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Krall

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Help. Why do these borders look so horrible and how can I fix them?

They look so horrible because they're just random curves; they're not logical or detailed. Try drawing borders roughly along where rivers are, or around mountainous regions, or along the ridges of mountains, or around the watersheds of rivers as starting points. Straight lines are also generally acceptable, but too many straight borders just looks boring.

If I were you I'd find a different basemap, too. That one's too large to fit entirely on a computer screen, and the borders are thick and are low quality as a result.
 
They look so horrible because they're just random curves; they're not logical or detailed. Try drawing borders roughly along where rivers are, or around mountainous regions, or along the ridges of mountains, or around the watersheds of rivers as starting points. Straight lines are also generally acceptable, but too many straight borders just looks boring.

If I were you I'd find a different basemap, too. That one's too large to fit entirely on a computer screen, and the borders are thick and are low quality as a result.
I'm in agreement with Krall here.
 
They look so horrible because they're just random curves; they're not logical or detailed. Try drawing borders roughly along where rivers are, or around mountainous regions, or along the ridges of mountains, or around the watersheds of rivers as starting points. Straight lines are also generally acceptable, but too many straight borders just looks boring.

If I were you I'd find a different basemap, too. That one's too large to fit entirely on a computer screen, and the borders are thick and are low quality as a result.
I've found that that basemap can look very good when scaled down 50%.
 
Inspired by the map by the Doctor on pg. 324 showing an interpretation of Krapman’s “Caliphate” world: a slightly less insane one.

(Apologies to Sarah Palin and John McCain fans. But apocalyptic Christians with launch codes scare me).

70 years since President McCain’s invasion of Iran.

70 years since Second Iraqi Revolt.

69 years since the Siege of Quom

68 years since the Islamicist revolt in Pakistan.

68 years since the First Retaliation (using a liquid-gas filled tanker in San Francisco harbor).

68 years since the reinstatement of the draft.

67 years since President McCain’s re-election on the “they’ll kill us all if you don’t” platform.

65 years since Petraeus’s declaration of “light at the end of the tunnel” in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan.

65 years since the Second Retaliation vs. NY (using a small nuke gone missing from Pakistan) and President McCain’s heart attack.

65 years since the beginning of anti-Muslim pogroms in the US.

64 years since the beginning of “special security measures” in Europe vs. possible Islamic threats.

64 years since extension of military action to Pakistan, Hamas areas of Lebanon.

64 years since the Chinese finally get entirely fed up with N. Korea.

63 years since Islamicist revolt in Egypt.

63 years since The Last Stand in Islamabad

63 years since election of President Palin on the “Ditto” platform.

63 years since beginning of spread of Pakistan war to Indian border regions.

62 years since the largest scale curtailment of civil liberties since the Bush administration.

62 years since the extension of the war to Egypt, with Israeli help.

62 years since the testing of the first fusion reaction design to produce more power than it took in.

61 years since the Third Retaliation vs. Los Angeles, Washington, London, and Tel Aviv (nobody is entirely sure where the bombs came from).

61 years since President Palin’s and Netanyahu’s enactment of the “kill them all and let God sort it out.”

61 years since mass Muslim riots, unrest in Europe lead to the establishment of a joint policy of Emergency Control in France, Germany, the Netherlands. Mass violence against Muslims (and unfortunately similar-looking Sikhs and Hindus) in the UK.

60 years since the Renewed Caliphate was founded in a hotel half filled with mud and perfumed by the smell of thirty million corpses downriver from the former Aswan dam.

60 years since (in a more positive note) the success of the People Power Revolution and the restoration of genuine democracy in South Africa.

59 years since President Palin was assassinated by her own secret service guards after her stated intention of “speeding the rapture” by inflicting a first strike on Islamicist “ally” Russia.

59 years since the Great Expulsion of the Israeli Muslims and the Palestinians.

58 years since the beginning of the Boykin military interregnum and the temporary suspension of elections.

58 years after Harun Abdul-Wadud, in the midst of a speech at a forbidden public protest, unfortunately shouted “they’re going to kill us all!” just before a nervous special forces member who had just heard the “kill” bit shot him through the head.

58 years since the start of the New Wars of Religion in Europe.

57 years since the Turks invite visitors to their shiny new atomic bomb factory, and note how nice it is that none of their old allies had been silly enough to screw with _them_.

56 years since the Russian snaffling of the Ukraine.

55 years since the formation of the National Unity Party and the banning of the former Green, Socialist, Libertarian, Democratic, and Republican parties.

55 years since Japanese bioengineers win the Nobel Prize (awarded in Iceland for security reasons) for the development of “Omni-weed”, the bioengineered foodstuff that grows pretty anywhere with very little water or actual cultivation. Although it tastes like crap, it is later estimated to have saved close to a billion people from global-warming based famine.

54 years since the return to “free” elections in the US.

52 years since first official US complaint re Canada giving refuge to enemies of the US government (re, Americans who had made tracks north since Palin’s election).

49 years since the end of the New Wars of Religion and the Partition.

48 years since the US invasion of Canada.

47 years since the tanks refused to roll this time and the authority of the Chinese communist party collapsed.

46 years since the establishment of the New Chinese Republic

43 years since the development of gene-targeted drugs which will make AIDS a thing of the past within a generation.

41 years since the coming to power of the Orthodox Party of National Salvation in Russia.

40 years since analysis of the human genome gets to the point where gene therapy can induce minor physical modifications without unexpected results like several dozen fingers. Such procedures are rapidly banned outside of Japan, China, Sweden, and Brazil, where the hunt for the boob gene immediately goes into overdrive.

38 years since the reunion of Taiwan and China proper.

35 years since Palestinian forces defend Mecca and Medina from invading Caliphate forces.

