List of monarchs III

Ok, this line.....
and of Aquitaine and Gallicia, where it was in name only, as _________ and ____________ were unable to take power from the forces loyal to Prince Aramir.
.....made me think that the empire had Gallicia as well, but how will they place governors there if they don't have it?
 
What we can say is that Gallicia was not part of the Empire, but Brutus IV was trying to make it part of the Empire, after all he was going to war with Aramir who was supported by Gallicia.
 
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What If ... Henry III, King of Navarre, dies in Early 1589 ...

Kings of France

Henry III, r. 1574 to 1589 (House of Valois-Angouleme)
Henry IV, r. 1589 to 1646 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (1)


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(1) After the death of the King of Navarre, Henry IV became heir to the throne of France (Henry III having disinherited the Archbishop of Rouen upon the death of the King of Navarre, the Archbishop would die shortly after, before any attempt to oust the child King could be formulated) at the age of one whilst the throne of Navarre passed to Henry of Navarre's sister, Catherine II. Catherine II would die in 1604, to be succeeded by Henri de Rohan as Henri IV of Navarre, until 1638.

Henry IV of France would marry Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of James VI and I of England in 1613 when she was 17 and Henry was 25. The couple would have 13 children from 1614 to 1632, out of which 8 were boys. Only 4 of these children predeceased their father (compared to 6 who predeceased their mother). Despite his father and cousin having been lead Huegenot figures, Pope Clement insisted that the young King be raised as a devout Roman Catholic which avoided the War of Religion that had been threatened when Henry III of Navarre had been heir.

Until 1614 (for 24 years), the Premiere Prince Du Sang was the Kings uncle, the Prince of Conti (who also acted as Regent until 1606), and subsequently his ten year old cousin, Louis. Henry would later raise the countship to a dukedom upon Louis' marriage.

Henry would die in 1646 in Paris, surrounded by his children and grandchildren, to be succeeded by his (relation) , (name/title)




The House of Bourbon-Conde:

Charles de Bourbon, Duke of Vendome, b. 1489, d. 1537
a) Antoine, King of Navarre, b. 1518, r. 1537 to 1562​
1) Henri III, King of Navarre, b. 1553, r. 1572 to 1589​
2) Catherine II, Queen of Navarre, b. 1559, r. 1589 to 1604​
b) Louis, Prince of Conde, b. 1530, d. 1569​
1) Henri I, Prince of Conde, b. 1552, d. 1588​
a) Henry IV of France, b. 1588, r. 1589 to 1646, m. Elizabeth Stuart (1596 to 1662)​
2) Francois, Prince of Conti, b. 1558, d. 1614​
3) Charles, Count of Soissons, b. 1566, d. 1612​
a) Louis, Count/Duke of Soissons, b. 1604, d. 1641​
The House of Albret/Rohan:

John III, King of Navarre, b. 1469, r. 1484 to 1516
1) Henri II, King of Navarre, b. 1503, r. 1516 to 1555​
a) Jeanne III, Queen of Navarre, b. 1528, r. 1555 to 1572​
1) Henri III, King of Navarre, b. 1553, r. 1572 to 1589​
2) Catherine II, Queen of Navarre, b. 1559, r. 1589 to 1604​
2) Isabella of Navarre, b. 1512, d. 1555​
a) Rene II, Viscount Rohan, b. 1550, d. 1586​
1) Henri IV, King of Navarre, b. 1479, r. 1604 to 1638​
 
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What If ... Henry III, King of Navarre, dies in Early 1589 ...

Kings of France

Henry III, r. 1574 to 1589 (House of Valois-Angouleme)
Henry IV, r. 1589 to 1646 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (1)
Rene , r. 1646 to 1655 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (2)


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(1) After the death of the King of Navarre, Henry IV became heir to the throne of France (Henry III having disinherited the Archbishop of Rouen upon the death of the King of Navarre, the Archbishop would die shortly after, before any attempt to oust the child King could be formulated) at the age of one whilst the throne of Navarre passed to Henry of Navarre's sister, Catherine II. Catherine II would die in 1604, to be succeeded by Henri de Rohan as Henri IV of Navarre, until 1638.

Henry IV of France would marry Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of James VI and I of England in 1613 when she was 17 and Henry was 25. The couple would have 13 children from 1614 to 1632, out of which 8 were boys. Only 4 of these children predeceased their father (compared to 6 who predeceased their mother). Despite his father and cousin having been lead Huegenot figures, Pope Clement insisted that the young King be raised as a devout Roman Catholic which avoided the War of Religion that had been threatened when Henry III of Navarre had been heir.

Until 1614 (for 24 years), the Premiere Prince Du Sang was the Kings uncle, the Prince of Conti (who also acted as Regent until 1606), and briefly his ten year old cousin, Louis. Henry would later raise the countship to a dukedom upon Louis' marriage.

