Islamic calpihates mustn t crowned a woman to the throne.
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Islamic calpihates mustn t crowned a woman to the throne.
It is in a universe where Turkey as the leader of Islam decides to step up its game and drastically liberalize. Moreover, the Ottomans win the German-Ottoman Cold War after the Central Powers win WWI.
Interesting! I didn't even know about Ayutthaya until this, definitely curious on how it develops in the decades that follow. Though I feel like it will be quite as democratic as the more progressive nations of Europe.Fire in the North XV
Asia
Painting of the Royal Barge Procession in the Kingdom of Ayutthaya, during the reign of King Thai Sa c. 1713, shortly after the new Swedish embassy arrived in Ayutthaya.
While those Swedish up-timers who found themselves in positions of power argued strongly against the Kingdom - and later the Union - playing the colonial game, they did see the benefits in developing Swedish influence and trade overseas, and as such would work towards that end, using up-time historical knowledge to assist. Indeed, this approach would appeal to more up-timers, as in their eyes, it would see many peoples avoiding a colonial fate.
The greatest success that Sweden enjoyed in this area was with the Kingdom of Ayutthaya. King Thai Sa would seize eagerly upon historical records of his realm's future, and would work to avert certain looming disasters (the succession struggle among his three sons) while also investing in building up the kingdom. He would buy modern weapons from Sweden in return for various trading concessions and access to resources within Ayutthaya, as well as an agreement to assist Sweden against colonies and vassals held by enemies of Sweden in Asia.
Under King Thai Sa, followed by King Aphai who proved to be an even more able monarch who learned even more avidly from the up-timers, Ayutthaya would consolidate power and begin a long period of growth, as seen most obviously in their victory over Vietnam in a war between 1717 and 1718, and the securing of Cambodia as a vassal of Ayutthaya. Ultimately, Ayutthaya - together with a small Swedish naval force - would fight in the Three Years' War, defeating Dutch forces on the Malay Peninsula and East India Company troops to add Southern Burma to its sphere of influence.
That and I imagine that selling weapons to non European nations is a big no no amongst the courts of Europe.
Figures Japan would be able to pull off a similar modernization of OTL and it does make sense it would be slower too. That and it looks like we've got a similar situation to Saipan here though I'm not sure how catholic the locals are at this piont, which might spark some issues later on.
Shinsengumi troops of the Tokugawa Shogunate c. 1738.
Japan would receive its enticement into the modern world courtesy of the Dutch. Fearful of embryonic Swedish influence in South-East Asia, as well as their traditional Spanish and British rivals near their sphere of influence, the Dutch would approach the Tokugawa Shogunate via their trade legation in Dejima. They would provide the Shogunate with up-time information on Japan's possible future, together with more advanced weapons, in exchange for the Shogunate agreeing to aid them in defending the Dutch East Indies and similar holdings in the event of conflict.
Following a period of internal 'house-cleaning', the Tokugawa Shogunate would gradually modernise: not as quickly as their up-time equivalents might have, but still with alacrity. Part of this was the creation of the Shinsengumi, modelled after an organisation that would have been founded in another world's 19th century...but far bigger. Where their other-worldly prototype would have been a small corps, the Shinsengumi were an army, ultimately rising to over forty thousand souls. Though given the status of samurai, they allowed men from non-samurai classes to join and thus gain status, as well as providing a home for second sons and ronin. Moreover, the Shinsengumi would be first in line for modern firearms and any other up-time inspired weaponry and vehicles that Japan managed to buy or ultimately manufacture...thus proving a handy counterweight to ambitious samurai leaders as well, if necessary.
The Shinsengumi would take the lead in Japan's efforts in the Three Years' War, forming the vanguard of the army sent to invade the Spanish Philippines from the north while Dutch East India Company forces landed on the southernmost islands. In the aftermath of the war, Japan would claim Luzon, Mindoro and Palawan, creating new domains on the islands for samurai who distinguished themselves in the conflict and shipping merchants and peasants over to fill them, while the Dutch would prop up various local rulers on the other islands.
Nicely done! It looks like we got the first of this world's "Macau" styled cities. Wonder if we'll be seeing some more similar cities appearing by Sweden's rivals. I'm kinda hoping that a Roanapur styled city might appear, that and I imagine that the colonial powers might be focused on trying to increase the European/non-local population of any Hong Kong/Macau city that might form, simply to reduce the ties to any local government or nation.
