Oh! You mean like popular culture stuff or scenes from civilian life that would fit into Featherston's Confederacy? But taken from our shows and stuff?
Photos from Featherston's Confederacy/ TL-191
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Oh! You mean like popular culture stuff or scenes from civilian life that would fit into Featherston's Confederacy? But taken from our shows and stuff?
Royalist France: Charles XI comes to power, circa 1930s
^^^ Confederate journalist Wade Abernathy captures Royalist soldiers loyal to Charles XI in a photo as they march down the Champs Elysees in front of the Arc de Triomphe, 1932.
^^^ Once again Wade Abernathy accompanies Royalist soldiers into the countryside outside of Paris as they capture a cell of French socialists in the Loire Valley, 1932.
^^^ On the same day as the raid in the Loire, Royalist forces confiscated the personal items of many socialists. This picture, taken off the body of a socialist fighter killed in the raid, depicts a woman posing with a rifle. Journalist Wade Abernathy noted an inscription on the back of the photo while inspecting it - "My Wonderful Emily."
^^^ Confederate journalist Wade Abernathy captures Royalist soldiers loyal to Charles XI in a photo as they march down the Champs Elysees in front of the Arc de Triomphe, 1932.
^^^ Once again Wade Abernathy accompanies Royalist soldiers into the countryside outside of Paris as they capture a cell of French socialists in the Loire Valley, 1932.
^^^ On the same day as the raid in the Loire, Royalist forces confiscated the personal items of many socialists. This picture, taken off the body of a socialist fighter killed in the raid, depicts a woman posing with a rifle. Journalist Wade Abernathy noted an inscription on the back of the photo while inspecting it - "My Wonderful Emily."
On the Defense in Tennessee: Confederate Lines, circa 1943
^^^ Assistant Troop Leader (Corporal) John Vicks of the 45th Guards Regiment ties a miniature Freedom Party Flag to a tree while on a hillside in Tennessee. When asked about it by the photographer, Vicks responded by saying, "This hill is just a hill to the damn Yankees, a little ol' spot on a map. But to us - this is our land, our country. Every hill we hiked up with our family, every tree we climbed as kids, every river we swam in with our pals and sweethearts. And we're gonna like hounds outta hell to keep it all." This photo was later circulated throughout the Confederate press in several states in an attempt to boost moral at home. Assistant Troop Leader Vicks was later killed in action a few days after the photo was taken.
^^^ Assistant Troop Leader (Corporal) John Vicks of the 45th Guards Regiment ties a miniature Freedom Party Flag to a tree while on a hillside in Tennessee. When asked about it by the photographer, Vicks responded by saying, "This hill is just a hill to the damn Yankees, a little ol' spot on a map. But to us - this is our land, our country. Every hill we hiked up with our family, every tree we climbed as kids, every river we swam in with our pals and sweethearts. And we're gonna like hounds outta hell to keep it all." This photo was later circulated throughout the Confederate press in several states in an attempt to boost moral at home. Assistant Troop Leader Vicks was later killed in action a few days after the photo was taken.
Guts and Grit: The Battle for Tennessee, circa 1943
^^^ Yankee infantry move forward among the ruins of a small town in Tennessee blasted by artillery, 1943. Fighting was bitter in small areas such as this, with the local civilian population taking arms alongside Confederate soldiers and Freedom Party Guardsmen. The United States soldiers would have to fight for every town they ran across in Irving Morrel's drive to Chattanooga.
^^^ Corporal Timothy Hoskins of the Confederate Army's 15th Infantry Division sits with his daughter, Rachel, and fellow infantrymen among the ruins of his hometown in Tennessee. For the Confederate soldiers in this division, the fighting in this state took on a more personal meaning, and many soldiers fought fanatically. Confederates were finding themselves thrust into the front lines not far from their hometowns, some of which were either in the hands of the United States army or heavily contested.