Henry would die in 1646 in Paris, surrounded by his children and grandchildren, to be succeeded by his older brother , Rene I

(2) Rene was never meant to be King. As the legitimate heir, his nephew was still to young to rule Rene was named Regent until His Highness could ascend to the throne. However Rene abused his position to make himself the real power behind the throne ruling in all but name. His rule was fraught with challenges from backers of the heir who grew into a seemingly promising ruler, yet was continuously shut out of decision making by Rene. As a devoted Catholic Rene encouraged repression against the French Huguenots which led to the bloody Nevers Revolt in 1652. While the revolt was ultimately destroyed the Regents authority was shaken and he had to rely increasingly on various local landowners to shore up support giving them large concessions. These concessions, known to history as the Renian Concessions, would haunt his successors. In 1655 Rene would finally outmaneuver the Heir's supporters in court and force him to flee to Savoy. He was crowned King Rene I of France soon after to little fanfare and much anger among the nobility. When offers of increased privileges didn't satisfy their anger Rene resorted to military action. The resulting years of intermittent conflict saw the balance of power see-saw between the King and the nobility who largely supported the legitimate heir. In the end however Rene, never the master military strategist was killed in battle during the Battle of Calais. The crown was left to his _______, ________
 
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by his brother , Rene I

(2) Rene was never meant to be King. As the legitimate heir _____ was still to young to rule Rene was named Regent until (His/Her) Highness could ascend to the throne. However Rene abused his position to make himself the real power behind the throne ruling in all but name. His rule was fraught with challenges from backers of the heir as who grew into a seemingly promising ruler, yet was continuously shut out of decision making by Rene. As a devoted Catholic Rene encouraged repression against the French Huguenots which led to the bloody Nevers Revolt in 1652. While the revolt was ultimately destroyed the Regents authority was shaken and he had to rely increasingly on various local landowners to shore up support giving them large concessions. These concessions, known to history as the Renian Concessions, would haunt his successors. In 1655 Rene would finally outmaneuver the Heir's supporters in court and force _____ to flee to Savoy. He was crowned King Rene I of France soon after to little fanfare and much anger among the nobility. When offers of increased privileges didn't satisfy their anger Rene resorted to military action. The resulting years of intermittent conflict saw the balance of power see-saw between the King and the nobility who largely supported the legitimate heir. In the end however Rene, never the master military strategist was killed in battle during the Battle of Calais. The crown was left to his _______, ________

This doesn't match with several parts of my initial post ...

Henry IV was born briefly before his father died, so unlikely he would have a younger sibling who could take the throne. The premiere prince du sang was the Prince of Conti and then the Count/Duke of Soissons, which would not have been the case if Henry IV had a younger brother.

Henry IV and Elizabeth had 13 children, of which 8 were male and of which only 4 predeceased their father. France practised male line succession, and even if all of the children that predeceased their father were male, that still leaves 4 sons to survive Henry IV - also, the youngest child was born in 1632, so the eldest surviving son (presuming one child per year, and presuming the surviving sons were the youngest of the 13 children) was at least 18 at the point of his father's death, and thus would not have required a Regent.

Even an elder son predeceasing Henry IV and leaving a male grandchild as heir would have seen at least one uncle of majority age to act as Regent, rather than Rene.

As a suggestion, simply make Rene an elder son of Henry IV (Duke of Orleans, Vendome, Burgundy, Berry or Anjou). He is then regent for a nephew, the son of the Dauphin who predeceased Henry IV?
 
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This doesn't match with several parts of my initial post ...

Henry IV was born briefly before his father died, so unlikely he would have a younger sibling who could take the throne. The premiere prince du sang was the Prince of Conti and then the Count/Duke of Soissons, which would not have been the case if Henry IV had a younger brother.

Henry IV and Elizabeth had 13 children, of which 8 were male and of which only 4 predeceased their father. France practised male line succession, and even if all of the children that predeceased their father were male, that still leaves 4 sons to survive Henry IV - also, the youngest child was born in 1632, so the eldest surviving son (presuming one child per year, and presuming the surviving sons were the youngest of the 13 children) was at least 18 at the point of his father's death, and thus would not have required a Regent.

Even an elder son predeceasing Henry IV and leaving a male grandchild as heir would have seen at least one uncle of majority age to act as Regent, rather than Rene.

As a suggestion, simply make Rene an elder son of Henry IV (Duke of Orleans, Vendome, Burgundy, Berry or Anjou). He is then regent for a nephew, the son of the Dauphin who predeceased Henry IV?
Ah, okay. Yeah I got a bit confused on the family tree I guess.
 
What If ... Henry III, King of Navarre, dies in Early 1589 ...

Kings of France

Henry III, r. 1574 to 1589 (House of Valois-Angouleme)
Henry IV, r. 1589 to 1646 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (1)
Henry V, r. 1647 to 1655 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (3)
Rene "The Usurper", r. (1646 to) 1655 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (2)
Henry V, r. 1655 to 1678 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (3)


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(1) After the death of the King of Navarre, Henry IV became heir to the throne of France (Henry III having disinherited the Archbishop of Rouen upon the death of the King of Navarre, the Archbishop would die shortly after, before any attempt to oust the child King could be formulated) at the age of one whilst the throne of Navarre passed to Henry of Navarre's sister, Catherine II. Catherine II would die in 1604, to be succeeded by Henri de Rohan as Henri IV of Navarre, until 1638.