Malacca, c. 1764. Following the Three Years' War, multiple Malay sultanates would become vassals to the Kingdom of Ayutthaya, while the Swedish would be granted what used to be Dutch Malacca. Technically, it was ceded to the Sultanate of Johor but Sweden - and later the Northern Commonwealth - leased the territory for a century, paying the Sultan a large lump sum of money and agreeing to assist in the modernisation of Johor - this having been the lure to attract Johor to switch sides away from the Dutch during the Three Years' War.
Malacca would become a major trade hub, as Swedish, French and other traders moved in. The Swedish administration would see the city hugely developed, as seen by the electric lighting in the photograph.
Photo General JT Thomas Beauregard the last “living” Civil General. Born Jonathan Tyler Beauregard to a rich sourthern family. JT would spend his young life in school where he would take to quickly. After school JT would be accepted into West Point in 1852, JT would graduate at the top of his class before returning home after the death of his father to look after his family and their large Mississippi Planation.
(JT with his young daughter Abby)
Originally opposed to session for economic reason as well as the for sight to see that the agrarian south could not win against the union in open combat. Beauregard was a proponent of the slow faze out of slaves and the industrialization of thee south, but when war was declared he was quickly forced to join it as a Confederate General. JT would never see his family again. Shortly after the end of the war Beauregard would be ambush by vampires managing to kill them only to be infected by one out of spite.
Over the next course serval decades he would wonder the earth drifting from one place to the other until the great revelation of 1953 when he would come back into the spot light after publishing a book called “Behind Iron Sight” describing his life and after the war. He would dedicate his after life to helping vampire American veteran and would help count the National Vampire Rights Association NVRA in 1960.
Hmmmm...may have to feature that later
Yeah, it was an interesting place for sure! And it'll have quite the different historical trajectory now... Yeah, it's...not the most enlightened of regimes, though it could develop, as up-time ideas percolate...
It becomes a major no-no... Initially, it's not something that's much considered. Then Ayutthaya starts getting some weapons as well as steam tech and a few other bits and pieces, to cement trade with Sweden. This alarms the Dutch East India Company, who start spearheading their country's efforts to help turn Japan into an ally so they have a local power who'll come and help if Ayutthaya tries to take the East Indies away... which alarms other people like the British East India Company... After this, eventually the European courts reach a 'gentleman's agreement' not to sell weapons to non-European nations unless they already have a comparable level of tech. But by that stage, Ayutthaya and Japan are already starting to modernise, and they're not bound by that agreement...
Oh, it's slower, especially thanks to the persistence of the Shogunate and the samurai as a class. But yeah, there's a definite drive to modernise...especially since the Shogunate has no desire to be replaced or for Japan to have the problems that are recounted in the up-time histories the Dutch show them.
Yeah, the division of the Philippines may create some interesting results...
Thanks! And yes, yes it is.
There very well may be more...
if the Philippines get uptime knowledge of there history, it going to make all those philippine nationalist groups of otl look tame by comparison.
I can see some up-time film buffs doing some interesting things with their cellphone cameras.Hmmmm...may have to feature that later
Islamic Caliphates aren't liberalized their throne rules.but maybe stretching the cloth laws and legalized the live without hijab.Look to the Saudi Caliphate.they're streched the laws with special efforts of Salman.
Turks are not Saudis, and Turks took over Arabia in this world and won the Cold War against Germany.
I can think that she causes a lot of Controversy in the Ummah. How did she manage to stay in power?
My guess is that the Islamic world in general and the Ottoman Empire in particular is a lot more rich, powerful etc. than OTL. When good times are here, people don’t like to rock the boat.
Tree Of Liberty
Heavy rebel shelling of the British position during the battle of York Town. After a long war in the American colonies as well as growing rebellions in India and Ireland mixed with a nest economic collapse collapse and calls for peace back home. The British empire decided that it would be easier to lose a part of empire rather than see all of it go up into flames.
Patriots advanced towards York Town after a British pull out of the local area.
A loyalist militia man stands by as loyalist refugees heads to the few British control city after the battle of York Town.