^^^ Yankees paratroopers rush forward under intense mortar fire as they assault positions on the heights overlooking Chattanooga. Despite popular belief, in part due to war-time censorship and propaganda, the fight for this city and the heights surrounding it was a hard fought and bitter experience for the nascent paratrooper regiments of the United States.
^^^ Yankee paratroopers move cautiously among the brush and trees as they scale Lookout Mountain. With the Confederate dug into pillboxes and trenches scattered along the ridges, the paratroopers would have a hard fight ahead of them.
^^^ An unidentified Yankee private is photographed in a panicked state as one of his comrades attempts to reign him in. Scenes such as this were not an uncommon sight, but censorship departments in the United States tried their best to suppress images like this from getting out to the public. The fighting in Tennessee was especially brutal on both sides and soldiers in the United States army in this states were noted to have experienced severe cases of "battle fatigue" as the fighting went on.
^^^ Yankee infantry move forward among the ruins of a small town in Tennessee blasted by artillery, 1943. Fighting was bitter in small areas such as this, with the local civilian population taking arms alongside Confederate soldiers and Freedom Party Guardsmen. The United States soldiers would have to fight for every town they ran across in Irving Morrel's drive to Chattanooga.
^^^ Corporal Timothy Hoskins of the Confederate Army's 15th Infantry Division sits with his daughter, Rachel, and fellow infantrymen among the ruins of his hometown in Tennessee. For the Confederate soldiers in this division, the fighting in this state took on a more personal meaning, and many soldiers fought fanatically. Confederates were finding themselves thrust into the front lines not far from their hometowns, some of which were either in the hands of the United States army or heavily contested.
^^^ Yankees paratroopers rush forward under intense mortar fire as they assault positions on the heights overlooking Chattanooga. Despite popular belief, in part due to war-time censorship and propaganda, the fight for this city and the heights surrounding it was a hard fought and bitter experience for the nascent paratrooper regiments of the United States.
^^^ Yankee paratroopers move cautiously among the brush and trees as they scale Lookout Mountain. With the Confederate dug into pillboxes and trenches scattered along the ridges, the paratroopers would have a hard fight ahead of them.
^^^ An unidentified Yankee private is photographed in a panicked state as one of his comrades attempts to reign him in. Scenes such as this were not an uncommon sight, but censorship departments in the United States tried their best to suppress images like this from getting out to the public. The fighting in Tennessee was especially brutal on both sides and soldiers in the United States army in this states were noted to have experienced severe cases of "battle fatigue" as the fighting went on.
Images from a Confederate History Textbook: circa 1936
Passages about the Entente in history textbooks throughout the Confederacy, especially information regarding the Great War, tended to be saturated with political bias that tended to portray the Confederates allies in a more sympathetic light.
An unusually interesting topic to focus on for Confederate school teachers was the Russian Empire's own experience in the Great War against Germany as well as its own civil war, in which it too had to put down a massive communist/socialist uprising in the wake of its defeat by the Central Powers. School teachers often emphasized the "dangerous specter of socialism" to students and often paralleled it to the Confederacy's own experiences with uprisings by its black population, which were in part motivated by socialist teachings.
^^^ This image, taken from a Confederate history textbook on a section about the Russian Civil War, depicts Bolshevik and Loyalist forces clashing in and among a system of trenches in the Ukraine.
^^^ Another image taken from the same textbook depicts a dramatized close-quarters battle between Russian and German troops. It is said that this particular image in this issue of the textbook often confused Confederate students due to the German soldiers apparently closely resembling United States soldiers during the early months of the Great War. US soldiers at the beginning of 1914 adopted a black-colored pith helmet with a spike for headwear, along with a dark blue uniform. The helmet often depicted the eagle and crossed swords. It was said that it closely resembled the iconic German "pickelhaube".
Passages about the Entente in history textbooks throughout the Confederacy, especially information regarding the Great War, tended to be saturated with political bias that tended to portray the Confederates allies in a more sympathetic light.