Henry IV of France would marry Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of James VI and I of England in 1613 when she was 17 and Henry was 25. The couple would have 13 children from 1614 to 1632, out of which 8 were boys. Only 4 of these children predeceased their father (compared to 6 who predeceased their mother). Despite his father and cousin having been lead Huegenot figures, Pope Clement insisted that the young King be raised as a devout Roman Catholic which avoided the War of Religion that had been threatened when Henry III of Navarre had been heir.

Until 1614 (for 24 years), the Premiere Prince Du Sang was the Kings uncle, the Prince of Conti (who also acted as Regent until 1606), and subsequently his ten year old cousin, Louis. Henry would later raise the countship to a dukedom upon Louis' marriage.

Henry would die in 1646 in Paris, surrounded by his children and grandchildren, to be succeeded by his son , Rene I

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(2) Rene was never meant to be King. As the legitimate heir, his nephew was still to young to rule Rene was named Regent until His Highness could ascend to the throne. However Rene abused his position to make himself the real power behind the throne ruling in all but name. His rule was fraught with challenges from backers of the heir who grew into a seemingly promising ruler, yet was continuously shut out of decision making by Rene. As a devoted Catholic Rene encouraged repression against the French Huguenots which led to the bloody Nevers Revolt in 1652. While the revolt was ultimately destroyed the Regents authority was shaken and he had to rely increasingly on various local landowners to shore up support giving them large concessions. These concessions, known to history as the Renian Concessions, would haunt his successors. In 1655 Rene would finally outmaneuver the Heir's supporters in court and force him to flee to Savoy. He was crowned King Rene I of France soon after to little fanfare and much anger among the nobility. When offers of increased privileges didn't satisfy their anger Rene resorted to military action. The resulting years of intermittent conflict saw the balance of power see-saw between the King and the nobility who largely supported the legitimate heir. In the end however Rene, never the master military strategist was killed in battle during the Battle of Calais. The crown was left to his nephew, Henry

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(3) Henry V reign had effectively begun in 1646 with the death of his grandfather, following the death of his father, Le Grand Dauphin, three years earlier. Aged only 6 at the point of his succession, his uncle, the Duke of Vendome, had taken control of court, sideload Henry and eventually taken the throne himself. In 1655, with the young King nearly of age, he fled to Savoy where he regrouped with the Duke of Soissons, and two of his other uncles, the Dukes of Orleans and Anjou, and marshalled an army that defeated the royal forces of Rene The Usurper. By Christmas of 1655, Henry V had regained his rightful place on the throne and was recrowned in a ceremony witnessed by all three of his surviving uncles, including the Duke of Orleans who had been made Regent for the next 3 year's until Henry reached 18.

He would subsequently marry Jeanne of Savoy in 1663, daughter of Philibert, Duke of Savoy, to further cement the friendship and alliance after sheltering him in 1655. The marriage would not be as fruitful as that of his grandfather, providing only three children, of whom two were daughters, named Jeanne and Christine.

After the Reneian Concessions had fielded power to the local landowners, much of Henry's reign was spent attempting to appease them. Whilst Henry V was not an adherent to the concept of the divine right of kings, having been somewhat humbled in the fight for his crown, he did believe that a strong centralised seat of government was the best option for France. Therefore, Henry considered the creation of a Parliament Francais, inspired by the English model of his Stuart relations, was the avenue to explore. Thus the remains of his reign were spent ingratiating himself with the nobility that would sit within the Parliament, and the composition would impact numerous national military and agricultural decisions that were made from 1670 to 1678.

Jeanne, Madame Royale, his eldest child, would only be 14 when her father passed away in 1678 of a heart attack. This meant that the throne passed to ......, his ......



The House of Bourbon-Conde:

Louis, Prince of Conde, b. 1530, d. 1569
1) Henri I, Prince of Conde, b. 1552, d. 1588​
a) Henry IV of France, b. 1588, r. 1589 to 1646, m. Elizabeth Stuart (1596 to 1662)​
1) Henry, Dauphin of France, b. 1616, d. 1643​
a) Henry V of France, prev. Duke of Burgundy, b. 1640, r 1646 to 1655, then 1655 to 1678, m. Jeanne of Savoy (1645 to 1703)​
1) Jeanne of France, Madame Royale, b. 1664​
2) Son​
3) Christine of France​
2) Rene I of France, prev. Duke of Vendome, b. 1618, r. 1655​
3) Francis, Duke of Orleans, b. 1621, Regent 1655 to 1658, d. 1705​
4) Robert, Duke of Anjou​
5) Charles, Duke of Berry​
2) Francois, Prince of Conti, b. 1558, d. 1614​
3) Charles, Count of Soissons, b. 1566, d. 1612​
a) Louis, Count/Duke of Soissons, b. 1604, d. 1641​
1) Louis II, Duke of Soissons, b. 1630, d. 1690​
 
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*restarts work*

Thx for the heads up!