Heavy rebel shelling of the British position during the battle of York Town. After a long war in the American colonies as well as growing rebellions in India and Ireland mixed with a nest economic collapse collapse and calls for peace back home. The British empire decided that it would be easier to lose a part of empire rather than see all of it go up into flames.
Patriots advanced towards York Town after a British pull out of the local area.
A loyalist militia man stands by as loyalist refugees heads to the few British control city after the battle of York Town.
Wait you thought the TL was over? Come now old sports this is just the beginning, get ready for the revolutionary war part 2 the French boogaloo
Kuvayı Milliye (National Forces) Soldiers Captured A Greek Base In Afyon.Circa 1960s.
Blood Rights:
Link:https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/blood-rights-the-vampiric-right-movement.468831/
James Dean during his time playing fan favorite Luke in the popular show “Buffy The Vampire”. Luke arch from much loved bad boy to blood red junky with his finale episode season 8 episode ten relapse killing him off via overdose won multi awards.
Two of the four member rock rap group Third Eye pyramid during a photo shoot.
Republic Of South Japan troops move in to stop anti American rioting 1970.
Japanese Home Army faces off with South Japanese troops after taking a building during the rebellion 1952.
Uday Hussein shortly before the third gulf war.
North Japanese military parade 2019
A Ray Band ad showing to day walkers enjoying their after life.
Marylin Monroe posing for and after for flavored donated human blood.
Link:https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/blood-rights-the-vampiric-right-movement.468831/
James Dean during his time playing fan favorite Luke in the popular show “Buffy The Vampire”. Luke arch from much loved bad boy to blood red junky with his finale episode season 8 episode ten relapse killing him off via overdose won multi awards.
Two of the four member rock rap group Third Eye pyramid during a photo shoot.
Republic Of South Japan troops move in to stop anti American rioting 1970.
Japanese Home Army faces off with South Japanese troops after taking a building during the rebellion 1952.
Uday Hussein shortly before the third gulf war.
North Japanese military parade 2019
A Ray Band ad showing to day walkers enjoying their after life.
Marylin Monroe posing for and after for flavored donated human blood.
So an idea for a new setting here (don't worry I'll continue Land of Confusion: Genesis) about a decopunk fantasy city in the South Pacific. First settled by dutch explorers, followed by the Portuguese before the British took it over in the Napoleonic Wars.
Think Skullgirls meets the Big O meets JoJo.
How does it sound?
Think Skullgirls meets the Big O meets JoJo.
How does it sound?
Fire in the North XVI
Figures from the Three Years' War
Youthful photograph of future Field Marshal Henrik Andersson (born 1708). The son of an up-time military officer and a down-time noblewoman, he would join the military at a young age, gaining a commission as an officer in the Life Regiment Hussars. While he began training as a cavalry officer, he would be one of the first to train on the new steam-tanks, and would serve commanding a small unit of the vehicles during the Second Russian War. He would distinguish himself from an early stage of his career, managing to use his unit to move ahead of his lines, around a larger Russian force, and strike them from their flanks unexpectedly. This would see his promotion, though it would be noticed at the time that his action was reckless in the extreme and - had one thing gone wrong - could have seen his forces lost.
This style - rapid, often reckless manoeuvre warfare - would characterise his combat style for the rest of the conflict, and saw him rise quite rapidly, gaining a reputation as an innovative commander. By war's end, he had gained the rank of Major at quite a young age, and had secured his position within the military.
By 1750, he had achieved the rank of Colonel, and was part of the Franco-Swedish force deployed to the Canadas. He and the tank forces under his command played a key role in the Battle of the Ottawa River, which saw his star rise considerably. However, his aggressive tendencies nearly saw him get killed and saw his forces suffer losses during an attempted attack into the Pennsylvania Colony which was repelled by British and Colonial forces, together with native auxiliaries. This would cause some friction among the Swedish military command, as despite the recommendations of the senior officers in the field, this loss would be quietly brushed over, with his previous heroism lauded instead - at the time, Sweden's previous losses in the Germanies meant that they were keen to promote victories. In the end, the event would lead to Andersson becoming more measured and careful, and he would work to make amends to the families of those soldiers who had died in Pennsylvania.
