were quite active in terms of investments into the Dominican economy as late as May 1941, and generally pro-US Brazil also invested a considerable sum of cash into the country's burgeoning light industrial sector (mostly focused around textiles and cigar making).
It wouldn't be until 1941, however, that Trujillo would officially align the Dominican Republic with the CSA and make the fateful decision to enter the Second Great War on the side of the Entente in September of 1941 after the stunning success out of Ohio. Despite being a small and relatively backwater nation, the Dominican Republican had a decently sized and equipped army as a result of Confederate and Mexican investment, and this was a fact that the Confederates would take full advantage of come their November 1941 invasion of Haiti. Although a promoter of so-called "open doors immigration" (famously allowing Jews escaping from the Russian pogroms to seek asylum in Dominica against protests from France and Britain), Trujillo was an ardent proponent of the so-called "Antihaitionismo" - Anti-Haitianism. Really Featherston had no need to hold "discussions" concerning the "race question" with the Dominican leader for both he and his Dominican Party (the sole legal party in the country) were quick to blame Dominica's economic woes on the black Haitian refugees and immigrants that poured across the border in the wake of the economic depression. Initially the government policy towards them was rather light, being simple deportation of blacks caught illegally crossing the border, however this radicalized in the wake of the Freedomite takeover of the South. Soon a policy of outright segregation and extreme discrimination was implemented, and by 1941 many Haitians had found themselves locked in Dominican concentration camps.
The Dominican Republic would play a crucial role in the invasion of Haiti in late 1941, intervening after Trujillo had chalked up a series of recent border incidents as a casus belli to invade. As a result of their participation the Dominican Republic was allowed control over parts of the borderland, annexing much of it into the country by 1944. Afterwards things remained quiet as the Central Powers remained occupied fighting around Pittsburgh and the Rhineland, but that was soon to change. In early 1943 the US would destroy the Confederate pocket around Pittsburgh, and in return the South was in desperate need for more men. In March of 1943 a desperate Featherston turned to Trujillo to supply the South with two "volunteer" brigades promising to use them solely against black guerrillas in Mississippi and Alabama. Threatened with possible invasion from Haiti and moribund without Confederate aid, Trujillo reluctantly agreed, and sent the requested troops over by September of 1943. By then, however, the situation at the front had worsened considerably, and despite his promises otherwise, Featherston would order the Dominican troops to frontline service in February of 1944, much to the chagrin of Trujillo.
This feeling of resentment was further worsened by repeated failures on the Confederates' part to continue promised shipments of oil and other resources to the country, in particular promises of deliveries of TARs and stovepipes. Confederate-Dominican relations steadily deteriorated throughout early 1944, and finally, after the fall of Atlanta, Trujillo would declare his intention of seeking peace with the Central Powers. By now the Dominican Republic was a shell of it's former self. Cut off from German, American, Dutch and Brazilian investment the country's economy quickly stagnated and, starting in mid 1942, entered into full on recession. Food shortages and other material deficiencies plagued the country. It was hoped by many Dominican officials that annexing key Haitian territory would help alleviate these problems, but this proved fruitless as the Confederates demanded a large cut of the pie for themselves and went back on many of their wartime supply promises.
In May of 1944 Trujillo would officially send a secret request to the US Secretary of State through his Foreign Office to surrender to the Americans. Despite some calls amongst some Democrats about the possibility of potentially shattering Confederate foreign relations, the majority opinion remained staunchly opposed to anything but unconditional surrender of any Entente nation, something Trujillo still refused to commit to. Instead, to pressure the dictator into surrendering unconditionally, the US made public Trujillo's request for an armistice, humiliating the man and instantly isolating him from Featherston and his more radical supporters. This, combined with the US bombing raid against Ciudad Trujillo [Santo Domingo] on May 18, would result in the Dominican Coup of June 1, 1944. On June 1 several army and police officers, upset over the direction of the war and Trujillo's failure as a leader, entered the dictator's residence and arrested him, proclaiming an end to the Dominican Party dictatorship and agreeing to unconditional surrender to the United States. The Dominican Republic was thus the first Entente nation in North America to surrender.
This prompted immediate reaction from Featherston, who ordered an all out attack against the country from Haiti in retribution for the Dominicans' "treachery." On June 6, 1944 several battalions of Confederate and Nicaraguan troops assaulted Dominican positions west of the newly renamed Santo Domingo, threatening the city with capture. Before that could happen, however, US air raids against Port-au-Prince and other targets in Confederate occupied Haiti forced the Entente coalition to fall back, and, on July 14, the official surrender of the CSA to the USA brought an end to all fighting on the island of Hispaniola.
After the war Trujillo would be brought before US, Haitian, and Dominican courts for trial. In December of 1944 he was found guilty on numerous accounts of crimes against humanity, crimes against the peace, among others, and on January 11, 1945 he was executed by a three nation member execution team in newly liberated Nassau, Bahamas, USA. He was the first Entente head of state to be executed for actions during the Second Great War.
I love this "fanon" history!
It reminds a lot from Joshua Ben Ari's take on Trujillo on the FILLING IN THE FUTURE thread.
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I'll have to look at that thread again and see what I can come up with, too. I have mostly just questions with a few speculative fan ideas, but I am familiar with Mexican history and I like entertaining the idea of an Imperial Mexico that worked and continued to exist.