You're welcome.

@wwbgdiaslt didn't need to wait 72 hours to start his French list in the first place. Let's all remember that!

But we are supposed to only have two, unless one splits into two in the same continuity, which is best done in the same posts. That's where the 72 hour or ending a list rule comes in.
 
You're welcome.

@wwbgdiaslt didn't need to wait 72 hours to start his French list in the first place. Let's all remember that!

But we are supposed to only have two, unless one splits into two in the same continuity, which is best done in the same posts. That's where the 72 hour or ending a list rule comes in.

Oh yes, just seemed like it had fizzled out after no posts for 72 hours and now we've got the thread back on track, didn't want it to go on hiatus like it did earlier this year :)
 
What If ... Henry III, King of Navarre, dies in Early 1589 ...

Kings of France
Henry III, r. 1574 to 1589 (House of Valois-Angouleme)
Henry IV, r. 1589 to 1646 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (1)
Henry V, r. 1647 to 1655 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (3)
Rene "The Usurper", r. (1646 to) 1655 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (2)
Henry V, r. 1655 to 1678 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (3)
Francis III, r. 1678 to 1722 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (4)

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(1) After the death of the King of Navarre, Henry IV became heir to the throne of France (Henry III having disinherited the Archbishop of Rouen upon the death of the King of Navarre, the Archbishop would die shortly after, before any attempt to oust the child King could be formulated) at the age of one whilst the throne of Navarre passed to Henry of Navarre's sister, Catherine II. Catherine II would die in 1604, to be succeeded by Henri de Rohan as Henri IV of Navarre, until 1638.

Henry IV of France would marry Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of James VI and I of England in 1613 when she was 17 and Henry was 25. The couple would have 13 children from 1614 to 1632, out of which 8 were boys. Only 4 of these children predeceased their father (compared to 6 who predeceased their mother). Despite his father and cousin having been lead Huegenot figures, Pope Clement insisted that the young King be raised as a devout Roman Catholic which avoided the War of Religion that had been threatened when Henry III of Navarre had been heir.

Until 1614 (for 24 years), the Premiere Prince Du Sang was the Kings uncle, the Prince of Conti (who also acted as Regent until 1606), and subsequently his ten year old cousin, Louis. Henry would later raise the countship to a dukedom upon Louis' marriage.

Henry would die in 1646 in Paris, surrounded by his children and grandchildren, to be succeeded by his son , Rene I

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(2) Rene was never meant to be King. As the legitimate heir, his nephew was still to young to rule Rene was named Regent until His Highness could ascend to the throne. However Rene abused his position to make himself the real power behind the throne ruling in all but name. His rule was fraught with challenges from backers of the heir who grew into a seemingly promising ruler, yet was continuously shut out of decision making by Rene. As a devoted Catholic Rene encouraged repression against the French Huguenots which led to the bloody Nevers Revolt in 1652. While the revolt was ultimately destroyed the Regents authority was shaken and he had to rely increasingly on various local landowners to shore up support giving them large concessions. These concessions, known to history as the Renian Concessions, would haunt his successors. In 1655 Rene would finally outmaneuver the Heir's supporters in court and force him to flee to Savoy. He was crowned King Rene I of France soon after to little fanfare and much anger among the nobility. When offers of increased privileges didn't satisfy their anger Rene resorted to military action. The resulting years of intermittent conflict saw the balance of power see-saw between the King and the nobility who largely supported the legitimate heir. In the end however Rene, never the master military strategist was killed in battle during the Battle of Calais. The crown was left to his nephew, Henry

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(3) Henry V reign had effectively begun in 1646 with the death of his grandfather, following the death of his father, Le Grand Dauphin, three years earlier. Aged only 6 at the point of his succession, his uncle, the Duke of Vendome, had taken control of court, sideload Henry and eventually taken the throne himself. In 1655, with the young King nearly of age, he fled to Savoy where he regrouped with the Duke of Soissons, and two of his other uncles, the Dukes of Orleans and Anjou, and marshalled an army that defeated the royal forces of Rene The Usurper. By Christmas of 1655, Henry V had regained his rightful place on the throne and was recrowned in a ceremony witnessed by all three of his surviving uncles, including the Duke of Orleans who had been made Regent for the next 3 year's until Henry reached 18.

He would subsequently marry Jeanne of Savoy in 1663, daughter of Philibert, Duke of Savoy, to further cement the friendship and alliance after sheltering him in 1655. The marriage would not be as fruitful as that of his grandfather, providing only three children, of whom two were daughters, named Jeanne and Christine.