Field Marshal Graf Lothar von Seidlitz of the Royal Prussian Army. Born five years prior to the Displacement, research using up-time archives suggests that in the other world he would have died at age 12, leaving no impact on history whatsoever save for some brief mention in family trees of less-prominent Prussian nobility. However, in this world, he would be greatly intrigued by the Displacement, and would avidly study whatever he could learn about the world Västerås had come from.
He would join the Royal Prussian Army at eighteen, gaining a commission as an officer of Hussars. He would become part of a clique of younger officers who actively drove for the Prussian military to modernise aggressively, to meet what they termed the 'rising forces of a changing world'. Their activism would ultimately reach the ears of the royal court, and would result in von Seidlitz and a number of other young officers being sent to Västerås to pursue university studies in the city. He would avidly observe and record everything that he saw, and would throw himself into his studies, in particular engineering and the sciences. Moreover, while there were aspects of the future city that he disapproved of, he also found a great deal of practical interest.
Upon returning to Prussia, he would - like a number of eager younger officers - switch from horses to the new Eisenpferd war-machines, and would make his name with them in the Silesian War of 1721-1723. Indeed, so at home with them would he become, that he would ultimately make a number of recommendations as to their possible improvement.
By the time of the Three Years' War, he had managed to attain the rank of full General, and was granted overall command of the Prussian forces sent to invade Hanover. While many Prussian officers had been worried at the prospect of facing the Swedish and the Union of Kalmar, von Seidlitz was of the opinion that the technological advantage possessed by Sweden had made them grow complacent, and devised tactics that would take advantage of this complacency. He was ultimately proven correct, winning a series of victories culminating in the Battle of Lüneberg where he defeated a major combined Kalmar-Hanoverian force, effectively ending resistance within the region and securing Northern Germany for Prussia. For his actions, he was made Field Marshal and given the title Prince of Wahlstatt by King Frederick II himself.
In later life, he would be made Chancellor, where he would work to continue to strengthen the existing ties between the Kingdoms of Prussia and Britain, smoothing the way for the Union under Wilhelm I.
Nagase Samon, Taishu (Grand Governor) of Luzon, photographed together with his wife Kaede in a relaxed domestic setting. Originally from a minor samurai family in rural Bungo Province, he joined the Shinsengumi corps in order to attempt to gain greater opportunity for himself and his family. Being willing to adapt to new ways of waging war, as well as proving to be quick to grasp the kind of tactics that new weapons required, he would rise quickly through the ranks of the still-growing Shinsengumi, gaining status for himself and for his family, leading to an increase in their small domain and to favourable marriages for his younger brother and sister, though he would remain single at the time.
By 1750, he was considered one of the best officers within the Shinsengumi, and thus was given command of the force the corps committed to the invasion of the Spanish Philippines. He would carry out this duty effectively...and owing to a number of less-than-sound decisions made by the commanders of the forces committed by various lords to the conflict, ended up having effective command over the entire invasion. He would gain sufficient recognition in Edo that the Shogun determined on rewarding him by appointing him governor of Japan's new territory in Luzon. It would also be at this time that Nagase married.
Upon becoming Taishu, Nagase apportioned Luzon out into multiple han, which he awarded primarily to retiring Shinsengumi, former ronin or minor samurai like his family had been, thus leading to 'new men' being highly influential in the governance of the territory...new men who would owe their preferment to him, not to any of the daimyo on the Home Islands. He also would establish a permanent militia force from among both ethnic Japanese peasantry and the island's native population, and would work to engage the natives in Japanese rule of the island by elevating certain of their leaders to equivalent status to samurai, engaging in major infrastructural development, and a rough policy of religious toleration. However, he would also act with great vigour against any attempts to disrupt Japanese rule over the island.
He died in 1775, fighting against Malay pirates. His position as Taishu would be taken up by his son, Benzo.
Figures from the Three Years' War
Youthful photograph of future Field Marshal Henrik Andersson (born 1708). The son of an up-time military officer and a down-time noblewoman, he would join the military at a young age, gaining a commission as an officer in the Life Regiment Hussars. While he began training as a cavalry officer, he would be one of the first to train on the new steam-tanks, and would serve commanding a small unit of the vehicles during the Second Russian War. He would distinguish himself from an early stage of his career, managing to use his unit to move ahead of his lines, around a larger Russian force, and strike them from their flanks unexpectedly. This would see his promotion, though it would be noticed at the time that his action was reckless in the extreme and - had one thing gone wrong - could have seen his forces lost.