An unusually interesting topic to focus on for Confederate school teachers was the Russian Empire's own experience in the Great War against Germany as well as its own civil war, in which it too had to put down a massive communist/socialist uprising in the wake of its defeat by the Central Powers. School teachers often emphasized the "dangerous specter of socialism" to students and often paralleled it to the Confederacy's own experiences with uprisings by its black population, which were in part motivated by socialist teachings.
^^^ This image, taken from a Confederate history textbook on a section about the Russian Civil War, depicts Bolshevik and Loyalist forces clashing in and among a system of trenches in the Ukraine.
^^^ Another image taken from the same textbook depicts a dramatized close-quarters battle between Russian and German troops. It is said that this particular image in this issue of the textbook often confused Confederate students due to the German soldiers apparently closely resembling United States soldiers during the early months of the Great War. US soldiers at the beginning of 1914 adopted a black-colored pith helmet with a spike for headwear, along with a dark blue uniform. The helmet often depicted the eagle and crossed swords. It was said that it closely resembled the iconic German "pickelhaube".
East Tennessee Unionists pose for a picture, 1943. When the War of Succession started East Tennessee was largely Union-minded to of attempting the ' East Tennessee Convention' to form a separate state that would remain part of the United States alike to West Virginia. This would fail, and the Unionist of the East would face harassment and prosecution for years to come, but Unionism would persistent. When the war came to Tennessee, many took to arms, and rose up against the Freedom Party Forces. Many would be rewarded and seen as heroes in the North, as well as saving blacks form the camps.
A bridge lit ablaze by Unionist forces. To aid Irving Morrel's invasion of the East, East Tennessean Unionist set about, among other acts of sabotage, burning railroad bridges across the region to weaken CS Army movements.
A group of women, either Pro-Confederate, or married to Freedom Party members, having their hair shave as punishment. All across the East, acts of violence and retribution against Confederates ran like wildfire as fervent Unionists attack and killed their neighbors and sometimes family. Knoxville would be a vocal point of these trouble times during and after the War.
Males was just rounded up, and shot, seen here as Unionists line Confederate solders, Freedom Party Guards, and Pro-CSA citizens against a wall and gun down in Huntsville. When told of the East Tennessean rebels, and they success, Jake Featherston would have reported to have gone into a rant, "Damn Knoxville! Damn Greeneville! Damn Huntsville! Damn Sevierville! Damn all of East Tenseness!"
A bridge lit ablaze by Unionist forces. To aid Irving Morrel's invasion of the East, East Tennessean Unionist set about, among other acts of sabotage, burning railroad bridges across the region to weaken CS Army movements.
A group of women, either Pro-Confederate, or married to Freedom Party members, having their hair shave as punishment. All across the East, acts of violence and retribution against Confederates ran like wildfire as fervent Unionists attack and killed their neighbors and sometimes family. Knoxville would be a vocal point of these trouble times during and after the War.
Males was just rounded up, and shot, seen here as Unionists line Confederate solders, Freedom Party Guards, and Pro-CSA citizens against a wall and gun down in Huntsville. When told of the East Tennessean rebels, and they success, Jake Featherston would have reported to have gone into a rant, "Damn Knoxville! Damn Greeneville! Damn Huntsville! Damn Sevierville! Damn all of East Tenseness!"
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I got'chu fam. How about some screen shots from "Road to Perdition" and "O Brother" to give a good feel for life in both the North and South?
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Americana: Photos of Life in the United States and Confederacy - circa 1929-1931
For a time in North America, there was a measure of "peace" between the two bitter rivals, even if it was a fragile one. Canada and Utah were under marshal law of course, and the whole of the South was in political chaos following their defeat in the Great War, but for most civilians just wanting to get by and make ends meet as the Great Depression set in hard for both nations, people looked to maintaining their lives and finding jobs rather than paying attention to news and events out of their control.
In these photos taken by National Geographic's own George Stiles and Bobby Leggett, viewers got a rare look at what life was like for each respective nation on either side of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Chicago, Illinois: 1931, The United States of America
^^^ The busy streets of Chicago swarm with cars on a cold afternoon day. People are dressed warmly as they go about their business. Both men witnessed many men carrying signs that listed their job experience and willingness to work.