After the Reneian Concessions had fielded power to the local landowners, much of Henry's reign was spent attempting to appease them. Whilst Henry V was not an adherent to the concept of the divine right of kings, having been somewhat humbled in the fight for his crown, he did believe that a strong centralised seat of government was the best option for France. Therefore, Henry considered the creation of a Parliament Francais, inspired by the English model of his Stuart relations, was the avenue to explore. Thus the remains of his reign were spent ingratiating himself with the nobility that would sit within the Parliament, and the composition would impact numerous national military and agricultural decisions that were made from 1670 to 1678.

Jeanne, Madame Royale, his eldest child, would only be 14 when her father passed away in 1678 of a heart attack. This meant that the throne passed to Dauphin Francis, his 12 year old son.

(4) Francis III was born on 4th October 1665, Feast of St Francis of Assisi, being named in honour of the saint and his great-uncle Francis, Duke of Orleans, who was also his god father, along with King Charles II of England. His god mothers were Henrietta, Duchess of Orléans (Wife of Francis and sister of Charles II) and Mariana of Austria, Queen Regent of Spain (to support a special relationship between Spain and Holy Roman Empire)

The first 12 years of Francis’s life was happy with his parents being very involved with their children’s upbringings. He was initially under the care of royal governesses, among them being Claire, Duchess of Berry and Maria, wife ofMarshal Jean d'Estrées, Count of Estrées (1624–1707).

When Francis reached the age of seven, he was removed from the care of women and placed in the society of men. He received Francis, Duke of Orleans as his governor and was tutored by Hardouin de Péréfixe de Beaumont, Archbishop of Paris.

It was during a tutorial about French history, that Dauphin Francis received the news of his future, with his father dying of a heart attack.

Francis, Duke of Orleans, quickly transported his great-nephew to Reims Cathedral, where Charles-Maurice Le Tellier, Archbishop of Reims, crowned the 12 year old king, with 57 year old Duke, declared himself regent for the second time, but starting the new tradition of declaring his support to the king, kneeling in front of his king saying:
I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the King of France against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Kingthat I take this obligation freely. So help me God.

For the next five years, known commonly as the “Reign of two Francises” the elder Francis would include the younger on all political matters, teaching the way of ruling as they went along.

During his sixteenth birthday, a grand party was held, in his honour. The party was also used as a match making, with nobilities of all ranks, from Viscomte to Emperors, such as Maria Antonia of Austria, daughter of Emperor Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor, Anne Marie d'Orléans, a cousin as the daughter of Francis, Duke of Orléans and of Henrietta of England.

His eyes through the night were drawn to an unlikely match, King Charles II of England had relished in being invited to a party bringing along with him, his niece, Her Highness The Lady Anne of York, second daughter of the Duke of York, and his first wife, Anne Hyde.

King Charles II was over the moon that his niece was picked as a bride for the King of France. The wedding was planned for two years later when both bride and groom turned 18, allowing the wedding to coinciding with his full coronation.

The pair were happily married, however their marriage was plagued by miscarriages and stillborns, with only 5 of the 17 pregnancies seeing the babies born healthy, it is said Francis’s love grew for his wife with each pregnancy and he shared her grief, pushing away all attempts at mistresses coming on to him.

On 6 February 1685, Charles II died without legitimate issue, leading to Anne’s father, James to inherited the thrones of England, Ireland and Scotland.
On 10 June 1688, James saw the birth of a son and heir, Prince James Francis Edward, with Francis being his middle namesake as well as his brother-in-law’s Godfather.
French spies in England, found evidence that some members of the English court were trying to take away the Divine Right of Prince James of Wales, and invite his older sister, Anglican Mary and her Protestant husband, William of Orange.

In response, Francis requested the French navy to keep an eye on the Dutch port of Hellevoetsluis, by early October, news of nearly 500 ships being organised reached France and so the great Battle of the English Channel began with Anglo-French navy defeating the Dutch fleet, killing William of Orange.

This next eight years, saw a new religious war engulf Europe, between Catholics and Protestants. The alliance between France and England grew with Francis and his father-in-law, arranging a trade agreement between the neighbouring nations, assisting each other in putting down Protestant protest as well as blockading thechannel from enemy nations.

In 1701, when news of King James II’s death reached France, Francis was publicly more affected than his wife, the daughter. Francis and Anne attended the coronation of her brother King James III.

For the last 21 years of his reign Francis saw the expansion of land in the colonies including Nova Frankia (OT Louisiana) assist his country’s economy.
However is death at the age of 57, came following a sickness he hid from the public, many modern doctors to be cancer, with a dramatic weight loss being the hardest to hide. He was succeeded by ________, his __________.