This style - rapid, often reckless manoeuvre warfare - would characterise his combat style for the rest of the conflict, and saw him rise quite rapidly, gaining a reputation as an innovative commander. By war's end, he had gained the rank of Major at quite a young age, and had secured his position within the military.
By 1750, he had achieved the rank of Colonel, and was part of the Franco-Swedish force deployed to the Canadas. He and the tank forces under his command played a key role in the Battle of the Ottawa River, which saw his star rise considerably. However, his aggressive tendencies nearly saw him get killed and saw his forces suffer losses during an attempted attack into the Pennsylvania Colony which was repelled by British and Colonial forces, together with native auxiliaries. This would cause some friction among the Swedish military command, as despite the recommendations of the senior officers in the field, this loss would be quietly brushed over, with his previous heroism lauded instead - at the time, Sweden's previous losses in the Germanies meant that they were keen to promote victories. In the end, the event would lead to Andersson becoming more measured and careful, and he would work to make amends to the families of those soldiers who had died in Pennsylvania.
Field Marshal Graf Lothar von Seidlitz of the Royal Prussian Army. Born five years prior to the Displacement, research using up-time archives suggests that in the other world he would have died at age 12, leaving no impact on history whatsoever save for some brief mention in family trees of less-prominent Prussian nobility. However, in this world, he would be greatly intrigued by the Displacement, and would avidly study whatever he could learn about the world Västerås had come from.
He would join the Royal Prussian Army at eighteen, gaining a commission as an officer of Hussars. He would become part of a clique of younger officers who actively drove for the Prussian military to modernise aggressively, to meet what they termed the 'rising forces of a changing world'. Their activism would ultimately reach the ears of the royal court, and would result in von Seidlitz and a number of other young officers being sent to Västerås to pursue university studies in the city. He would avidly observe and record everything that he saw, and would throw himself into his studies, in particular engineering and the sciences. Moreover, while there were aspects of the future city that he disapproved of, he also found a great deal of practical interest.
Upon returning to Prussia, he would - like a number of eager younger officers - switch from horses to the new Eisenpferd war-machines, and would make his name with them in the Silesian War of 1721-1723. Indeed, so at home with them would he become, that he would ultimately make a number of recommendations as to their possible improvement.
By the time of the Three Years' War, he had managed to attain the rank of full General, and was granted overall command of the Prussian forces sent to invade Hanover. While many Prussian officers had been worried at the prospect of facing the Swedish and the Union of Kalmar, von Seidlitz was of the opinion that the technological advantage possessed by Sweden had made them grow complacent, and devised tactics that would take advantage of this complacency. He was ultimately proven correct, winning a series of victories culminating in the Battle of Lüneberg where he defeated a major combined Kalmar-Hanoverian force, effectively ending resistance within the region and securing Northern Germany for Prussia. For his actions, he was made Field Marshal and given the title Prince of Wahlstatt by King Frederick II himself.
In later life, he would be made Chancellor, where he would work to continue to strengthen the existing ties between the Kingdoms of Prussia and Britain, smoothing the way for the Union under Wilhelm I.
Nagase Samon, Taishu (Grand Governor) of Luzon, photographed together with his wife Kaede in a relaxed domestic setting. Originally from a minor samurai family in rural Bungo Province, he joined the Shinsengumi corps in order to attempt to gain greater opportunity for himself and his family. Being willing to adapt to new ways of waging war, as well as proving to be quick to grasp the kind of tactics that new weapons required, he would rise quickly through the ranks of the still-growing Shinsengumi, gaining status for himself and for his family, leading to an increase in their small domain and to favourable marriages for his younger brother and sister, though he would remain single at the time.
By 1750, he was considered one of the best officers within the Shinsengumi, and thus was given command of the force the corps committed to the invasion of the Spanish Philippines. He would carry out this duty effectively...and owing to a number of less-than-sound decisions made by the commanders of the forces committed by various lords to the conflict, ended up having effective command over the entire invasion. He would gain sufficient recognition in Edo that the Shogun determined on rewarding him by appointing him governor of Japan's new territory in Luzon. It would also be at this time that Nagase married.