^^^ Assistant photographer George Stiles walks below the pillars of a subway lines in the denser, seedier parts of the city. For the photo crew getting shots of Chicago's more scenic, prettier streets proved difficult as so many buildings and shops were closed due to the Depression.
^^^ Winter days in Chicago were harsh for the cameramen, with drivers paying little heed to what was in front of them. The cameramen made frequent use of the Irish bar pictured here, called "O'Neill's" to warm their spirits.
^^^ A student on a bike is photographed by Bobby Leggett as he makes his way through a crowd of steel workers on their way home from the factory. For many workers in this part of the Chicago keeping their jobs was an miracle in an of itself.
Satartia, Mississippi: The Confederate States of America, 1931
^^^ Traveling through the Confederate States proved something of an odyssey for the cameramen, frequently driving on rough unpaved roads, thick untamed forrests, and ultimately getting lost on several occasions just to find gas stations. George Stiles took the opportunity to take a picture of their car, which both men nicked name "Odysseus".
^^^ The cameraman at one point picked up a group of hitchhikers on their way to Satartia. The three men, named Dilbert, Johnny, and Edward, were unemployed men looking for work and were originally from Alabama. While stopped on the side of a road fixing a flat tire George Stiles took the opportunity to photograph their wayward companions for the last time before they hitched another ride.
^^^ With Satartia only seven miles away, the the cameramen stopped to get their bearings. At the crossroads Bobby Leggett sneaked a photograph of two Black boys carrying ice in hot sun. Both were barefoot and neither of them said hello, preferring to keep their heads down and avoiding eye contact almost out of fear.
^^^ Satartia Mississippi proved a lively enough place for the camera crew. A local mid-term election rally was taking place in honor of a challenger that sought to be elected. The rhetoric was passionate vengeful as it whipped up the crowd into a fever pitch. The cameramen quickly found it it was an election rally for a Freedom Party member.
(1) Yep, THAT Kim-Jong-Il, just wasn't born in the same spot.
(2) I imagined this as less like the Pacific Front of WW2, and more like the Sino-Soviet Border Wars, as it lasts longer and never escalates beyond skirmishes (albiet violent ones) over disputed islands. Its considered so obscure that many History classes in Europe don't even teach about it.
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I am not a fan of the idea that there would have been a "pacific war" between the U.S.A and the Empire of Japan during the 1930's. While I still think that Japan would have been conquering as much territory as possible during that time, I find it much more believable for them to try attack the Sandwich Islands and try to take them over, instead of attacking Los Angeles. Instead of that triggering a war, I view it as more of a diplomatic crisis that causes Philadelphia to negotiate a truce that prevents them from going to war as long as they both mind each other's business. Perhaps this truce might influence Japan's decision to fight against Russia and Britain in the Pacific starting in 1943?
However, I am a fan of the idea that there is a type of cold war between the two nations after the Second Great War. While I technically view it as a "Triple Frozen Conflict" between U.S.A, Japan, and Germany, there's more aggression between the first two than with Germany, unless the circumstances change. For example, there could be a temporary partnership between the two Empires of Germany and Japan one day, then the next day, USA and Germany are together fighting for a common cause against Japan, and later some kind of small alliance between Japan and USA. The world is basically carved into three slices of influence: The American Slice belongs to the USA, The Afro-European Slice belongs to Germany, and the Asian Slice belongs to Japan.
Something like that.
Oh, and I find the idea of Kim Jong-Il being an ordinary guy with a decent career as a filmmaker in TL-191 pleasantly funny.
Maybe Anti-Colonialist Rhetoric back in the Socialist-leaning USA could lead to a decline in German-American Relations due to stuff going on in Africa?