The House of Bourbon-Conde

Louis, Prince of Conde, b. 1530, d. 1569
1) Henri I, Prince of Conde, b. 1552, d. 1588​
a) Henry IV of France, b. 1588, r. 1589 to 1646, m. Elizabeth Stuart (1596 to 1662)​
1) Henry, Dauphin of France, b. 1616, d. 1643​
a) Henry V of France, prev. Duke of Burgundy, b. 1640, r 1646 to 1655, then 1655 to 1678, m. Jeanne of Savoy (1645 to 1703)​
1) Jeanne of France, Madame Royale, b. 1664​
2) Francis III of France b. 1665, r. 1678 to 1722 m. 168, Anne of England (1665–1714)​
1) Stillborn (1684)​
2) Jeanne b. 1685​
3) Anne b. 1686​
4) Miscarriage (1687)​
5) Stillborn son (1687)​
6) Miscarriage (1688)​
7) Son b. 1689​
8) Maria b. 1690​
9) Son b. 1692​
10) Stillborn daughter (1693)​
11) Stillborn son (1694)​
12) Miscarried ( 1696​
13) Miscarriage (1696)​
14) Miscarriage (1697)​
15) Miscarriage (1697)​
16) Stillborn son (1698)​
17) Stillborn son (1700)​
3) Christine of France​
2) Rene I of France, prev. Duke of Vendome, b. 1618, r. 1655​
3) Francis, Duke of Orleans, b. 1621, Regent 1655 to 1658, then 1678 to 1683, d. 1705 m. Henrietta of England (1644–1670)​
4) Robert, Duke of Anjou​
5) Charles, Duke of Berry b. 1625 m. Claire Clémence de Maillé (1628-1694)​
2) Francois, Prince of Conti, b. 1558, d. 1614​
3) Charles, Count of Soissons, b. 1566, d. 1612​
a) Louis, Count/Duke of Soissons, b. 1604, d. 1641​
1) Louis II, Duke of Soissons, b. 1630, d. 1690​
 
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What If ... Henry III, King of Navarre, dies in Early 1589 ...

Kings of France
Henry III, r. 1574 to 1589 (House of Valois-Angouleme)
Henry IV, r. 1589 to 1646 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (1)
Henry V, r. 1647 to 1655 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (3)
Rene "The Usurper", r. (1646 to) 1655 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (2)
Henry V, r. 1655 to 1678 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (3)
Francis III, r. 1678 to 1722 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (4)
Pierre I, r. 1722 to 1747 (House of Bourbon-Conde) (5)


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(1) After the death of the King of Navarre, Henry IV became heir to the throne of France (Henry III having disinherited the Archbishop of Rouen upon the death of the King of Navarre, the Archbishop would die shortly after, before any attempt to oust the child King could be formulated) at the age of one whilst the throne of Navarre passed to Henry of Navarre's sister, Catherine II. Catherine II would die in 1604, to be succeeded by Henri de Rohan as Henri IV of Navarre, until 1638.

Henry IV of France would marry Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of James VI and I of England in 1613 when she was 17 and Henry was 25. The couple would have 13 children from 1614 to 1632, out of which 8 were boys. Only 4 of these children predeceased their father (compared to 6 who predeceased their mother). Despite his father and cousin having been lead Huegenot figures, Pope Clement insisted that the young King be raised as a devout Roman Catholic which avoided the War of Religion that had been threatened when Henry III of Navarre had been heir.

Until 1614 (for 24 years), the Premiere Prince Du Sang was the Kings uncle, the Prince of Conti (who also acted as Regent until 1606), and subsequently his ten year old cousin, Louis. Henry would later raise the countship to a dukedom upon Louis' marriage.

Henry would die in 1646 in Paris, surrounded by his children and grandchildren, to be succeeded by his son , Rene I

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(2) Rene was never meant to be King. As the legitimate heir, his nephew was still to young to rule Rene was named Regent until His Highness could ascend to the throne. However Rene abused his position to make himself the real power behind the throne ruling in all but name. His rule was fraught with challenges from backers of the heir who grew into a seemingly promising ruler, yet was continuously shut out of decision making by Rene. As a devoted Catholic Rene encouraged repression against the French Huguenots which led to the bloody Nevers Revolt in 1652. While the revolt was ultimately destroyed the Regents authority was shaken and he had to rely increasingly on various local landowners to shore up support giving them large concessions. These concessions, known to history as the Renian Concessions, would haunt his successors. In 1655 Rene would finally outmaneuver the Heir's supporters in court and force him to flee to Savoy. He was crowned King Rene I of France soon after to little fanfare and much anger among the nobility. When offers of increased privileges didn't satisfy their anger Rene resorted to military action. The resulting years of intermittent conflict saw the balance of power see-saw between the King and the nobility who largely supported the legitimate heir. In the end however Rene, never the master military strategist was killed in battle during the Battle of Calais. The crown was left to his nephew, Henry

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(3) Henry V reign had effectively begun in 1646 with the death of his grandfather, following the death of his father, Le Grand Dauphin, three years earlier. Aged only 6 at the point of his succession, his uncle, the Duke of Vendome, had taken control of court, sideload Henry and eventually taken the throne himself. In 1655, with the young King nearly of age, he fled to Savoy where he regrouped with the Duke of Soissons, and two of his other uncles, the Dukes of Orleans and Anjou, and marshalled an army that defeated the royal forces of Rene The Usurper. By Christmas of 1655, Henry V had regained his rightful place on the throne and was recrowned in a ceremony witnessed by all three of his surviving uncles, including the Duke of Orleans who had been made Regent for the next 3 year's until Henry reached 18.