Upon becoming Taishu, Nagase apportioned Luzon out into multiple han, which he awarded primarily to retiring Shinsengumi, former ronin or minor samurai like his family had been, thus leading to 'new men' being highly influential in the governance of the territory...new men who would owe their preferment to him, not to any of the daimyo on the Home Islands. He also would establish a permanent militia force from among both ethnic Japanese peasantry and the island's native population, and would work to engage the natives in Japanese rule of the island by elevating certain of their leaders to equivalent status to samurai, engaging in major infrastructural development, and a rough policy of religious toleration. However, he would also act with great vigour against any attempts to disrupt Japanese rule over the island.
He died in 1775, fighting against Malay pirates. His position as Taishu would be taken up by his son, Benzo.
Novo Coimbra
First discovered by Portuguese explorer Martim Afonso de Melo in 1526 the De Melo Islands would ironically be settled by the Dutch in 1602 during the Eighty Years. The first Europe noting that island off of New Guinea was particularly suited for the growth of spices, alongside the pre existing pearl farming industry.
Dutch rule would however be shored lived with the Portuguese retaking the islands in 1633 during the Dutch-Portugese War of 1602-1663. With the pre existing capital being renamed Novo Coimbra, after its mother city in the homeland. Soon followed by the arrival of a new influx of Portuguese settlers, many of whom were veterans of the wars of Europe. Displacing both the previous Dutch settlers and the islands native population, as various Dutch families traveled further into the interior of the islands, sparking the local Malay revolt of 1642-44. Which was subsequently crushed at the hands of Portuguese colonial troops and indigenous allied tribes, though with strict regulations as to where the local Dutch could settle being implaced afterwards, for sparking the rebellion. With the De Melo Islands continuing to see a small but steady stream of immigration from the mother country for the next hundred and sixty years, being a popular center of trade in the region.
The Islands would eventually fall under the hands of British control during the Napoleonic Wars. With the new governorship of Lord Alexander Bentinck II seeing concentrated efforts to expand infrastructure and improving education on islands up until his death in 1838. Something that would remain in place with later governorship's over the following decades of the 19th century. As the islands saw a new influx of immigrants from the British Isles often siphoned off from the colonial efforts of Australia and New Zealand, alongside Chinese and Indian laborers. To support the growing industry's of the Islands and to reduce the possibility of a large scale Portuguese backed revolt. Becoming a thriving modern territory of the British Empire by the dawn of the twentieth century with the capital of Novo Coimbra sporting all the amenities of a major European city.
First discovered by Portuguese explorer Martim Afonso de Melo in 1526 the De Melo Islands would ironically be settled by the Dutch in 1602 during the Eighty Years. The first Europe noting that island off of New Guinea was particularly suited for the growth of spices, alongside the pre existing pearl farming industry.
Dutch rule would however be shored lived with the Portuguese retaking the islands in 1633 during the Dutch-Portugese War of 1602-1663. With the pre existing capital being renamed Novo Coimbra, after its mother city in the homeland. Soon followed by the arrival of a new influx of Portuguese settlers, many of whom were veterans of the wars of Europe. Displacing both the previous Dutch settlers and the islands native population, as various Dutch families traveled further into the interior of the islands, sparking the local Malay revolt of 1642-44. Which was subsequently crushed at the hands of Portuguese colonial troops and indigenous allied tribes, though with strict regulations as to where the local Dutch could settle being implaced afterwards, for sparking the rebellion. With the De Melo Islands continuing to see a small but steady stream of immigration from the mother country for the next hundred and sixty years, being a popular center of trade in the region.
The Islands would eventually fall under the hands of British control during the Napoleonic Wars. With the new governorship of Lord Alexander Bentinck II seeing concentrated efforts to expand infrastructure and improving education on islands up until his death in 1838. Something that would remain in place with later governorship's over the following decades of the 19th century. As the islands saw a new influx of immigrants from the British Isles often siphoned off from the colonial efforts of Australia and New Zealand, alongside Chinese and Indian laborers. To support the growing industry's of the Islands and to reduce the possibility of a large scale Portuguese backed revolt. Becoming a thriving modern territory of the British Empire by the dawn of the twentieth century with the capital of Novo Coimbra sporting all the amenities of a major European city.