It is pure speculation, but I've though about Africa being made up either German colonies or newly independent nations and that the USA supports (ironically) Anti-Colonial sentiment in the continent while supporting the new countries. This makes Germany really mad about the US meddling in their slice and try to counteract by bringing up the USA's historic failure in race relations between Whites and Blacks in North America. This line of thinking is a way to convince the people of Africa that it is better to be a friend of Germany than USA because at least the former didn't have a long history of trying to kill them and view them as less than human.
I suppose that disagreements between USA and Germany will cause both of them to fund nations that support their ideas and go into military conflict without the two nations going into direct war.
It be more of a 'Great Game Part 2' so to speak then a Cold War, as the three superpowers (The Union, the German Empire, and Empire of Japan) lacks ideological standoffs (So to speak.) and more of fighting over spheres of influence around the world. America would be all about African and Asian independence (With Liberia as a jumping off point.) as well as fighting racism. German treated their colonies pretty well (Mostly.) to the point of them in OTL wanted to stay with Germans. (And the standard of living all drop in the former German Colonies after World War 1 when they fell under British and Freach control.)
Japan...is well Japan. Australia and New Zealand would be force to look to America since the UK been first failed to keep Japan in check, and then been beaten by the Germans. (With THREE Atomic Bombs dropped on them.)
Kim Jong Il was actually a movie nut wasn't he! Kidnaps a director and actress just to make movies that he wanted made. Now, that is a god bit of alternate history! Instead of being the leader of a communist hermit kingdom he'd something the Orson Welles of Korea - in attitude I mean, like he thinks he's a big deal, but all he makes is mediocre movies with like one decent one under his belt and he gets crappy reviews.
While Japan, the newly reformed United States, and Germany would no doubt be the top dogs on the world stage, I feel that the other major powers of Russia and Great Britain are still a factor despite their defeat. Japan and the United States may definitely not like each other, but alliances and truces out of necessity to keep in check another power? Yeah, I can see that, especially with Russia.
Why Russia? Well, just as example from in the books, in the aftermath of the Second Great War in 1944, it was said that the United States was extreme worried that Confederate scientists like Fitz-Belmont would defect to the Russians and so he was "liquidated". Another factor playing into US anxiety over Russia was the fact that Alaska was still part of the Russian Empire and Occupied Canada now shared a border with a confirmed enemy. From 1941-1944 neither side was willing open up a front in Alaska, but post-war - Alaska may prove to be a flashpoint, especially since Russia was known to be striving for the atom bomb. As frozen and out of the way Alaska is, it would still be a jumping off point point for a few bombing raids, putting the United States and her territories in Canada in striking distance. With Japan already signing a separate truce with the US during the Second Great War in 1943-1944 and with Japan already attacking Russia by 1944 a temporary alliance between the US and Japan is possible, at least over viewing the Russians as a common enemy.
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German Chancellor Dieter Trumbauer meeting with American President Walt Romney at the Paris Summit in 2017. Both leaders are considered very controversial in their home countries, with Romney having been elected in 2012 and been compared to Jake Featherston by many due to conflicts with Latin Liberation Front (LLF) Cells in Cuba as well as heavily centralizing the Government.
Trumbauer, on the other hand, was recently elected and is disliked for his hostility towards Socialists and his supposed Monarchist additude, With many comparing him to King Charles Xi, and many people believing that he will make the Kaiser head of state or declare himself Kaiser. In this particular photo, he lacks his famous Kaiser Bill Moustache that he sported during the Chancellor Elections, as he had it shaved for reasons unknown at this point in time.
(Was originally gonna use George Bush instead of Romney, but realized that Texas was independent in TL 191, So I will find another role for G-Dawg)
Ambassador Kennedy (appointed by Romney) in the Empire of Japan shaking hands with Japanese Minister Shinzo Kurosa. One of President Romneys greatest achievements so far, according to his supporters and even some of his detractors, is Heavily Thawing the relations between the United States and the Empire of Japan. Although some accuse Romney of being a bit "too friendly" to Japan, some even conspiracy theorists even accusing him of being a Japanese Plant.