He would subsequently marry Jeanne of Savoy in 1663, daughter of Philibert, Duke of Savoy, to further cement the friendship and alliance after sheltering him in 1655. The marriage would not be as fruitful as that of his grandfather, providing only three children, of whom two were daughters, named Jeanne and Christine.

After the Reneian Concessions had fielded power to the local landowners, much of Henry's reign was spent attempting to appease them. Whilst Henry V was not an adherent to the concept of the divine right of kings, having been somewhat humbled in the fight for his crown, he did believe that a strong centralised seat of government was the best option for France. Therefore, Henry considered the creation of a Parliament Francais, inspired by the English model of his Stuart relations, was the avenue to explore. Thus the remains of his reign were spent ingratiating himself with the nobility that would sit within the Parliament, and the composition would impact numerous national military and agricultural decisions that were made from 1670 to 1678.

Jeanne, Madame Royale, his eldest child, would only be 14 when her father passed away in 1678 of a heart attack. This meant that the throne passed to Dauphin Francis, his 12 year old son.

(4) Francis III was born on 4th October 1665, Feast of St Francis of Assisi, being named in honour of the saint and his great-uncle Francis, Duke of Orleans, who was also his god father, along with King Charles II of England. His god mothers were Henrietta, Duchess of Orléans (Wife of Francis and sister of Charles II) and Mariana of Austria, Queen Regent of Spain (to support a special relationship between Spain and Holy Roman Empire)

The first 12 years of Francis’s life was happy with his parents being very involved with their children’s upbringings. He was initially under the care of royal governesses, among them being Claire, Duchess of Berry and Maria, wife ofMarshal Jean d'Estrées, Count of Estrées (1624–1707).

When Francis reached the age of seven, he was removed from the care of women and placed in the society of men. He received Francis, Duke of Orleans as his governor and was tutored by Hardouin de Péréfixe de Beaumont, Archbishop of Paris.

It was during a tutorial about French history, that Dauphin Francis received the news of his future, with his father dying of a heart attack.

Francis, Duke of Orleans, quickly transported his great-nephew to Reims Cathedral, where Charles-Maurice Le Tellier, Archbishop of Reims, crowned the 12 year old king, with 57 year old Duke, declared himself regent for the second time, but starting the new tradition of declaring his support to the king, kneeling in front of his king saying:
I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the King of France against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Kingthat I take this obligation freely. So help me God.

For the next five years, known commonly as the “Reign of two Francises” the elder Francis would include the younger on all political matters, teaching the way of ruling as they went along.

During his sixteenth birthday, a grand party was held, in his honour. The party was also used as a match making, with nobilities of all ranks, from Viscomte to Emperors, such as Maria Antonia of Austria, daughter of Emperor Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor, Anne Marie d'Orléans, a cousin as the daughter of Francis, Duke of Orléans and of Henrietta of England.

His eyes through the night were drawn to an unlikely match, King Charles II of England had relished in being invited to a party bringing along with him, his niece, Her Highness The Lady Anne of York, second daughter of the Duke of York, and his first wife, Anne Hyde.

King Charles II was over the moon that his niece was picked as a bride for the King of France. The wedding was planned for two years later when both bride and groom turned 18, allowing the wedding to coinciding with his full coronation.

The pair were happily married, however their marriage was plagued by miscarriages and stillborns, with only 5 of the 17 pregnancies seeing the babies born healthy, it is said Francis’s love grew for his wife with each pregnancy and he shared her grief, pushing away all attempts at mistresses coming on to him.

On 6 February 1685, Charles II died without legitimate issue, leading to Anne’s father, James to inherited the thrones of England, Ireland and Scotland.
On 10 June 1688, James saw the birth of a son and heir, Prince James Francis Edward, with Francis being his middle namesake as well as his brother-in-law’s Godfather.
French spies in England, found evidence that some members of the English court were trying to take away the Divine Right of Prince James of Wales, and invite his older sister, Anglican Mary and her Protestant husband, William of Orange.

In response, Francis requested the French navy to keep an eye on the Dutch port of Hellevoetsluis, by early October, news of nearly 500 ships being organised reached France and so the great Battle of the English Channel began with Anglo-French navy defeating the Dutch fleet, killing William of Orange.

This next eight years, saw a new religious war engulf Europe, between Catholics and Protestants. The alliance between France and England grew with Francis and his father-in-law, arranging a trade agreement between the neighbouring nations, assisting each other in putting down Protestant protest as well as blockading thechannel from enemy nations.

In 1701, when news of King James II’s death reached France, Francis was publicly more affected than his wife, the daughter. Francis and Anne attended the coronation of her brother King James III.