30 years since the establishment of the Holy Order in Russia and the elimination of further elections as unnecessary.

29 years since the final breakdown of the EC and the formation of a new Latin-South American “Catholic axis”.

29 years since the French object strenuously to the implications of that term, noting that unlike the US, they still have more than one party to vote for, and if they favor Catholic immigrants, so what of it?

27 years since increasingly pushy Chinese nationalism leads to the founding of the Confederacy of Indochine.

22 years since the defeat of Caliphate forces at the battle of Nairobi by South African and Kenyan forces.

21 years since the end of the Period of Conquest for the Caliphate, beginning of the era of Consolidation.

19 years since the Japanese robots, androids, and very old people, along with illegal immigrants and the cat-girl fetishist genemods (the two segments of the Japanese population actually naturally reproducing themselves) decide to ally with Russia rather than becoming a US or Chinese satellite.

11 years since the Caliph in his daily message to the people suggests that perhaps, maybe, Allah wouldn’t be entirely displeased if the whole “defeat the infidels by out breeding them” thing might be phased out: after all, they had recouped the losses from the Abomination of Desolation over 30 years ago, and the Caliphate was really getting a bit crowded.

2 years since President Quinby was assassinated for suggesting “Isn’t it time we started returning to some of the fundamental principles of our Founding Fathers? Such as the avoidance of foreign entanglements, and boy, aren’t things a mess in Occupied Mexico lately?”

Unrest continues.

(yes, I know, Faeelin. I am, in fact, on medication for anxiety disorders - just imagine what I’d be writing if I weren’t…)

Bruce
 
And here's the map.

Bruce

CaliphateInProgresss.png
 
The World, 1994

What? US occupied Nicaragua, Honduras, and Haiti? Ultra-Tannu-Tuva? A Papal Poland right next to the USSR? Imperial-Russia-In-Exile-In-Egypt? Some Portugal looking thing in Libya? Some British colonies still haven't gained at least partial independence? Is that some sort of US puppet in Somalia? Has Sweden or the EU colonized Eritrea?

Not to mention the almost complete lack of butterflies?

What is going on here?
 

Thande

Donor
What? US occupied Nicaragua, Honduras, and Haiti? Ultra-Tannu-Tuva? A Papal Poland right next to the USSR? Imperial-Russia-In-Exile-In-Egypt? Some Portugal looking thing in Libya? Some British colonies still haven't gained at least partial independence? Is that some sort of US puppet in Somalia? Has Sweden or the EU colonized Eritrea?

Not to mention the almost complete lack of butterflies?

What is going on here?

I don't think he's using the pure UCS, as Ireland-in-Exile-in-Libya seems rather unlikely ;)
 
And here's the map.

Bruce
That is very unnerving. Probably what Caliphate would have looked like had it been written by President Chester A Arthur (the disturbed mind behind the genius TL For All Time).

Very well done though Bruce. I like the countdown style used to convey the timeline. Makes it more depressing as things get progressively worse and worse.
 

Krall

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The World, 1994

1. Overused basemap.

2. Messy borders (especcially in China).

3. Not many significant changes from OTL, and those changes that are there we've seen before, or make little sense.

4. Vertical borders should be curved on maps wit this projection (I'm looking at you, CSA).

5. Non-UCS colours are confusing, and should be explained.

6. No explanation means that people have no real idea what's going on in the world, why any changes of happened, what some of the colours are meant to mean etc., making me care very little about the map and the world it represents.

In conclusion: :mad:.
 

Thande

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A basic map I made for two reasons -

1. Wanted to explore the idea of Communist Eastern Europe sticking around while Russia goes capitalist/democratic;

2. Wanted to see if I could cram the full official names of all the countries in.

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A basic map I made for two reasons -

1. Wanted to explore the idea of Communist Eastern Europe sticking around while Russia goes capitalist/democratic;

2. Wanted to see if I could cram the full official names of all the countries in.

A lordly effort, sir, and interesting ideas - the USSR restricted to Belarus/Baltics? Multiple European economic blocs?

Libyan Repopulic?

I'd also change it to United Arab Republics, based on this being the truth, unless this is an EdTian "OTL is weird and irrational" thing.
 
A basic map I made for two reasons -

1. Wanted to explore the idea of Communist Eastern Europe sticking around while Russia goes capitalist/democratic;

2. Wanted to see if I could cram the full official names of all the countries in.
What is a "repopulic?" Some Arabic word I've never heard of? A TTL portmanteau of "popular" and "republic?" :D
Other than that, a good map of an interesting concept.

EDIT: Damn! I see Nek beat me to the punch.
 

Thande

Donor
A lordly effort, sir, and interesting ideas - the USSR restricted to Belarus/Baltics? Multiple European economic blocs?

Libyan Repopulic?

I'd also change it to United Arab Republics, based on this being the truth, unless this is an EdTian "OTL is weird and irrational" thing.

What is a "repopulic?" Some Arabic word I've never heard of? :D
Other than that, a good map of an interesting concept.

EDIT: Damn! I see Nek beat me to the punch.

"Repopulic" is my attempt to translate "Jamahiriya", Gadaffi's form of government. Basically, Jumhuriya is Arabic for "republic" (literally 'public-rule'), and Gadaffi pluralised jumhur- to jamahir-, meaning "the masses". It's hard to translate that into English (you can't say "Republics of Libya", and People's Republic has too many connotations of other things) so "Repopulic" was what I managed, incorporating 'popular/populace'.

As for the UAR, yes it was singular in OTL despite there never being any serious attempt to unite its members politically. I suppose you could say the same about the EU, given that "union" in politics usually implies the whole thing is politically united - again it speaks of aspiration rather than reality.
 
I don't like the idea of a divided Austria, just seems unethical. I wonder how those Communist states are fairing with Moscow calling the shots.
 
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