Modern Day Terrorist Organizations
Latin Liberation Front
The Latin Liberation Front is a Terrorist Organization in Latin America that the United States has been fighting since the 1980s. The LLF are known for their brutality to POWs and their tendency to perform Human Sacrifice. It has been confirmed that the Leadership of the LLF holds strong Pagan beliefs, mainly Aztec-lite. Initially a problem for Mexico before the United States was forced to intervene, they are now believed to be falling into decline, but there are still cells all over South America, with Cuba being a particular problem for the Union (Because, you know, its a state)
World Socialist Alliance
The most infamous as of late. The World Socialist Alliance, more commonly known as the "Red Front," is one of the largest terror organizations of modern history. The Red Front has its largest base in South America, even holding government power in Venezuela for a long time, and were infamous for their sheer brutality. The South American Cells are also very jingoistic, as they have been known for killing anyone who wasn't Dark-skinned enough, due to them being "Untrustworthy," even going as far as killing people with glasses, as glasses were a sign of literacy. The Most infamous move in the 21st century by the Red Front was the Burning of the Reichstag on September 11th of 2001, resulting in the Germans going on a warpath in South America, much to the anger of the United States. The warpath was deemed over after the mastermind behind the attacks was killed in South Africa (showing how far their reach was).
The Red Front is particularly infamous in Japan as of the new 10s. In 2010, the Red Front's Branch in the Phillipines (Picture above) launched an attack on a Military Parade in Kyoto, killing hundreds, along with several simultaneous attacks on the home islands. After Determining that the attacks were coordinated from the Phillippines, the Japanese would clamp down on the region, showing extreme brutality on the people there. At this point, the Red Front has hijacked the Filipino Independence Movement, and seek a Socialist Phillippines independent from Japan.
Overall, the Red Front's Main goal is stated to be a "World Socialist Republic," with the first goal being the destruction of the Worlds Imperial Powers of Germany, Japan, and the United States, and with the collapse of those nations, Socialism will rule.
Organizations I didn't cover at the moment:
Latin Liberation Front
The Latin Liberation Front is a Terrorist Organization in Latin America that the United States has been fighting since the 1980s. The LLF are known for their brutality to POWs and their tendency to perform Human Sacrifice. It has been confirmed that the Leadership of the LLF holds strong Pagan beliefs, mainly Aztec-lite. Initially a problem for Mexico before the United States was forced to intervene, they are now believed to be falling into decline, but there are still cells all over South America, with Cuba being a particular problem for the Union (Because, you know, its a state)
World Socialist Alliance
The most infamous as of late. The World Socialist Alliance, more commonly known as the "Red Front," is one of the largest terror organizations of modern history. The Red Front has its largest base in South America, even holding government power in Venezuela for a long time, and were infamous for their sheer brutality. The South American Cells are also very jingoistic, as they have been known for killing anyone who wasn't Dark-skinned enough, due to them being "Untrustworthy," even going as far as killing people with glasses, as glasses were a sign of literacy. The Most infamous move in the 21st century by the Red Front was the Burning of the Reichstag on September 11th of 2001, resulting in the Germans going on a warpath in South America, much to the anger of the United States. The warpath was deemed over after the mastermind behind the attacks was killed in South Africa (showing how far their reach was).
The Red Front is particularly infamous in Japan as of the new 10s. In 2010, the Red Front's Branch in the Phillipines (Picture above) launched an attack on a Military Parade in Kyoto, killing hundreds, along with several simultaneous attacks on the home islands. After Determining that the attacks were coordinated from the Phillippines, the Japanese would clamp down on the region, showing extreme brutality on the people there. At this point, the Red Front has hijacked the Filipino Independence Movement, and seek a Socialist Phillippines independent from Japan.
Overall, the Red Front's Main goal is stated to be a "World Socialist Republic," with the first goal being the destruction of the Worlds Imperial Powers of Germany, Japan, and the United States, and with the collapse of those nations, Socialism will rule.
Mormon organizations in America
Khmer Rogue (Hijacked by the Red Front)