For the last 21 years of his reign Francis saw the expansion of land in the colonies including Nova Frankia (OT Louisiana) assist his country’s economy.
However is death at the age of 57, came following a sickness he hid from the public, many modern doctors to be cancer, with a dramatic weight loss being the hardest to hide. He was succeeded by , his eldest son.

(5) Pierre had been Duke of Normandy at birth whilst his elder brother Francis had been Dauphin. Francis had died in a horse riding accident at 16, celebrating the fact that his bride was on the way to Paris. This meant that 13 year old Pierre was now Dauphin, his brothers betrothal to Magdalena of Soissons, daughter of the Premiere Prince Du Sang, now hinged upon him. Magdalena was 15, only two years older so the pair were not officially married until 1710. They reportedly had a happy marriage and produced several children children who survived infancy.

A big change in France occurred only one year after Pierre had ascended the throne. The Premiere Prince Du Sang, a role which had been held by his wife's family for about 130 years, held by the senior most male line descendant of a monarch who wasn't a son or grandson, shifted to the Dukes of Orleans. Francois of Orleans (son of Henry IV) had been incredibly long lived, but in 1723 his own grandson, Jean Robert, had become Duke and Premiere Prince Du Sang. This meant that any influence the Dukes of Soissons had hoped to wield through the marriage of the Queen and their role had largely evaporated.

Shortly after this transfer of position, Europe fell into the War of the Spanish Infantas. Charles III of Spain (son of Charles II and Maria Anna of Neuberg) died childless after his wife died in childbirth with their son.

Charles VI of the Holy Roman Empire was the male line heir to Spain, but this would increase the Habsburg domains and influence of the HRE to a worrying level. And nobody wanted that.

But the Spanish crown could pass through a female line, and both of Charles III's sisters had male heirs - the eldest Mariana (after her grandmother) was married to James III of England and Scotland which meant that James, the Prince of Wales, was the rightful heir.

However, Louise was the wife of the Duke of Beja, brother of Joao V, King of Portugal, and she pushed for her own son as a compromise candidate to become King of Spain.

And nobody wanted either of those either. Hostilities would continue for a decade, with France backing the English candidate (Pierre and James were cousins, after all), the Holy Roman Empire pushing the Emperor and Portugal pulling together a coalition of minor nations, alongside the Russians.

In the end, the Treaty of the Hague saw Spain partitioned, with the north handed to England, and the south handed to Portugal. Nobody particularly liked it, but a decade of war had made Europe weary of the succession.

The remaining ten years of Pierres reign were peaceful, and the King died in 1747 with his wife at his side, she would survive him by 13 years, seeing his ...... , ....... become King of France.

The House of Bourbon-Conde

Charles de Bourbon, Duke of Vendome, b. 1489, d. 1537
a) Antoine, King of Navarre, b. 1518, r. 1537 to 1562​
1) Henri III, King of Navarre, b. 1553, r. 1572 to 1589​
2) Catherine II, Queen of Navarre, b. 1559, r. 1589 to 1604​
b) Louis, Prince of Conde, b. 1530, d. 1569​
1) Henri I, Prince of Conde, b. 1552, d. 1588​
a) Henry IV of France, b. 1588, r. 1589 to 1646, m. Elizabeth Stuart (1596 to 1662)​
2) Francois, Prince of Conti, b. 1558, d. 1614​
3) Charles, Count of Soissons, b. 1566, d. 1612​
a) Louis, Count/Duke of Soissons, b. 1604, d. 1641​

Henry IV of France, b. 1588, r. 1589 to 1646, m. Elizabeth Stuart (1596 to 1662)
1) Henry, Dauphin of France, b. 1616, d. 1643​
a) Henry V of France, prev. Duke of Burgundy, b. 1640, r 1646 to 1655, then 1655 to 1678, m. Jeanne of Savoy (1645 to 1703)​
1) Jeanne of France, Madame Royale, b. 1664​
2) Francis III of France b. 1665, r. 1678 to 1722 m. 168, Anne of England (1665–1714)​
b) Jeanne b. 1685​
c) Anne b. 1686​
g) Francis, Dauphin of France, b. 1689, d. 1705​
h) Maria b. 1690​
i) Pierre I of France, prev. Duke of Normandy, b. 1692, r. 1722 to 1747, m. 1710, Magdalena of Soissons (1690 to 1760)​
3) Christine of France​
2) Rene I of France, prev. Duke of Vendome, b. 1618, r. 1655​
3) Francis, Duke of Orleans, b. 1621, Regent 1655 to 1658, then 1678 to 1683, d. 1705 m. Henrietta of England (1644–1670)​
a) Francis II, Duke of Orleans, b. 1665, d. 1723​
1) Jean Robert, Duke of Orleans, Premiere Prince Du Sang, b. 1690,​
4) Robert, Duke of Anjou​
5) Charles, Duke of Berry b. 1625 m. Claire Clémence de Maillé (1628-1694)​
 
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